Cycling has no credibility with Cookson giving favourable treatment to his friends. Bring back McQuaid.
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MartinGT said:
the sceptic said:Cycling has no credibility with Cookson giving favourable treatment to his friends. Bring back McQuaid.
Hawkwood said:He gave these two as examples, he also said “The commission doesn’t have powers of subpoena, but there is a court of public opinion here which is really important; those two people and others as well need to bear that in mind if they want to continue to operate in our world, opinion in the world of cycling would be much more favourable towards them if they came forward.”
thehog said:Yes isn't it just lovely! Freudian slip? And very nice of Cookson to speak publicly about Riis and Vino, insinuating doping on the day of their victory and a resurgent Saxo.
the sceptic said:Yes I do have evidence. The horse steroid TUE given to Froome is evidence of the UCI giving favourable treatment to their friends at sky.
Dear Wiggo said:I'm sorry you don't believe in non-conflict of interest miracles.
He's also suggesting Riis and Vinokourov visit the CIRC. No other names are mentioned, curiously. As if there are only 2 ex-dopers in the management side of pro cycling at this time.
No Matt White.
No Vaughters.
No Neil Stephens.
etc
etc
gooner said:He was specifically asked about those two and spoke in general terms after it. But of course don't let that get in the way of throwing mud at the sport once again.
the sceptic said:Cycling has no credibility with Cookson giving favourable treatment to his friends. Bring back McQuaid.
gooner said:And as McQuaid said the other day, Lance is a victim.
Pull the other one that Cookson is worse off.
Catwhoorg said:He has worked with Brailsford for a long time (~20 years IIRC), and formerly sat on the managing board of Sky (as the BC representative there)
I don't think friends is a wrong statement about the situation (and additionally why I think Ollie and conflict of interest is a red herring. If there is any conflict of interest, Ollie has little to do with it, its down to the long friendship between Cookson and various Sky folks.)
Dear Wiggo said:I'm throwing mud at Cookson. He's not the sport, so your accusation of "throwing mud at the sport" seems pretty wild.
ETA: And I read the article - there was no mention of a question of those 2 specifically. Perhaps you could link to the question that was asked?
the sceptic said:Did McQuaid refer to Lance as his friend? I dont remember that.
He had his faults, but he wasnt so obviously biased towards one federation as Cookson is. I see Cookson as the british version of McQuaid. I dont see any evidence of change.
Dear Wiggo said:I'm throwing mud at Cookson. He's not the sport, so your accusation of "throwing mud at the sport" seems pretty wild.
ETA: And I read the article - there was no mention of a question of those 2 specifically. Perhaps you could link to the question that was asked?
kingjr said:The quotes are from an interview with The Guardian, so it's not unlikely that he was asked a question that involved Riis and Vinokourov specifically. I don't think it matters much because he also says this: "those two people and others as well need to bear that in mind if they want to continue to operate in our world, opinion in the world of cycling would be much more favourable towards them if they came forward.”
Dear Wiggo said:Yes, he did give them as examples. He mentioned them by name. He didn't mention anyone else.
If you can't see how that is biased, I have nothing further to say to you.
remarkably quick indeed.thehog said:Considering how quick Cookson was to defend the Froome-TUE without mentioning the lack of a committee then he most certainly is compromised.
gooner said:Cookson's first comment was "I would like both of them" which clearly is in response to a question on them. He's right in what he ssid about them but you and your type look for ways to get controversy out of everything with the usual nitpicking and needless criticism for the sake if it when there is no basis for it.
You also fail to grasp the obvious fact he spoke in general terms about people comming forward to the commission.
The UCI president, Brian Cookson, has called upon Alexandr Vinokourov and Bjarne Riis, the heads of the two most prominent teams in this year’s Tour de France, to testify before the independent commission on cycling’s doping history as a way of helping the sport move on from its past.
Vinokourov, who is in charge of the Tour de France winner’s Astana squad, tested positive for blood doping in 2007. Riis, who is boss of Tinkoff-Saxo, winners of three mountain stages and the King of the Mountains prize, confessed to having used erythropoietin to win the 1996 Tour; he was initially expunged from the record but subsequently reinstated.
“I would like both of them to come to the commission,” Cookson told the Guardian at the Tour de France finish in Paris. “The commission doesn’t have powers of subpoena, but there is a court of public opinion here which is really important; those two people and others as well need to bear that in mind if they want to continue to operate in our world, opinion in the world of cycling would be much more favourable towards them if they came forward.”
King Boonen said:Everyone seems to to be jumping the gun on this. Does Cookson actually know who has been to CiRC? I thought it was confidential? Surely he is just saying he would like them to? But yes, unless he was asked specifically about those two, and he could well have been, I don't see why he would single them out apart from the fact they are very high profile and in the news because their riders have been doing well. Maybe that prompted it?
sniper said:remarkably quick indeed.
he was quick as well to threaten with legal action against those insinuating Brian is compromised by Oliver's Sky engagement.
thehog said:Nice try. But the first paragraph makes it clear what Cookson's "announcement" was. Cookson "told" rather than "responded" to a question.
thehog said:Nice try. But the first paragraph makes it clear what Cookson's "announcement" was. Cookson "told" rather than "responded" to the question.
thehog said:Considering how quick Cookson was to defend the Froome-TUE without mentioning the lack of a committee then he most certainly is compromised.
McQuaid sanctioned Ullrich, Armstrong & Contador.
3 of the sports biggest names. I don't think McQuaid was scared to do what's right in cycling once it became abundantly clear of their guilt.