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Fake news quaks full of crap. Headline says "As the US records 1 million Covid deaths, experts note underinvestment in long-term care, primary care and public health all contributed to the toll "

Nope the CDC says this 997,468

cheering on death is another horrible look on the median. The guardian is a trash outlet. No facts.
They're all trash, IMO. They can't be trusted because it's agenda-based media with the paid advertising they get from Big Pharma. Plus the government gave 1 Billion of taxpayer's $$$ to the American media corporation to promote the vaccines & fight against vaccine hesitancy. It's wasn't like they were advocating "informed consent" & emphasizing freedom of choice. Lol.

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They're all trash, IMO. They can't be trusted because it's agenda-based media with the paid advertising they get from Big Pharma. Plus the government gave 1 Billion of taxpayer's $$$ to the American media corporation to promote the vaccines & fight against vaccine hesitancy. It's wasn't like they were advocating "informed consent" & emphasizing freedom of choice. Lol.

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Lol...."They're all trash, IMO. They can't be trusted..."
Simpler when it's just "they", I guess.
 
Lol...."They're all trash, IMO. They can't be trusted..."
Simpler when it's just "they", I guess.
I'm not sure what the "they" is, but that is a mechanism to discount facts that people don't like. I've said it several times in this thread, the people who don't understand post: "oh its just oldermash...", when in fact it isn't oldermash, its oldermash posting scientific consensus. Its easier for them to point at oldermash.

Remember that Nature has been discounted by a few on here. But they don't quite discount the facts straight up, they discount where nature posted the link to the research.
 
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Fake news quaks full of crap. Headline says "As the US records 1 million Covid deaths, experts note underinvestment in long-term care, primary care and public health all contributed to the toll "

Nope the CDC says this 997,468

cheering on death is another horrible look on the median. The guardian is a trash outlet. No facts.


You can't just make up your own numbers. That is why we are so polarized at this point. Anywhere AUS or USA. wtf sad
This might be the funniest post in this whole forum. "It's not 1 million, it's 997,468", holy crap.
 
How accurate the numbers are is anyone's guess. Australia and the UK altered their numbers upwards and the WHO believe that India and Russia under reported by a lot. North Korea said they had 6 infections, the next day they had a million.................
Itis like Hong Kong dropped from 15,000 cases a day to averaging 300 cases a day ( has been the same for 2 weeks ) in the space of six weeks, which is completely different to any other country - Of course we know these are rubbery figures because no one in HK is reporting positive tests.

The more important issue moving forward is to produce an Omicron VACCINE in which it's express purpose is to reduce the transmissibility of the virus - This is vital for our future.
 
Itis like Hong Kong dropped from 15,000 cases a day to averaging 300 cases a day ( has been the same for 2 weeks ) in the space of six weeks, which is completely different to any other country - Of course we know these are rubbery figures because no one in HK is reporting positive tests.

The more important issue moving forward is to produce an Omicron VACCINE in which it's express purpose is to reduce the transmissibility of the virus - This is vital for our future.
It seems like Omicron is continuing to mutate although I haven't heard of a new mutation for quite a while now.
 
Silliness indeed?!

Worldometer has the USA at 1,029,337
Every news outlet has reported the "milestone' of 1,000,000+

997,486 is so much better though. :rolleyes:
CDC lists: 1,001,750. They were the ones who reported reaching 1 MIL. to the media.
Excess deaths 1,123,000.

We've talked about diabetes as a comorbidity here, but it is 3rd on the list at 15% of the deaths (147,822).
 
Itis like Hong Kong dropped from 15,000 cases a day to averaging 300 cases a day ( has been the same for 2 weeks ) in the space of six weeks, which is completely different to any other country - Of course we know these are rubbery figures because no one in HK is reporting positive tests.

The more important issue moving forward is to produce an Omicron VACCINE in which it's express purpose is to reduce the transmissibility of the virus - This is vital for our future.
There will be something new in a few months. I think one stumbling point is that omicron has a strange spike that makes it a poorer immunogen. The cross protection against other strains is not as robust. But the formulation change is inevitable and I plan to get the new one for my second booster once available.
BA2.12.1
BA.3, BA4, and BA5 are out there too.
There is so much omicron immunity out there that the next variant is likely to look less like omicron. Hopefully that won't happen for at least another year.
This might be the funniest post in this whole forum. "It's not 1 million, it's 997,468", holy crap.
It really was amazing.
 
Over a million dead Americans..and the upside is the incredible evolution,techniques and treatment have less death,hospital admissions,and serious illness because of public and professional response to Covid overall..so the sobering and somber images of refrigerated trailers storing corpses and funeral homes working 24\7 to keep up and failing to do so..we all hope that's behind us..In San Diego less than 100 people in the hospital for all Covid related anything..so declining numbers and epic science and social conscience have us over a hump..the cost over a million fellow citizens..
 
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Hmmm...China has failed to reveal much of the work on "Project PREDICT" - the U.S./China research into viruses that have the potential to leap from animals to humans, and China removed a database of viral sequencing shortly before the pandemic erupted.

COVID-19 is also unique in having furin cleavage site (FCR) - no other coronaviruses have this feature.
 
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COVID-19 is also unique in having furin cleavage site (FCR) - no other coronaviruses have this feature.
That last claim just isn't accurate. MERS has a fcs. Human coronaviruses have a fcs. These sites have arisen independently multiple times in coronaviruses and are also found in Hiv, ebola, and highly pathogenic strains of flu. The idea that it is smoking gun evidence for engineering makes sense to those who don't understand virology, or have ulterior motives.

No matter what the economist above says, the scientific consensus is that SC2 is a natural virus that caused a zoonosis due to live animal markets in Wuhan. No engineering required.

 
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That last claim just isn't accurate. MERS has a fcs. Human coronaviruses have a fcs. These sites have arisen independently multiple times in coronaviruses and are also found in Hiv, ebola, and highly pathogenic strains of flu. The idea that it is smoking gun evidence for engineering makes sense to those who don't understand virology, or have ulterior motives.

No matter what the economist above says, the scientific consensus is that SC2 is a natural virus that caused a zoonosis due to live animal markets in Wuhan. No engineering required.

UHOH! Is "Dr." Tucker being quoted again as a scientist again? :rolleyes:
 
That last claim just isn't accurate. MERS has a fcs. Human coronaviruses have a fcs. These sites have arisen independently multiple times in coronaviruses and are also found in Hiv, ebola, and highly pathogenic strains of flu. The idea that it is smoking gun evidence for engineering makes sense to those who don't understand virology, or have ulterior motives.

No matter what the economist above says, the scientific consensus is that SC2 is a natural virus that caused a zoonosis due to live animal markets in Wuhan. No engineering required.
From my understanding, there are researchers that have noted an unusual & unexpected FCS within the virus - the implication being that SARS-CoV-2 might be a product of lab manipulation. These researchers are calling for an independent inquiry into the origins.


Also, have you seen the paper by Jessse Bloom, an influenza expert from FH Cancer center? He's recovered the deleted files from a key global database concluding that the virus existed long before China's Huanan Seafood market story (In fact, I read reports that dozens of athletes had come down with symptoms very similar to Covid symptoms at the World Military games conducted in Wahun back in October, 2019. Some of these athletes were so sick they had to leave the games & return back to their home country). Was SARS-CoV-2 circulating in Wahun as early as the Fall of 2019? Was China keeping quiet while trying to keep the virus contained in Wahun?



And what about the GOF experiments that the NIH & Wahun lab were conducting? Question for you: It is possible to experiment with & manipulate the gene sequencing of an existing *bat virus" in a laboratory setting? (you've haven't really discussed much on GOF research with viruses - I'm sure with your knowledge & expertise in virology, you could enlighten us on what kind of modifications can be done these days on a virus to influence & enhance it's infection/transmission capabilities, mutations, immune escape, etc.)

I think with the Chinese deleting a key global database early on in the pandemic, and Fauci remaining silent on GOF research with the Chinese, the origin & early spread of SARS-CoV-2 still remains shrouded in mystery.
 
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