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I think what Nomad is saying holds water..I wished his views could be my reality...but..obesity,poor nutrition and zero exercise is the norm, not the exception.
So like fire danger,too late to discuss storing mass quantities of gas and chemicals in your garage when 4 fire trucks are at your house.
Obesity was an emergency before Covid..I will let someone else categorize what you call an emergency one up't from a pandemic.
Same w health care system..health care data reporting, sure the US knew that we had a problem,but it's all a day late and a dollar short once a pandemic sweeps over the country.
Obviously no country was ready..equally as obvious nobody is the same so what works in Singapore,doesn't work in Strasburg..and may not apply in Cincinnati..
But we can all learn from each other,everyone can be a data point for one another..
So should the US slim down? Stop serving mega calorie food as the norm,instead of the exception? Yes..Will a deadly pandemic change our ways?
Absolutely not.
So broad pandemic health solutions in the US cannot include common sense or heavy loads of shame..it doesn't work..
Unfortunately,Americans are looking for a pill. An injection that will mitigate bad..it doesn't exist..
Not yet.
We are dying at our own hands..not anything China..the US has a preexisting condition that nobody wants to talk about..gut circumference..gig workers without benefits, millions of service workers who don't have anything,legal documents,or rights or health care..the pandemic has exposed the fragile chaos..need fundamental change..maybe no help for this pandemic,but the next one,whatever form it takes
Your philosophy on this is weird and it sounds like you're giving overweight & unhealthy people an excuse not to eat better and excercise. I've been around many gyms for over 40 yrs now and have met a lot of people. I've seen so many overweight people over the years commit to a more healthy lifestyle losing a lot of weight through diet & excercise. These are both young & old individuals. And with many it isn't all rainbows & marshmallows in their personal lives; divorces, child issues, family deaths, work stress, financial issues, psychological issues, alcohol & drug problems. But yet they have found the time to commit to a healthier lifestyle and not make excuses. When you put your mind to something you can do it.
My voting center had a lot of fiberglass FWIW. Like usual, most of the people who worked the center, which was in a High School gymnasium, were in the older age brackets. I believe using a computer interface is available at my precinct, but I only saw people take the paper route. I am sure someone will try to model the effect of voting transmission, but as with other attempts, it will be controversial.I wonder how much additional infections will be caused by the election. I'm seeing people in counting centres is states with high infection rates, sitting indoors for hours with quite many people and sometimes shabby face coverings. Doesn't look like a good environment to be in. I don't know why you don't vote on computers (in voting centres)? I've been doing that here since I'm eligible to vote (20 years). No scanning required, no manual work, no errors, immediate results.
Yes...when you lose weight by eating healthy & excercising you not only look better, feel better, more energy, etc.,but have a healthier immune system which is critical in this or any pandemic.Nomad's post reminds me that I used to work with two older women, who both had a weight problem. One of the women, highly educated, Ph.D, worked hard to control her weight. She's always going to be heavy, but she took some weight off, and watched her diet. She understands the health problems very clearly, and takes dieting very seriously, though AFAIK, she doesn't exercise much.
The other woman, less educated, though successful in a business, strongly resisted any suggestions to change her eating habits. She was the kind of person who would walk into a room after a seminar or lab meeting was over and gobble up all the leftover food. Her attitude was, I love to eat, and if I can't, life isn't worth living.
I'm not sure what you say to the latter kind of person. You can argue that when you lose weight, you not only look better, but feel better, with more energy. For many, I assume Nomad is one, this kind of reward overcomes the hardship of watching what you eat, exercising, and so on. I think that's why so many people can initially lose weight. But the key word there is initially. The great majority, of course, eventually gain most if not all of the weight back. At some point, the novelty of looking and feeling better wears off, and you're left with the daily battle to fight the desire to eat.
1) Betting the farm was a choice that we did not have to make. 2) Many people don't understand how clinical trials work.The world has bet the farm on vaccines as the solution to the pandemic, but the trials are not focused on answering the questions many might assume they are.
As I have mentioned before, there is a legitimate discussion to be had about whether the vaccine should reduce transmission. But, the sticking point is that type of study design would require frequent and regular swabbing of each and every one of the enrollees. It is a challenging study to enroll 30,000 people for and then execute for an indefinite period of time. Again, what the guy is directly telling us.But Tal Zaks, chief medical officer at Moderna, told The BMJ that the company’s trial lacks adequate statistical power to assess those outcomes.
Overall, that is a good article to read fully.“Our trial will not demonstrate prevention of transmission,” Zaks said, “because in order to do that you have to swab people twice a week for very long periods, and that becomes operationally untenable.”
I'm more addicted to activity than an other thing. I truly live to ride my bike. When I can't , I enjoy hiking, jogging, lifting weights... I eat roughly 3,000-3,500 calories daily (more when I was younger). Maybe I'm 'lucky' to be who I am in that regard?Nomad's post reminds me that I used to work with two older women, who both had a weight problem. One of the women, highly educated, Ph.D, worked hard to control her weight. She's always going to be heavy, but she took some weight off, and watched her diet. She understands the health problems very clearly, and takes dieting very seriously, though AFAIK, she doesn't exercise much.
The other woman, less educated, though successful in a business, strongly resisted any suggestions to change her eating habits. She was the kind of person who would walk into a room after a seminar or lab meeting was over and gobble up all the leftover food. Her attitude was, I love to eat, and if I can't, life isn't worth living.
I'm not sure what you say to the latter kind of person. You can argue that when you lose weight, you not only look better, but feel better, with more energy. For many, I assume Nomad is one, this kind of reward overcomes the hardship of watching what you eat, exercising, and so on. I think that's why so many people can initially lose weight. But the key word there is initially. The great majority, of course, eventually gain most if not all of the weight back. At some point, the novelty of looking and feeling better wears off, and you're left with the daily battle to fight the desire to eat.
this is the quirk about nationalism,about American exceptionalism..it can't make sense it's based on a bubble or a series of complicated bubbles that don't exist..and I will qualify that,the bubbles don't exist on this planet.Plandemic is now over. It’s all good.
In a few short months everything will be just fine. Trust me.
On the vaccine front:
"Will Covid-19 vaccines save lives? Current trials aren't designed to tell us."
Will covid-19 vaccines save lives? Current trials aren’t designed to tell us
The world has bet the farm on vaccines as the solution to the pandemic, but the trials are not focused on answering the questions many might assume they are. Peter Doshi reports As phase III trials of covid-19 vaccines reach their target enrolments, officials have been trying to project calm...www.bmj.com
"None of the trials currently under way are designed to detect a reduction in any serious outcome such as hospital admissions, use of intensive care, or deaths. Nor are the vaccines being studied to determine whether they can interrupt transmission of the virus."
"In all the ongoing phase III trials for which details have been released, laboratory confirmed infections even with only mild symptoms qualify as meeting the primary endpoint definition.9101112 In Pfizer and Moderna’s trials, for example, people with only a cough and positive laboratory test would bring those trials one event closer to their completion. (If AstraZeneca’s ongoing UK trial is designed similarly to its “paused” US trial for which the company has released details, a cough and fever with positive PCR test would suffice.)"
Just because the trials are not designed to detect whether the hospitalizations and deaths are decreased in people who receive the vaccines does not mean that an effective vaccine that prevents moderate illness will not help prevent serious outcomes too. It is just that we won't be able to determine that in these 30K person studies. The purpose of the COVID-19 vaccine is to limit the disease in the individuals that get infected by decreasing colonization of the lower airways. Hopefully turning people who would normally die into hospitalizations. Turning people who would normally be hospitalized into mild symptoms and turning people with mild symptoms into asymptomatic cases. Essentially, turning COVID into a seasonal common cold type CoV. It is highly debatable whether you can prevent colonization of the upper airways, which means it might not be possible for a vaccine to prevent transmission between people. But it might limit the severity of the infection enough that it quickly fades into anonymity.
Chris don't know an easy and legal way to bet one another but if you have a simple solution for anonymous money transfer, I will bet $1,00000 usd that the Covid-19 virus is not gone in a couple(2) months.
You really do think the US exists in a vacuum, huh.
Yes, and what you wrote implies that coverage in the US before now and its focus on the necessity of restrictions despite the damage to the economy was part of an anti-Trump agenda, instead of something that the media all over the world had in common.