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[KOM]

People will always go on about a wet Roubaix which is 100x more dangerous, but then they are happy that riders stop the race because the are a bit cold and wet in the name of 'safety'

The Benji Naesen Soyboy cry on social media mentality has been poisoning cycling and may well destroy it

 

[Nick2413]

They need to work a “right to ride” into their bylaws or something to make sure the aggressors don’t destroy the sport.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

It's Teddy's fault. Riders didn't want to race for 2nd in miserable weather.

 

[sam6]

Well, what's the criteria for not racing then?
"Not safe"? What's deemed as "not safe"? Wet roads? Then we may as well cancel every race if it's raining.

Now, if the rain and the amount of water brings random objects on the road, that's completely understandable and justified cancellation.
But if the roads are just very wet.. That's not any more unsafe than Emilia.

The riders are the ones racing, they thought Emilia was ok and this must mean today was worse

 

[Savant12]

Decided to stop once they saw a canoe going past showing time gaps.

 

[YavorD]

The riders are the ones racing, they thought Emilia was ok and this must mean today was worse

And that's exactly what the problem is. Riders decide when to race and when not to race without a clear line of what's acceptable and what's not.

If they don't want to race, that's fine. Just DNF or DNS. Leave the ones who want to race and get result to do it.

 

[Netserk]

It's Teddy's fault. Riders didn't want to race for 2nd in miserable weather.

Yep, @Red Rick needs an update.

"All Froome's fault."

Formerly on Red Rick's profile pic and should become a forum meme.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

"The peloton decided to stop, the descent was no longer safe. All sorts of things came up, the manhole covers even came loose," said Wesley van Speybroeck, team manager of Lotto Dstny afterwards.

If this is true race should be cancelled and all the "riders didnt want to get wet" posters should be slightly ashamed.

 

[topcat]

Just when you thought cycling couldn't get any deader, they killed it again.
But there's still a lot of drinks I haven't drunk,
Lots of pretty thoughts I haven't thunk.

 

[tobydawq]

I have no problem with it if the UCI commissaire stopped the race (if the situation called for that per the rules). No problem if teams and riders voluntarily stopped racing. And no problem at all if they raise their concerns with the commissaire.

Strikes are not that.

Please explain how the bolded was not what happened.

 

[sam6]

And that's exactly what the problem is. Riders decide when to race and when not to race without a clear line of what's acceptable and what's not.

If they don't want to race, that's fine. Just DNF or DNS. Leave the ones who want to race and get result to do it.

It's clear that the threshold from the organizers for what is safe is too low

 

[Ricco']

It's clear that the threshold from the organizers for what is safe is too low

The organizers shouldn't have any vote on the matter, the only persons who should be responsible for the decisions are the commissaires, who should be trained to deal accordingly.

 

[YavorD]

It's clear that the threshold from the organizers for what is safe is too low

Well, I guess organizers have to stop organising races, or at least to do in on a flat local lap for everything to be safe then?

You simply can not eliminate risks in bike racing and it's pretty convenient for riders to always cite safety.*

*It is possible that conditions today were really unsafe. But (very) wet road while unsafe condition should NOT be condition to stop a race.

 

[topcat]

I'm recording this as a defeat for Pogacar.

 

[Netserk]

Please explain how the bolded was not what happened.

If it was a strike where the majority of (or the most powerful) riders forced others not to race (before the commissaire reacted to that), then that is not what happened. Did the cancellation follow the rules of the sport? I don't claim full knowledge of the facts, and it is possible that it went down as it should. A strike is not that.

 

[AmRacer]

If riders would be crashing to the left and right, people would complain on the organizers, UCI, Adam, riders etc.

 

[Berniece]

And that's exactly what the problem is. Riders decide when to race and when not to race without a clear line of what's acceptable and what's not.

If they don't want to race, that's fine. Just DNF or DNS. Leave the ones who want to race and get result to do it.

So the most daring rider can win? And we push the riders to go over their limits if they want to go for glory?

 

[Brullnux]

I don't think it's particularly deep, I don't think anyone could see the road on the descent and it seems they were almost touching the water when pedalling in some parts (potentially Pogacar hyperbole, but his interview was very reasonable). They tried, and it seems riders just decided it was a bit too much. If between general visibility and standing water you can't see potholes on the road then I agree, it's too much.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I'm recording this as a defeat for Pogacar.

His 3rd of the year: after MSR and Quebec. The weather joins an exclusive club of his slayers this year. Only Matthews beat him twice so he's winning this prestigious contest (it's probably because he's Pogi's buddy though).

 

[tobydawq]

If it was a strike where the majority of (or the most powerful) riders forced others not to race (before the commissaire reacted to that), then that is not what happened. Did the cancellation follow the rules of the sport? I don't claim full knowledge of the facts, and it is possible that it went down as it should. A strike is not that.

Fair enough.

 

[tobydawq]

His 3rd of the year: after MSR and Quebec. The weather joins an exclusive club of his slayers this year. Only Matthews beat him twice so he's winning this prestigious contest (it's probably because he's Pogi's buddy though).

Urska also beat him at the Olympics.

 

[topcat]

His 3rd of the year: after MSR and Quebec. The weather joins an exclusive club of his slayers this year. Only Matthews beat him twice so he's winning this prestigious contest (it's probably because he's Pogi's buddy though).

> 3 defeats.
He didn't win all of the stages in the Giro and the Tour.
Every silver lining has a cloud.

 

[AmRacer]

> 3 defeats.
He didn't win all of the stages in the Giro and the Tour.
Every silver lining has a cloud.

He let other riders win something.

 

[YavorD]

So the most daring rider can win? And we push the riders to go over their limits if they want to go for glory?

Yes. Cycling has always been about the most daring riders winning.

What's the alternative to that? Don't do any more downhill finales (as the daring riders win). Do not hold races on very technical courses as "we push riders riders to the limit"?
How far are we going in order to minimise the risk while keeping the identity of cycling?

 

[AmRacer]

Yes. Cycling has always been about the most daring riders winning.

What's the alternative to that? Don't do any more downhill finales (as the daring riders win). Do not hold races on very technical courses as "we push riders riders to the limit"?
How far are we going in order to minimise the risk while keeping the identity of cycling?

This far.