CQ ranking

[ingsve]

A few continental guys is a good thing to have. Cardoso at 134 could be a good buy. Look at visconti last year getting huge ammounts of points and Vacan coming 8th overall, beating half the pt teams cq wise.


But once you get past the portugese riders, all the guys you have, i have
Great minds think alike.

Ah, but Andre Cardoso rides for a Continental team not a Pro Continental team. That's a huge diffrence.

 

[Parrulo]

A few continental guys is a good thing to have. Cardoso at 134 could be a good buy. Look at visconti last year getting huge ammounts of points and Vacan coming 8th overall, beating half the pt teams cq wise.


But once you get past the portugese riders, all the guys you have, i have
Great minds think alike.

i didn't noticed that xD well my team is pretty basic. i played a safe game. betting on a the main cobble rider(boonen, only cus was cheap this year ofc) and having 2 cheap options as back up(ballan and haussler) getting some guys who will win some stages and then the obvious young guns that can either do nothing or just explode with huge results.
ofc there is more into it but i have to wake up in a couple hours so i will explain my full method of selection(not only individually for each rider) after classes tomorrow ^_^

Ah, but Andre Cardoso rides for a Continental team not a Pro Continental team. That's a huge diffrence.

A PORTUGUESE CONTINENTAL TEAM(lol this was on purpose ) so that means he will only get to ride some "minor" spanish races. ofc without blanco i can see him just blowing the entire volta field into oblivion but still that only gave blanco some off 300 points. unless ofc and this would be awesomesauce if palmeires risort tavira gets invited to the vuelta. i bet he can keep up with the big guys in the montains. srsly the work he did for blanco on this volta was just freaking epic. i will also provide links tomorrow.

still as this is a game he is not a great bet

 

[Tuarts]

Keeping track of the scores isn't tough.

CQ has a weekly .xls file available for download with the points of the various riders.

The annoying part isn't keeping the scores, it's getting the teams entered into a spreadsheet with names that exactly match what the CQrankings have. Once they match, you just do a simple vlookup based on the name entered in the spreadsheet, so we can download the weekly file, paste the sheet into the lookup sheet in the scoring excel file and everything will just update automatically.

I don't mind setting it up for Hugo if he's not an excel guy... but I'd appreciate help with the proper names for each person's team. If you want to either post your team here with the proper names that CQ uses, or PM them to me (or PM them to Hugo again if he wants to do it himself), it would save a bunch of time. Ferminal has a post earlier which apparently lists the proper names for all the riders selected.

I don't know what our commish wants to do about letting more people in... but with the spreadsheet setup that way there's not much time involved with updating scores. Of course the people coming later would be able to see the earlier crowd's entries, but having more take part is always fun.

This would be good. Spent hours last night doing a draft thinking there's time then its gets capped when I read page 4. Skipped to now so nfi what teams we're but its a shame. I guess full time work doesn't pay. :/

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

@ hitch . it was 2nd, with no luck involved.

hopefully hugh lets me enter, I showed interested from the beginning and made references to my team. I'm also pretty certain no one will have a team like me also, as it is literally half dutch riders I am destined to fail anyway

@ ferminal
You weren't the only one with de maar

 

[Ferminal]

Okay... here are all the teams, in proper name, sorted alphabetically.

Some teams are over the limit - this may be an error in my data but can you please check manually and find where the error is.

Auscyclefan

ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor 952
BALLAN Alessandro 474
BLANCO RODRIGUEZ David 300
BOOKWALTER Brent 106
BOS Theo 182
CANTWELL Jonathan 47
CARDOSO Manuel Antonio Leal 262
DE LA FUENTE RASILLA David 72
EVANS Cadel 1619
FEILLU Brice 70
FURLAN Angelo 151
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
HOWARD Leigh 155
HUNTER Robert 186
IVANOV Serguei 196
KRISTOFF Alexander 406
LANCASTER Brett 78
MOINARD Amaël 185
O'GRADY Stuart 88
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
QUINZIATO Manuel 144
RENSHAW Mark 106
STANNARD Ian 110
SUTTON Christopher 184
TIRALONGO Paolo 101
VAN AVERMAET Greg 632
VANDE VELDE Christian 90

7207

auto de fe

BOBRIDGE Jack 149
BOOM Lars 463
DE GREEF Francis 120
GREIPEL Andre 1457
GULDHAMMER Rasmus 101
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
IGLINSKIY Valentin 301
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 216
LLOYD Matthew 206
MEYER Cameron 175
OVECHKIN Artem 193
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
PETIT Adrien 21
PHINNEY Taylor 217
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander 72
SABATINI Fabio 204
SAGAN Peter 932
SPILAK Simon 555
STEVENSON Michael 136
SWIFT Ben 203
TAARAMÄE Rein 383
TEN DAM Laurens 97
TXURRUKA ANSOLA Amets 75
URAN URAN Rigoberto 410
VAN POPPEL Boy 78
WEYLANDT Wouter 429

7504

Barrus

BOIVIN Guillaume 151
BOL Jetse 115
CAVENDISH Mark 1241
DEBUSSCHERE Jens 39
DOWSETT Alex 10
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres 181
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
KASHECHKIN Andrey 84
KEUKELEIRE Jens 479
KING Benjamin 149
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 216
MATTHEWS Michael 278
MODOLO Sacha 330
MOLLEMA Bauke 524
NIERMANN Grischa 86
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
PHINNEY Taylor 217
ROE Timothy 43
RUJANO GUILLEN Jose Humberto 261
SICARD Romain 174
SLAGTER Tom Jelte 52
SOLER HERNANDEZ Juan Mauricio 47
SPILAK Simon 555
STEEGMANS Gert 255
STYBAR Zdenek 9
TAARAMÄE Rein 383
TALANSKY Andrew 76
TXURRUKA ANSOLA Amets 75
VAN GARDEREN Tejay 531
VANDE VELDE Christian 90
VIVIANI Elia 312

7274

Bumeignton

ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor 952
BLANCO RODRIGUEZ David 300
BOONEN Tom 777
BOS Theo 182
CAVENDISH Mark 1241
CHAVANEL Sylvain 533
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose 0
DEGENKOLB John 145
DI LUCA Danilo 113
DOWSETT Alex 10
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres 181
EIJSSEN Yannick 88
FEILLU Brice 70
GERRANS Simon 140
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
IRIARTE GARRO Francisco Javier 0
KASHECHKIN Andrey 84
LANGEVELD Sebastian 229
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
RASMUSSEN Michael 38
RICCO Riccardo 756
RUJANO GUILLEN Jose Humberto 261
SANZ UNZUE Enrique 0
SCHUMACHER Stefan 5
SEELDRAEYERS Kevin 40
SELLA Emanuele 354
SINKEWITZ Patrik 340
SIUTSOU Kanstantsin 121
SOLER HERNANDEZ Juan Mauricio 47
STYBAR Zdenek 9
TALANSKY Andrew 76
VANDE VELDE Christian 90

7493

Contra la montre

BERTOGLIATI Rubens 134
BOS Theo 182
BRESCHEL Matti 843
CUNEGO Damiano 659
DAVIS Allan 601
DE LA FUENTE RASILLA David 72
GERDEMANN Linus 322
GERRANS Simon 140
GRABSCH Bert 158
HUNTER Robert 186
IGNATIEV Mikhail 117
KASHECHKIN Andrey 84
KLIER Andreas 80
KREUZIGER Roman 839
KROON Karsten 130
MAASKANT Martijn 118
MALACARNE Davide 75
NUYENS Nick 220
PAULINHO Sergio Miguel Moreira 125
PAUWELS Serge 87
PHINNEY Taylor 217
POSTHUMA Joost 99
QUINZIATO Manuel 144
RENSHAW Mark 106
RICCO Riccardo 756
SAMOILAU Branislau 133
SELLA Emanuele 354
SZMYD Sylwester 270
TEN DAM Laurens 97
VANDE VELDE Christian 90
WEGELIUS Charles 62

7500

DeValtos


ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor 952
BOBRIDGE Jack 149
BOS Theo 182
BUSCHE Matthew 194
CLARKE William 77
DI LUCA Danilo 113
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres 181
FEILLU Brice 70
FUGLSANG Jakob 802
GALIMZYANOV Denis 195
GERRANS Simon 140
GNEZDA Matej 168
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
IVANOV Serguei 196
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka 126
KREUZIGER Roman 839
LEQUATRE Geoffroy 190
MALORI Adriano 213
MAYOZ ETXEBERRIA Iban 112
MIRONOV Alexander 125
MORTENSEN Martin 178
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
PHINNEY Taylor 217
RASMUSSEN Alex 267
RICCO Riccardo 756
RUJANO GUILLEN Jose Humberto 261
ULISSI Diego 246
VANDE VELDE Christian 90
WYSS Marcel 141

7491

Ferminal

ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor 952
ARVESEN Kurt Asle 24
BOONEN Tom 777
CAVENDISH Mark 1241
CHICCHI Francesco 287
CLARKE Simon 81
CLEMENT Stef 54
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose 0
DE MAAR Marc 95
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres 181
FRANK Mathias 68
GALIMZYANOV Denis 195
GOSS Matthew 634
GUSEV Vladimir 443
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Luis 49
KASHECHKIN Andrey 84
KLIER Andreas 80
OLIVEIRA Nelson Felipe Santos 150
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
PIRES Bruno Manuel Silva 28
POPOVYCH Yaroslav 54
RICCO Riccardo 756
ROE Timothy 43
RUJANO GUILLEN Jose Humberto 261
SEELDRAEYERS Kevin 40
SINKEWITZ Patrik 340
SIUTSOU Kanstantsin 121
SOLER HERNANDEZ Juan Mauricio 47
VALJAVEC Tadej 65

7461

Hrotha

BAKELANTS Jan 279
BOLE Grega 662
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose 0
DEIGNAN Philip 5
DENIFL Stefan 189
DOWSETT Alex 10
GALIMZYANOV Denis 195
GESINK Robert 1406
HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus 7
JOLY Sébastien 0
KREDER Michel 282
MADRAZO RUIZ Angel 20
MARTENS Paul 463
MODOLO Sacha 330
NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel 90
OSS Daniel 390
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
PETERSON Thomas 130
POELS Wout 266
RICCO Riccardo 756
SANTAMBROGIO Mauro 329
SEELDRAEYERS Kevin 40
SICARD Romain 174
SOLARI Luca 5
SOLER HERNANDEZ Juan Mauricio 47
STYBAR Zdenek 9
TERPSTRA Niki 369
VAN AVERMAET Greg 632
VAN IMPE Kevin 15
VANMARCKE Sep 340

7500

Hugo Koblet

ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor 952
BLANCO RODRIGUEZ David 300
BRESCHEL Matti 843
CAPECCHI Eros 137
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose 0
DEGENKOLB John 145
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres 181
FEILLU Brice 70
FELLINE Fabio 288
GALIMZYANOV Denis 195
GERRANS Simon 140
GUARNIERI Jacopo 232
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
KRISTOFF Alexander 406
KUMP Marko 134
KWIATKOWSKI Michal 87
MADRAZO RUIZ Angel 20
NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel 90
NIZZOLO Giacomo 4
NUYENS Nick 220
OLIVEIRA Nelson Felipe Santos 150
OSS Daniel 390
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
RICCO Riccardo 756
SEELDRAEYERS Kevin 40
SICARD Romain 174
SINKEWITZ Patrik 340
SIUTSOU Kanstantsin 121
SOLER HERNANDEZ Juan Mauricio 47
STEEGMANS Gert 255
STYBAR Zdenek 9
TERPSTRA Niki 369
VANDE VELDE Christian 90

7496

 

[Ferminal]

Ingsve

ARVESEN Kurt Asle 24
BALLAN Alessandro 474
BLANCO RODRIGUEZ David 300
BOONEN Tom 777
BOS Theo 182
CHAVANEL Sylvain 533
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose 0
CUNEGO Damiano 659
DEIGNAN Philip 5
DURAN AROCA Arkaitz 182
GALIMZYANOV Denis 195
GERRANS Simon 140
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
HUNTER Robert 186
VEIKKANEN Jussi 127
KASHECHKIN Andrey 84
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik 34
KRISTOFF Alexander 406
KROON Karsten 130
KUMP Marko 134
LÖFKVIST Thomas 319
LOWE Trent 10
NUYENS Nick 220
QUINZIATO Manuel 144
RASMUSSEN Alex 267
ROHREGGER Thomas 102
RUJANO GUILLEN Jose Humberto 261
SIUTSOU Kanstantsin 121
URAN URAN Rigoberto 410
VAITKUS Tomas 45
VANDE VELDE Christian 90
VIVIANI Elia 312
WIGGINS Bradley 376

7500

Jens_attacks

BETANCOURT GOMEZ Carlos Alberto 45
BLANCO RODRIGUEZ David 300
DEGENKOLB John 145
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres 181
GASPAROTTO Enrico 284
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
HINCAPIE George 368
HOOGERLAND Johnny 452
IGLINSKIY Maxim 595
KASHECHKIN Andrey 84
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik 34
KISERLOVSKI Robert 368
KLÖDEN Andreas 533
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
PLIUSCHIN Alexandre 74
PORTE Richie 739
RASMUSSEN Michael 38
RICCO Riccardo 756
RUJANO GUILLEN Jose Humberto 261
SCHUMACHER Stefan 5
SINKEWITZ Patrik 340
SOLER HERNANDEZ Juan Mauricio 47
TIRALONGO Paolo 101
VANDE VELDE Christian 90
VINOKOUROV Alexandre 1318
WURF Cameron 38

7507

Jukebox

ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor 952
BURGHARDT Marcus 289
CHICCHI Francesco 287
CIOLEK Gerald 346
GERRANS Simon 140
GESINK Robert 1406
HAMMOND Roger 279
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
HIVERT Jonathan 283
IVANOV Serguei 196
KING Benjamin 149
KUMP Marko 134
LANGEVELD Sebastian 229
LÖFKVIST Thomas 319
MAASKANT Martijn 118
NUYENS Nick 220
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
PHINNEY Taylor 217
POSTHUMA Joost 99
RICCO Riccardo 756
SICARD Romain 174
STEEGMANS Gert 255
TEN DAM Laurens 97
VANDE VELDE Christian 90
VANSUMMEREN Johan 147

7493

Kurtinsc

BOOM Lars 463
BOS Theo 182
BUTLER Christopher 15
CHICCHI Francesco 287
CIOLEK Gerald 346
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose 0
DANIELSON Tom 316
DEGENKOLB John 145
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres 181
FEILLU Brice 70
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
HERMANS Ben 223
HOOGERLAND Johnny 452
KEUKELEIRE Jens 479
LLOYD Matthew 206
MAASKANT Martijn 118
MOLLEMA Bauke 524
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
PHINNEY Taylor 217
SEELDRAEYERS Kevin 40
SICARD Romain 174
STEEGMANS Gert 255
STETINA Peter 99
SWIFT Ben 203
TALANSKY Andrew 76
URAN URAN Rigoberto 410
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen 707
VAN GARDEREN Tejay 531
VANDE VELDE Christian 90
WIGGINS Bradley 376

7496

Kvinto

BOECKMANS Kris 289
BOONEN Tom 777
CAVENDISH Mark 1241
DEGENKOLB John 145
DEIGNAN Philip 5
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres 181
GALIMZYANOV Denis 195
GERRANS Simon 140
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
IVANOV Serguei 196
KASHECHKIN Andrey 84
KROON Karsten 130
KUMP Marko 134
LÖFKVIST Thomas 319
MATTHEWS Michael 278
NOCENTINI Rinaldo 227
NUYENS Nick 220
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
PHINNEY Taylor 217
POSSONI Morris 305
POSTHUMA Joost 99
RICCO Riccardo 756
SICARD Romain 174
STEEGMANS Gert 255
STYBAR Zdenek 9
VALLS FERRI Rafael 256
VANDE VELDE Christian 90
VANMARCKE Sep 340
VEIKKANEN Jussi 127

7500

Libertine Seguros

ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor 952
BETANCOURT GOMEZ Carlos Alberto 45
BLANCO RODRIGUEZ David 300
BRESCHEL Matti 843
CAPECCHI Eros 137
CARDOSO Andre Fernando S. Martins 174
CARRARA Matteo 561
CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan 100
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose 0
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres 181
HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus 7
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka 126
KWIATKOWSKI Michal 87
MADRAZO RUIZ Angel 20
MARQUE PORTO Alejandro Manuel 48
MORENO BAZAN Javier 191
MUTO Pasquale 314
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw 426
PARDILLA BELLON Sergio 585
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
PLAZA MOLINA Ruben 353
RUJANO GUILLEN Jose Humberto 261
SALERNO Cristiano 223
SARMIENTO TUNARROSA Cayetano Jose 86
SINKEWITZ Patrik 340
SOLER HERNANDEZ Juan Mauricio 47
TONDO VOLPINI Xavier 653
TXURRUKA ANSOLA Amets 75
VICIOSO ARCOS Angel 297

7492

Mellow Velo

BOBRIDGE Jack 149
BOOM Lars 463
BOONEN Tom 777
CARUSO Damiano 200
CAVENDISH Mark 1241
CHICCHI Francesco 287
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose 0
CRETSKENS Wilfried 0
DOWSETT Alex 10
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres 181
EFIMKIN Vladimir 20
GAVAZZI Francesco 647
GRILLO Paride 0
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
JOLY Sébastien 0
KASHECHKIN Andrey 84
KENNAUGH Peter 75
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik 34
KEUKELEIRE Jens 479
KOREN Kristjan 236
KREDER Michel 282
KUMP Marko 134
LÖFKVIST Thomas 319
LUND Anders 193
MEYER Cameron 175
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
RATTO Daniele 150
SICARD Romain 174
STETINA Peter 99
ULISSI Diego 246
VAN GARDEREN Tejay 531
VAN HUFFEL Wim 0
VAN IMPE Kevin 15

7512

Moncoutie

BLANCO RODRIGUEZ David 300
CAVENDISH Mark 1241
FEILLU Brice 70
GERRANS Simon 140
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
IGNATIEV Mikhail 117
INTXAUSTI ELORRIAGA Beñat 443
KENNAUGH Peter 75
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik 34
KIRYIENKA Vasil 166
MAES Nikolas 159
MARTIN Daniel 883
MEYER Cameron 175
MONCOUTIÉ David 653
OFFREDO Yoann 304
OSS Daniel 390
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
PUJOL MUÑOZ Oscar 30
RASMUSSEN Michael 38
SASTRE CANDIL Carlos 574
SELLA Emanuele 354
TERPSTRA Niki 369
THOMAS Geraint 342
TXURRUKA ANSOLA Amets 75
VALLS FERRI Rafael 256

7499

Moondance

BLANCO RODRIGUEZ David 300
BOBRIDGE Jack 149
BOOM Lars 463
BOONEN Tom 777
BOS Theo 182
DEGENKOLB John 145
GERDEMANN Linus 322
GINANNI Francesco 290
GUSEV Vladimir 443
HAEDO Juan Jose 399
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
KONOVALOVAS Ignatas 180
KUMP Marko 134
LLOYD Matthew 206
MALORI Adriano 213
MARTENS Paul 463
MATTHEWS Michael 278
MOLLEMA Bauke 524
OSS Daniel 390
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
PHINNEY Taylor 217
SICARD Romain 174
STEEGMANS Gert 255
TERPSTRA Niki 369
VANSUMMEREN Johan 147
WALKER Johnnie 173

7504

Nvpacchi

ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor 952
BAKELANTS Jan 279
BENNATI Daniele 615
BOLE Grega 662
BOONEN Tom 777
CAPECCHI Eros 137
CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan 100
CATALDO Dario 230
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose 0
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres 181
GOMEZ MARCHANTE Jose Angel 44
GUSEV Vladimir 443
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion 32
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik 34
LANDA MEANA Mikel 47
MAASKANT Martijn 118
NAPOLITANO Danilo 223
OSS Daniel 390
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
PONZI Simone 86
RATTO Daniele 150
RUJANO GUILLEN Jose Humberto 261
SCHUMACHER Stefan 5
SIUTSOU Kanstantsin 121
SOLER HERNANDEZ Juan Mauricio 47
TAARAMÄE Rein 383
THOMAS Geraint 342
URAN URAN Rigoberto 410
VANDE VELDE Christian 90

7470

 

[Ferminal]

Pabryan

ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor 952
ARASHIRO Yukiya 295
BAKELANTS Jan 279
BARRY Michael 87
BASSO Ivan 984
BAUER Jack 91
BLYTHE Adam 406
BRAMMEIER Matthew 86
FEILLU Brice 70
GERRANS Simon 140
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
INTXAUSTI ELORRIAGA Beñat 443
LLOYD Matthew 206
LÖFKVIST Thomas 319
NUYENS Nick 220
PHINNEY Taylor 217
PINEAU Jérôme 210
SWIFT Ben 203
TAARAMÄE Rein 383
TALANSKY Andrew 76
THOMAS Geraint 342
TONDO VOLPINI Xavier 653
VANDE VELDE Christian 90
WEGELIUS Charles 62
WIGGINS Bradley 376

7441

Parrulo

BALLAN Alessandro 474
BLANCO RODRIGUEZ David 300
BOONEN Tom 777
BOS Theo 182
CARDOSO Manuel Antonio Leal 262
CUNEGO Damiano 659
DEGENKOLB John 145
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres 181
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
LÖFKVIST Thomas 319
MACHADO Tiago Jose Pinto 702
MATTHEWS Michael 278
NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel 385
OLIVEIRA Nelson Felipe Santos 150
PAULINHO Sergio Miguel Moreira 125
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
PHINNEY Taylor 217
RUJANO GUILLEN Jose Humberto 261
SELLA Emanuele 354
SICARD Romain 174
SOLER HERNANDEZ Juan Mauricio 47
STEEGMANS Gert 255
SZMYD Sylwester 270
URAN URAN Rigoberto 410
VALLS FERRI Rafael 256

7494

Rocksteady

HESJEDAL Ryder 1145
BAUER Jack 91
BOOKWALTER Brent 106
BUSCHE Matthew 194
DANIELSON Tom 316
FARRAR Tyler 1593
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
HORNER Chris 1141
HOWES Alex 4
JACQUES-MAYNES Ben 5
KING Benjamin 149
LACOMBE Keven 99
LEWIS Craig 80
MEIER Christian 100
PATE Danny 73
PETERSON Thomas 130
PHINNEY Taylor 217
PINFOLD Andrew 1
POPOVYCH Yaroslav 54
REIJNEN Kiel 304
ROLLIN Dominique 167
SELANDER Bjorn 10
STETINA Peter 99
TALANSKY Andrew 76
TUFT Svein 452
VAN GARDEREN Tejay 531
VANDE VELDE Christian 90
VEILLEUX David 21

7499

Roundabout

ARVESEN Kurt Asle 24
BENNATI Daniele 615
BOOM Lars 463
BOONEN Tom 777
CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan 100
CHAVANEL Sylvain 533
CLEMENT Stef 54
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose 0
CUNEGO Damiano 659
DE LA FUENTE RASILLA David 72
DESSEL Cyril 80
GUSEV Vladimir 443
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik 34
LE LAY David 85
LÖFKVIST Thomas 319
MENCHOV Denis 882
MOLMY Arnaud 80
MORABITO Steve 282
NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel 90
POSTHUMA Joost 99
POUX Paul 42
POZZATO Filippo 771
SOLER HERNANDEZ Juan Mauricio 47
VAITKUS Tomas 45
VANDE VELDE Christian 90
WILLEMS Frederik 43

6980

The Cobra


ARVESEN Kurt Asle 24
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald 1216
BOS Theo 182
BRUSEGHIN Marzio 123
CAVENDISH Mark 1241
CUNEGO Damiano 659
DOWSETT Alex 10
GERRANS Simon 140
GOSS Matthew 634
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
KASHECHKIN Andrey 84
KENNAUGH Peter 75
LANDIS Floyd 11
MASCIARELLI Francesco 66
NORDHAUG Lars Petter 51
PAUWELS Serge 87
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
PHINNEY Taylor 217
POZZATO Filippo 771
RICCO Riccardo 756
SOLER HERNANDEZ Juan Mauricio 47
STEEGMANS Gert 255
VAITKUS Tomas 45
VANDE VELDE Christian 90
WIGGINS Bradley 376

7471

The Hitch

BALLAN Alessandro 474
BLANCO RODRIGUEZ David 300
BOONEN Tom 777
BOS Theo 182
FEILLU Brice 70
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose 0
CUNEGO Damiano 659
DEIGNAN Philip 5
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres 181
EFIMKIN Vladimir 20
GOLAS Michal 141
GRIVKO Andriy 281
GUARNIERI Jacopo 232
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
HUTAROVICH Yauheni 370
KASHECHKIN Andrey 84
KWIATKOWSKI Michal 87
MADRAZO RUIZ Angel 20
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw 426
NOCENTINI Rinaldo 227
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
PHINNEY Taylor 217
RUJANO GUILLEN Jose Humberto 261
SELLA Emanuele 354
SICARD Romain 174
SOLER HERNANDEZ Juan Mauricio 47
STEEGMANS Gert 255
TXURRUKA ANSOLA Amets 75
URAN URAN Rigoberto 410
VALJAVEC Tadej 65
VALLS FERRI Rafael 256
WIGGINS Bradley 376

7337

Togo95

BOASSON HAGEN Edvald 1216
CATALDO Dario 230
DEGENKOLB John 145
DURBRIDGE Luke 37
FELLINE Fabio 288
GALLOPIN Tony 140
GERDEMANN Linus 322
GULDHAMMER Rasmus 101
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
IGNATIEV Mikhail 117
KIRCHEN Kim 38
KONIG Leopold 154
KREUZIGER Roman 839
LÖFKVIST Thomas 319
MATTHEWS Michael 278
MOLLEMA Bauke 524
OLIVEIRA Nelson Felipe Santos 150
OSS Daniel 390
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
PHINNEY Taylor 217
SAGAN Juraj 34
SAGAN Peter 932
STEENSEN André 54
STETINA Peter 99
STYBAR Zdenek 9
VAN GARDEREN Tejay 531

7475

Vonn Brinkman

APPOLLONIO Davide 315
AUGUSTYN John-Lee 40
BALLAN Alessandro 474
BASSO Ivan 984
BOOKWALTER Brent 106
CAVENDISH Mark 1241
CLEMENT Stef 54
DESSEL Cyril 80
FAIRLY Caleb 65
FEILLU Brice 70
FELLINE Fabio 288
GASPAROTTO Enrico 284
GRABOVSKYY Dmytro 104
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
HONDO Danilo 407
KISERLOVSKI Robert 368
KLIER Andreas 80
NOCENTINI Rinaldo 227
PEDERSEN Martin 72
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
POSTHUMA Joost 99
RICCO Riccardo 756
SASTRE CANDIL Carlos 574
SOLER HERNANDEZ Juan Mauricio 47
STEEGMANS Gert 255
TERPSTRA Niki 369
VANDE VELDE Christian 90

7760

Who dat

BOZIC Borut 370
BURGHARDT Marcus 289
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres 181
GRABSCH Bert 158
IVANOV Serguei 196
KARPETS Vladimir 424
KUSCHYNSKI Aleksandr 193
LADAGNOUS Matthieu 306
LÖFKVIST Thomas 319
MATTHEWS Michael 278
MEYER Cameron 175
MEYER Travis 235
MORABITO Steve 282
NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel 385
OLIVEIRA Nelson Felipe Santos 150
PHINNEY Taylor 217
PLAZA MOLINA Ruben 353
SICARD Romain 174
SZMYD Sylwester 270
TSCHOPP Johann 244
VALLS FERRI Rafael 256
VAN GARDEREN Tejay 531
VANTOMME Maxime 283
WEENING Pieter 295
WIGGINS Bradley 376
ZABRISKIE David 312

7252

 

[Barrus]

I can't believe no one else picked Marc de Maar You need some picks for a laugh

I was thinking about him, he was reasonably cheap and will return to Europe next season, so he could well improve quite a lot.

 

[who dat]

damn can't believe how much cap space i left must have miscalculated when i did my adding up. Could have added the likes of pellizotti and vande velde to my team.

Oh well better luck next time

 

[skidmark]

Argh. Seconded, Timmy's chagrin. Spent time thinking, compiling, hearing we had more than 3 weeks to tweak it, only to find after logging in 24 hours later that it's been 'closed' for hours all of a sudden.

I understand, but it's frustrating. I would be happy to enter proper names by Dec. 31st if it meant participating in this super awesome contest. It's true that now we can all see people's picks, including secret 'steals' they thought they'd had... but at the same time, the teams all seem wildly different so maybe it wouldn't be that much of an advantage to have seen them. Anyway, just saying if it opens up again, I'd be happy to participate. I'll probably follow the contest fanatically next year anyway because I love contests, cycling and numbers... but it's just always more fun to have your own horse in the race.

ETA: Kurtinsc and Ferminal and others who have spent time to help this out - nice work, guys! It's awesome to see things like this on the boards with a real community project from people who care about cycling, because it's so easy to spend most of our time bickering about favourite riders, etc. This makes me remember why I like these boards.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Have you kicked me out already?

edit. I see you havent, but surely its only a matter of time before Mellow Velo joins

Huh? No way. I often watch cycling on Dutch tv. I can't see the Aussies doing much in that department.
Btw: Why did you put Kaskechkin in your team, twice?

Mellow Velo is a hater of ACF, Cadel and the great team BMC!

I was going to say that I hope BMC have a stellar season, so that ACF can do well in this competition.
I now hope the DM give you a good clogging with their totally unbiased picks.

I see I'm 12 points over. If all of us who are a whisker over have to make cuts, then KvI seems to obvious drop out for me.

 

[Jan the Man]

hmmm i thought the entry was 31 December?? I had a team but was tweaking.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

First of all I want to say thanks to everyone who is participating, thanks for the many kind words and thanks to kurtinsc and Ferminal for trying to help a spreadsheet newbie out

I had never imagined that this would be the huge succes that it, so far, has turned out to be. Heck, I even stated that I might cancel the whole thing if there wasn't enough who wanted to participate.

Now the thread has more than 250 replies and more than 5200 views. I have recieved PM's from 33 people who wants to enter the competition and quite a few more have stated in this thread that they wanted to join also. People are discussing individual riders and the theory and mathematics behind their choices. Awesome!

When I first decided to start the game, I thought "well there shouldn't be too much work with this. I might be looking at 10, maybe 15, teams entering, which certainly is doable without putting too much time into it".
However after just 24 hours I could see where this was going with the many teams already registered, which is why I decided to create the "25 teams maximum" limit (which turned out to be 25+ teams maximum ).

Now I do feel sorry for those who had planned on participating and maybe already had created a team but just didn't send it in because of the deadline of december 31, which is why I have decided that I will again allow everyone to enter the competition if I manage to figure out something smart with the spreadsheet. I will contact Ferminal and kurtinsc who hopefully will spend a little time helping me out creating something that is easily manageable and easy to update.

Shouldn't I then have published the teams already entered? Probably not. But what's already been done, I can't change. If this means that a lot of new people joining will have some fun, for me, that's definately worth it. After all, it's just a game and the more people having fun with this, the better.

Will your "secret rider" be stolen by new teams entering? Perhaps. However, chances are that getting Cobo for free or buying Stybar or Dowsett for pennies won't be the deciding factor. I do, however, urge new teams entering not to "cheat" by simply chosing the most popular riders or stealing every single good idea. Again, this is a game, and games should be fun. What fun is it to do well in a virtual manager game if you simply copy other peoples choices?

Well enough with the ethics. I will start taking a closer look at the spreadsheet to see if I myself can figure it out or otherwise I will contact Ferminal and/or kurtinsc and then they'll hopefully help me out.

I hope everyone is OK with the decision.

Edit: wait, did i send Le Mevel in the corrected PM? He was there in the original team and is missing in the spreadsheet. drat, 510 points wasted

That's a mistake by me. You did indeed send Le Mevel in the corrected PM, and he will of course be added to your team.

Just for the record, the Izagirre I picked was Gorka, not Ion.

As far as I can tell, the Izagirre noted in the spreadsheet is Gorka and not Ion. If anything is wrong, please contact me again.

Hugo:

1) Have you recorded all the riders original values?
2) Will there be a leaderboard throughout the year of how everyone is going?

1) No. But hopefully the new and improved spreadsheet will include a colomn showing the 2010 value along with the 2011 value. I have a few ideas in mind - it's just my spreadsheet skills that limits the possibilities
2) That's one thing I'd definately like to create.

 

[Mellow Velo]

It is all looking great. Massive response.
Hopefully, a few of the PC "experts" (I am not one!) will indeed lend a hand and so more of the old timers can get involved.

I would make a suggestion, although it might be difficult to implement.
Would it be possible to "cap" new selections?
i.e. Say the new "cap" limit is set at 10. Once Cobo or Stybar etc, have been picked by 10 users, they become no longer eligible for further team selections?

 

[LukeSchmid]

I have made a team, actually finished it before the team limit was implimented but decided to let others, probably more active in the forum and definitely with lots more knowledge than me have a go. If things are opened again though I will submit my team as I had it when it was initially closed. I will disappoint ACF though, he will not be the only one with Jonathan Cantwell, he was one of the first I thought of. I think I have 5 riders not selected by anyone else, probably not a good thing.
Thank you Hugo Koblet and those helping him for all the work you are doing to get this going, well done

 

[joy118118]

It is all looking great. Massive response.
Hopefully, a few of the PC "experts" (I am not one!) will indeed lend a hand and so more of the old timers can get involved.

I would make a suggestion, although it might be difficult to implement.
Would it be possible to "cap" new selections?
i.e. Say the new "cap" limit is set at 10. Once Cobo or Stybar etc, have been picked by 10 users, they become no longer eligible for further team selections?

Nope, I have 4 riders below 10. not a good idea.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Okay... here are all the teams, in proper name, sorted alphabetically.

Some teams are over the limit - this may be an error in my data but can you please check manually and find where the error is.

Auscyclefan

ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor 952
BALLAN Alessandro 474
BLANCO RODRIGUEZ David 300
BOOKWALTER Brent 106
BOS Theo 182
CANTWELL Jonathan 47
CARDOSO Manuel Antonio Leal 262
DE LA FUENTE RASILLA David 72
EVANS Cadel 1619
FEILLU Brice 70
FURLAN Angelo 151
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
HOWARD Leigh 155
HUNTER Robert 186
IVANOV Serguei 196
KRISTOFF Alexander 406
LANCASTER Brett 78
MOINARD Amaël 185
O'GRADY Stuart 88
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
QUINZIATO Manuel 144
RENSHAW Mark 106
STANNARD Ian 110
SUTTON Christopher 184
TIRALONGO Paolo 101
VAN AVERMAET Greg 632
VANDE VELDE Christian 90

7207

You forgot to put in Steve Morabito(282) in mine

 

[auscyclefan94]

I was going to say that I hope BMC have a stellar season, so that ACF can do well in this competition.
I now hope the DM give you a good clogging with their totally unbiased picks.

I see I'm 12 points over. If all of us who are a whisker over have to make cuts, then KvI seems to obvious drop out for me.

Sorry!

This
Riders at 200 points can multiply their totals by 5. That gives you room for some of them too fail. Its like the the animal kingdom. The zebras cross knowing that a handful will get killed by the alligators. But the pack will survive.

You have 5 riders at 200. Say 2 of them fail. So you lose 100 each. But another 2 double their total, thats 200 gain each way, and the 5th triples his total. thats a 400 gain. So 400 + 200 + 200 - 100 = 700. 1700 return for a 1000 buy.
If however you choose Cav at 1200, to get the 700 point increase, Cav would probably have to win 7 stages of Tour + hold mv from first week all the way. Win MSR. win GW and win the worlds and win 5 stages each in Giro and Vuelta.


And thats a conservative score for 5 riders. Haussler can quintuple his total. That means a gain of 800. So i take my bad apples. Niemiec, Guarnieri Valls and Sella. Say Niemiec loses 300 (which he probably wont) Guarnieri loses 100, Valls loses 200 and Sella loses 100 (all pretty much worst case scenarios). The Haussler gain alone would offset the losses from my worst riders and given me 100 points extra.

So i get 1300 from my worst batch. While on the other side, my more solid riders are building up a bigger score.



That wasnt directed at you. I havent even seen your team yet ACF so i cant judge it. My point was my post included a lot of calculations making it look like im really competitive about it and the point is im not. For me the taking part is more important.



Libertine i think has got it wrong as far as Cq rankings go. I think he might have miscalculated them because he says Niemiec might get kom at Giro but kom at Giro is worth only 70 points. I dont know what hell win to get him the 460 he cost. I made the niemiec mistake too.

Anyway he has 9 riders overlaping with me.
9 of Ferminals guys overlap with mine. 10 of ingsve guys overlap with mine.
16 of Parullos 26 guys over lap with me. Thats 61% with Parullo.

So if these guys do well, i do well
Thanks acf

I think the top few teams will double but there will be some riders on most players teams which will have shocking seasons and will actually go backwards. A lot of people have ricco. He will probably go up but he could have a shocker, have a injury which screws up his season and then a lot of teams will lose a considerable amount. have not seen your team yet either!

acf was your team only $7,207?

Morabito was missing from the list that you posted as I said in the above post.

Hugo, I am on the computer a lot so I can help out with the competition throughout the year if you want?

 

[ingsve]

I think I spent too much time on this yesterday. This night I dreamt that Jussi Veikkanen won Omloop Het Nieuwsblad ahead of EBH. Very strange.

 

[The Hitch]

Huh? No way. I often watch cycling on Dutch tv. I can't see the Aussies doing much in that department.
Btw: Why did you put Kaskechkin in your team, twice?

Its a joke. I thought "who is the person who most antagonizes ACF" and your name flashed brightest of all.

Kashechkin 2nd time is supposed to be Marycz. I pmed Hugo with the correction soon after and hes in my list of "why i chose who i chose".

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Morabito was missing from the list that you posted as I said in the above post.

Hugo, I am on the computer a lot so I can help out with the competition throughout the year if you want?

Morabito will be added!

And thanks, I'll definately let you know if I need any help which I might

I think I spent too much time on this yesterday. This night I dreamt that Jussi Veikkanen won Omloop Het Nieuwsblad ahead of EBH. Very strange.

Haha! Yesterday, after anouncing this, I actually dreamt that I won the Ronde van Vlaanderen three years in a row! The strange thing - well I guess the whole dream was strange - was that the race eventually was decided on a course where you had to run around some tables in a class room 10 times.

 

[Anonymous]

Mine done.

CAVENDISH Mark 1241
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald 1216
SCHLECK Andy 1190
FEILLU Romain 735
HENDERSON Gregory 656
HOOGERLAND Johnny 452
URAN URAN Rigoberto 410
POELS Wout 266
ULISSI Diego 246
MOL Wouter 238
MEYER Travis 234
WALKER Johnnie 173
KENNAUGH Peter 75
FEILLU Brice 70
GALVIZ GARCIA Carlos Johan 67
VERMOTE Julien 31
KEIZER Martijn 31
SERGENT Jesse 31
MOAZZEMI GODARZI Arvin 31
BERCZ Patrick 31
ARVESEN Kurt Asle 24
DOWSETT Alex 10
KYER Julian 7
CHOI Seung Woo 2
VALENCIA OCAMPO William Andres 2
AGOSTINI Mauro 2
VAN DEN NOORTGATE Kevin 2
VAN DIERMEN Johnny 2
THURAU Björn 2
ALMURRAWI Tariq Murad Mohamed 2
BODIOT Alexis 2
MAI Nguyen Hung 2
IVO Dominik 2

and dont ask who the nobodies are.. all 21-23 year olds who show promise

 

[Jan the Man]

1. A. Schleck - 1190
2. I. Anton - 952
3. T. Boonen - 777
4. R. Ricco - 756
5. D. Bennati - 615
6. S. Modolo - 330
7. D. Blanco - 300
8. E. Gassparotto - 284
9. J. Rujano - 261
10. H. Haussler - 251
11. M. Lloyd - 206
12. B. Swift - 203
13. F. Durate - 181
14. J. Degenklob - 144
15. S. Gerrans - 140
16. S. Chainel - 137
17. C. Vandevelede - 90
18. P. Gretsch - 84
19. A. Kashechkin - 84
20. F. Massicarelli - 66
21. F. Pellizotti - 60
22. M. Kittel - 60
23. Y. Popovych - 54
24. S. Clement - 54
25. T. Vaitkus - 45
26. K. Hulsmans - 44
27. S. Haddou - 41
28. K. Seeldrayers - 40
29. E. King - 40
30. A. Dowsett - 10

Total - 7499

 

[The Hitch]

With the revelation that I had time after all, i have taken out the 3 riders i identified in my post at gmt 2. 00 hours as mistakes because i was in a hurry to meet new deadline, and replaced them with 3 random choices based entirely on their points i had left.

The 3 new riders are the following.
Haedo, Petrov, Gasparoto.

These 3 riders were between them chosen only 3 times by everyone else, and I hope that can eliminate any accusations of me cheating.

Here is the list

BALLAN Alessandro
BLANCO RODRIGUEZ David
BOONEN Tom
BOS Theo
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose
CUNEGO Damiano
DEIGNAN Philip
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres
EFIMKIN Vladimir
FEILLU Brice
GASPAROTTO Enrico
GOLAS Michal
GRIVKO Andriy
GUARNIERI Jacopo
HAUSSLER Heinrich
HAEDO Juan Jose
HUTAROVICH Yauheni
KASHECHKIN Andrey
KWIATKOWSKI Michal
MADRAZO RUIZ Angel
MARYCZ Jaroslaw
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw
NOCENTINI Rinaldo
PELLIZOTTI Franco
PETROV Evgeni
PHINNEY Taylor
RUJANO GUILLEN Jose Humberto
SELLA Emanuele
SICARD Romain
SOLER HERNANDEZ Juan Mauricio
STEEGMANS Gert
TXURRUKA ANSOLA Amets
URAN URAN Rigoberto

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Blanco - Libertine has told me this guy is quite good and has won the prestigious race Tour of portugal.

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. I'm not a Blanco fan, but he has a lot of talent that has been hidden away because of Puerto exile, and should see a good return on 300 points.

The tams who I personally think will do wel are Parrulo, Libertine Seguros, ingsve & ferminal from looking at their teams.

Just for the record, I only have one classics man - who's injured - and one sprinter. Who's a second tier sprinter. For Euskaltel.

also libertine i am surprised you chose andre cardoso. if he was on a pro tour team he would be on my team hands down. but he is stuck on a portuguese continental team even tho he has some huge talent(top 15 at the worlds when it was the only time on this season and prolly carrer that he rode a distance that long) so i can't see him get much more then that he already has.

No David Blanco on Tavíra. No David Bernabéu at Barbot. I have a feeling he could get a podium at A Volta, and also Blanco got small points for races like Santarém. Cardoso will be all over the Vuelta a Asturias imo too. At 124 points, you're hardly going to LOSE much with him now that he's no longer a domestique.

Libertine i think has got it wrong as far as Cq rankings go. I think he might have miscalculated them because he says Niemiec might get kom at Giro but kom at Giro is worth only 70 points. I dont know what hell win to get him the 460 he cost. I made the niemiec mistake too.

The thing is, he'll still be going around picking up mountains points and competing with the top guys at Coppi e Bartali, Settimana Lombarda and Trentino. He'll score more points for just finishing the Giro and maybe picking up a top 10 or two in stages than he would riding Asturias and other minor races that Miche do. Plus he'll have the chance to ride races like Tirreno-Adriatico for the first time; he could be useful in races like País Vasco, and will be motivated to do well in the Tour de Pologne. Lampre also always ride the Volta, he could make an adequate leader there (though Lampre don't tend to do well, they tend to soft pedal most of it and give it a go in the mountains preparing for the Vuelta and Worlds) - and then he could lead the Vuelta, feasibly. I'll be surprised if I don't break even on Niemiec. I may not make much of a profit, but I'll be surprised if I don't break even.

Ah, but Andre Cardoso rides for a Continental team not a Pro Continental team. That's a huge diffrence.

Yes, it is. But with the number of Spanish continental teams dwindling, the amount of .1 races in Spain that the Portuguese teams could go to may increase. And at 124 points for a guy who could win the Volta, I figured it was a risk worth taking. I wanted Hernâni Broco too, but because he did so well at the Volta and he hasn't been as consistently excellent as Andre I didn't risk it.

A PORTUGUESE CONTINENTAL TEAM(lol this was on purpose ) so that means he will only get to ride some "minor" spanish races. ofc without blanco i can see him just blowing the entire volta field into oblivion but still that only gave blanco some off 300 points. unless ofc and this would be awesomesauce if palmeires risort tavira gets invited to the vuelta. i bet he can keep up with the big guys in the montains. srsly the work he did for blanco on this volta was just freaking epic. i will also provide links tomorrow.

still as this is a game he is not a great bet

CC Tavíra can't be invited to the Vuelta. They can go to Asturias, Madrid, Castilla y León, Comunitat Valenciana, the Ruta del Sol, the Klasika Primavera and the GP Miguel Indurain though. If CC Tavíra get to do all of the Spanish domestic calendar in the absence of more Spanish teams, I could see him being the Niemiec of the Spanish calendar, consistently picking up good results but not stepping up a level.

I reckon I can get at least 250 points or so out of Cardoso. And that's doubling what he cost me.