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sam6 said:
It's clear that the threshold from the organizers for what is safe is too low
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Well, I guess organizers have to stop organising races, or at least to do in on a flat local lap for everything to be safe then?

You simply can not eliminate risks in bike racing and it's pretty convenient for riders to always cite safety.*

*It is possible that conditions today were really unsafe. But (very) wet road while unsafe condition should NOT be condition to stop a race.
 
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tobydawq said:
Please explain how the bolded was not what happened.
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If it was a strike where the majority of (or the most powerful) riders forced others not to race (before the commissaire reacted to that), then that is not what happened. Did the cancellation follow the rules of the sport? I don't claim full knowledge of the facts, and it is possible that it went down as it should. A strike is not that.
 
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YavorD said:
And that's exactly what the problem is. Riders decide when to race and when not to race without a clear line of what's acceptable and what's not.

If they don't want to race, that's fine. Just DNF or DNS. Leave the ones who want to race and get result to do it.
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So the most daring rider can win? And we push the riders to go over their limits if they want to go for glory?
 
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I don't think it's particularly deep, I don't think anyone could see the road on the descent and it seems they were almost touching the water when pedalling in some parts (potentially Pogacar hyperbole, but his interview was very reasonable). They tried, and it seems riders just decided it was a bit too much. If between general visibility and standing water you can't see potholes on the road then I agree, it's too much.
 
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Berniece said:
So the most daring rider can win? And we push the riders to go over their limits if they want to go for glory?
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Yes. Cycling has always been about the most daring riders winning.

What's the alternative to that? Don't do any more downhill finales (as the daring riders win). Do not hold races on very technical courses as "we push riders riders to the limit"?
How far are we going in order to minimise the risk while keeping the identity of cycling?
 
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YavorD said:
Yes. Cycling has always been about the most daring riders winning.

What's the alternative to that? Don't do any more downhill finales (as the daring riders win). Do not hold races on very technical courses as "we push riders riders to the limit"?
How far are we going in order to minimise the risk while keeping the identity of cycling?
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Notice where the locus of control is. Riders have no agency, no responsibility. "We" push them.
 
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Netserk said:
Notice where the locus of control is. Riders have no agency, no responsibility. "We" push them.
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Yeah, I always find it funny when people claim as if "we" or organisers are "pushing riders to the limit" and they can't assess the risks they are taking and if it's too big for their liking they can't just DNF/DNS or even retire altogether.


Same with Football. "We" and FIFA are pushing players to play so much and they can't do anything about it..
 
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pastronef said:
eh?
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Yesterday was Piccolo Stelvio. The waterfall makes this the Piccolo Fedaia.
 
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According to the race organizers the manholes/sewer system could no longer swallow the water on that descent after torrential rainfalls. In some Northern Italian regions they already expect floods during the night, this time it is clearly extreme weather and not just a few pampered millionaires not wanting to ride in the cold (see the Giro).

Clearly all Australians but Hindley need to be banned from riding the Giro, maybe even from racing in Italy in general.
 
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