CQ ranking

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TeamSkyFans said:
Mine done.

CAVENDISH Mark 1241
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald 1216
SCHLECK Andy 1190
FEILLU Romain 735
HENDERSON Gregory 656
HOOGERLAND Johnny 452
URAN URAN Rigoberto 410
POELS Wout 266
ULISSI Diego 246
MOL Wouter 238
MEYER Travis 234
WALKER Johnnie 173
KENNAUGH Peter 75
FEILLU Brice 70
GALVIZ GARCIA Carlos Johan 67
VERMOTE Julien 31
KEIZER Martijn 31
SERGENT Jesse 31
MOAZZEMI GODARZI Arvin 31
BERCZ Patrick 31
ARVESEN Kurt Asle 24
DOWSETT Alex 10
KYER Julian 7
CHOI Seung Woo 2
VALENCIA OCAMPO William Andres 2
AGOSTINI Mauro 2
VAN DEN NOORTGATE Kevin 2
VAN DIERMEN Johnny 2
THURAU Björn 2
ALMURRAWI Tariq Murad Mohamed 2
BODIOT Alexis 2
MAI Nguyen Hung 2
IVO Dominik 2

and dont ask who the nobodies are.. all 21-23 year olds who show promise ;)
I'm surprised you didn't choose Tim Kennaugh as well with all the space for cheap riders.
 
Alright.

All teams registered so far have now been put in alphabetic order and with their "real CQ name".

I suggest everyone to take a look and see if your team is the way it should be. It's a lot of work and it's almost inevitable that no mistakes will be made.

Also there seems to be some minor mistakes in the way the CQ points are added up. This means that some riders actually have a slightly different value than the one showing when looking at the rider. For some teams this means that their score actually is surpassing the 7500 limit. Those of you affected by this please check for any mistakes and then let me know the corrections so that the value doesn't exceed the 7500 limit.

The teams affected by this are:

auto de fé 7504
jens_attacks 7507
Mellow Velo 7512
Moondance 7504
Vonn Brinkman 7760 :)eek:)

The registered teams so far are:

auscyclefan94
auto de fé
Barrus
bicing
Bumeington
Contre la montre
deValtos
Eric8-A
Ferminal
hrotha
Hugo Koblet
ingsve
Jan the Man
jens_attacks
Jukebox
kurtinsc
Kvinto
Libertine Seguros
Mellow Velo
Moncoutie
Moondance
nvpacchi
Pabryan
Parrulo
Rocksteady
roundabout
Spider1964
The Cobra
The Hitch
Togo95
Vonn Brinkman
whittashau
who dat

And auscyclefan94: don't worry, Morabito has been added to your list just not in the uploaded document yet.

The list is here: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B7YnE-FpIwSiYzU5ODVkYjAtNmJkNC00YTFiLWEwNjQtYTM4YmU3NmY2NjQ2&hl=en&authkey=CM-5gvgL
 
Hugo Koblet said:
Alright.

All teams registered so far have now been put in alphabetic order and with their "real CQ name".

I suggest everyone to take a look and see if your team is the way it should be. It's a lot of work and it's almost inevitable that no mistakes will be made.

Also there seems to be some minor mistakes in the way the CQ points are added up. This means that some riders actually have a slightly different value than the one showing when looking at the rider. For some teams this means that their score actually is surpassing the 7500 limit. Those of you affected by this please check for any mistakes and then let me know the corrections so that the value doesn't exceed the 7500 limit.

The teams affected by this are:

auto de fé 7504
jens_attacks 7507
Mellow Velo 7512
Moondance 7504
Vonn Brinkman 7760 :)eek:)

The registered teams so far are:

auscyclefan94
auto de fé
Barrus
bicing
Bumeington
Contre la montre
deValtos
Eric8-A
Ferminal
hrotha
Hugo Koblet
ingsve
Jan the Man
jens_attacks
Jukebox
kurtinsc
Kvinto
Libertine Seguros
Mellow Velo
Moncoutie
Moondance
nvpacchi
Pabryan
Parrulo
Rocksteady
roundabout
Spider1964
The Cobra
The Hitch
Togo95
Vonn Brinkman
whittashau
who dat

And auscyclefan94: don't worry, Morabito has been added to your list just not in the uploaded document yet.

The list is here: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B7YnE-FpIwSiYzU5ODVkYjAtNmJkNC00YTFiLWEwNjQtYTM4YmU3NmY2NjQ2&hl=en&authkey=CM-5gvgL
Would you be able to make the very small adjustments posted above? Or since others seem to be helping somehow, let me do it.

Edit this is the list with points so you hopefully just have to paste it


BALLAN Alessandro 474
BLANCO RODRIGUEZ David 300
BOONEN Tom 777
BOS Theo 182
FEILLU Brice 70
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose 0
CUNEGO Damiano 659
DEIGNAN Philip 5
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres 181
EFIMKIN Vladimir 20
GASPAROTTO Enrico 284
GOLAS Michal 141
GRIVKO Andriy 281
HAEDO Juan Jose 399
HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
HUTAROVICH Yauheni 370
KASHECHKIN Andrey 84
KWIATKOWSKI Michal 87
MADRAZO RUIZ Angel 20
MARYCZ Jaroslaw
NOCENTINI Rinaldo 227
PELLIZOTTI Franco 60
PETROV Evgeni - 241
PHINNEY Taylor 217
RUJANO GUILLEN Jose Humberto 261
SELLA Emanuele 354
SICARD Romain 174
SOLER HERNANDEZ Juan Mauricio 47
STEEGMANS Gert 255
TXURRUKA ANSOLA Amets 75
URAN URAN Rigoberto 410
VALJAVEC Tadej 65
WIGGINS Bradley 376
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. I'm not a Blanco fan, but he has a lot of talent that has been hidden away because of Puerto exile, and should see a good return on 300 points.


Just for the record, I only have one classics man - who's injured - and one sprinter. Who's a second tier sprinter. For Euskaltel.
There you go! Didn't mean to be sarcastic about your favourite race. Was just having a bit of fun! Lighten up Libertine!

I was being serious about your team. I think it is a team that should see big improvements.
 
Hugo Koblet said:
Also there seems to be some minor mistakes in the way the CQ points are added up. This means that some riders actually have a slightly different value than the one showing when looking at the rider. For some teams this means that their score actually is surpassing the 7500 limit. Those of you affected by this please check for any mistakes and then let me know the corrections so that the value doesn't exceed the 7500 limit.
It could be that people have simpy read the point wrong but ut can also be that if you have the ranking sat at "current" ranking then it will also add any points that was scored during december 2009 from races that are still to be held in 2010. This can be the case if the rider rode for some small continental team that rode in asia for example in 2009.
 
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ingsve said:
It could be that people have simpy read the point wrong but ut can also be that if you have the ranking sat at "current" ranking then it will also add any points that was scored during december 2009 from races that are still to be held in 2010. This can be the case if the rider rode for some small continental team that rode in asia for example in 2009.
I have 8 riders (28.5%) in common with you Ingsve, the most of any team in the competition.
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Why have 18 teams got phinney in it? I personally don't see him doing overly much this year... He is very young.
it depends on how BMC wants to develop him. He can get points from TT and sprint and BMC is not strong enough in these aspects so that they could support TP in small races all out.If it is UCI World Ranking or VDS, there is some risks to pick him. But In CQ ranking, one can get a lot points from.1 +.HC even he is young. And considering TP said he wanted to focus on road next year, I think he is not a bad choice - this is also why i dont want to pick Leigh Howard and the Meyers. They all too focus on track.
 
auscyclefan94 said:
There you go! Didn't mean to be sarcastic about your favourite race. Was just having a bit of fun! Lighten up Libertine!

I was being serious about your team. I think it is a team that should see big improvements.
Sorry mate, I was having a bit of fun too, I should have put the :p or ;) smiley to show it more clearly - based on our debate over the Volta's relative worth in another thread.

FWIW - My team:

Igor ANTÓN - 952 - a big spend pick, but one with potential to match that or beat it if he can finally finish a Grand Tour he contends in. The surprise hit of the Spring, and the only man to decisively drop Contador all season unless you count Evans and Rodríguez at Flèche Wallonne.

Carlos BETANCOURT - 45 - at such a low cost it was worth the risk on a Colombian neo-pro, on the basis that he'll get to do a fair few decent races on Acqua e Sapone, and as a Girobio winner he has the potential for growth.

David BLANCO - 300 - after a few years in Portugal, Blanco has won his way back to the top level. His age will hold him back somewhat, but even if he only does reasonably, the number of big races Geox will go to compared to Palmeiras Resort-Tavíra means he's got a good chance of bettering this score.

Matti BRESCHEL - 843 - to tell the truth I'd forgotten about his injury, and so selecting him was a bit of brain-fade. However, I did need somebody for the cobbles since my riders are all a bit Mediterranean-facing in their race calendars.

Eros CAPECCHI - 137 - Lots of potential in this guy ever since he won the Euskal Bizikleta's last edition. And we all know what a fertile ground Liquigas is for blooding young talent. Lots of potential to double or triple this score.

André CARDOSO - 124 - with Blanco now gone and Marque moving on, Cândido Barbosa becoming ever less reliable for results, Tavíra will look to Cardoso for A Volta. With a few invites in smaller Spanish stage races, a good showing in August will help Cardoso to improve on this score.

Matteo CARRARA - 561 - Carrara has solidly accumulated results in moderately lumpy stage races; with Vacansoleil obtaining WorldTour status we could be seeing more of him next year - plus he'll be a useful hand for a stage win or a decent showing in the Giro.

Jonathan CASTROVIEJO - 100 - young Basque with a lot of potential, will probably ride some more senior races this year, after being thoroughly reasonable at recovering through week long events this year. He can climb and he can TT, and he can definitely improve on that score.

Juan José COBO - 0 - reunited with Gianetti, Cobo's annus horribilis with Unzué should be swiftly forgotten as a blip on a Saunier Duval-inspired career. And if not, it's not like I've lost anything, is it?

Fabio DUARTE - 181 - riding for a team that seldom races in Europe has left him a bargain; his amazing talent plus being on Geox - with Sastre on the wane and Menchov as hardly Valverde or Evans for contending all-year-round - should see him have plenty of opportunities to add points.

Jesús HERRADA - 7 - hugely talented neo-pro. He may not score big - Unzué does like to carefully shelter his youngsters - but unless he does a Cobo he'll outscore his 2010 score; I'd expect him to do at least some smaller ProTour races like Plouay or Eneco.

Gorka IZAGIRRE - 126 - young Basque who can sort-of-sprint; as a result he'll probably be stuffed into most flatter WorldTour races, and is the likely successor to Koldo Fernández.

Michał KWIATKOWSKI - 87 - supremely talented Pole, beloved of Eusebio Unzué, who was off the front almost daily in the Spanish spring stage races. He can climb, he can TT, just a shame that sponsorship concerns damaged his move to Movistar, and so he finds himself at Radioshack. Still, I guess we might get a few months of entertainment out of him before Bruyneel beats it out of him.

Ángel MADRAZO - 20 - quality young Spaniard who has been handled with kid gloves so far; he'll be 23 in 2011 and should finally be given the ball to run with in some races better suited to him. Has the potential to multiply this score by 5 or 10. Maybe even more given the talent he has, but I think his results will build rather than explode onto the scene Sagan-style.

Alejandro MARQUE - 48 - Spanish (but not Puerto) ITT specialist who has moved from one Portuguese team to another (Onda-Boavista this year). I expect him not to score big, but to get some more than passable tallies from the domestic calendar now that some of the riders that would demote him down the order are gone to the upper echelons (Blanco, Bernabéu, Plaza, Machado) or the naughty step (Guerra)

Javier MORENO - 191 - a constant accumulator of results who has been consistent. Now moves to Caja Rural, a smaller team where he'll have more chances to ride for himself, so potential to add a few.

Pasquale MUTO - 324 - now that Niemiec is gone and Baliani is going to be 37, Muto will be Miche's second in command to Schumi. Muto is another solid accumulator of points in the Italian domestic calendar and who likes going hunting mountains points.

Przemysław NIEMIEC - 426 - as detailed above, I expect to break even on Niemiec - he won't be the team's leader at the Giro or anything, but there are enough races he could lead, and he'll still be brilliant in the domestic Italian calendar.

Sérgio PARDILLA - 585 - and for the first time he's in the big leagues. Again it's a bit of a gamble like Niemiec, but with the might of Movistar behind him and the team having no fixed leader he will have a few chances to ride biggish races for himself and get points.

Franco PELLIZOTTI - 60 - at that price, he's a huge bargain as, like Cobo, you're not exactly losing much if he has no team, is banned, or whatever. And if he does ride... what an upside!

Rubén PLAZA - 353 - didn't ride much in the first half of the season, probably out of shock that he has never been banned or +ve. But two GT top 20s is pretty good for a first year back at the top, and again, no fixed leader means chances to ride for himself.

José RUJANO - 261 - if he can finally manage to harness his talent he'll be a steal.

Cristiano SALERNO - 223 - talented Italian who seems to be able to sniff the right break; with his team hunting a Giro invite after last year's close thing on the national calendar, he'll want to make an impact in the Coppa Italia.

Cayetano SARMIENTO - 86 - young Colombian who will be licking his lips at the Giro parcours. And with Garzelli another year older and Paolini gone, could he step up for Acqua e Sapone?

Patrik SINKEWITZ - 340 - all points scored from June onwards as he hadn't got a team until then. This means that he missed a major portion of the Italian calendar - which is well suited to him. He'll target A Volta again, after a long spring of races where he can accumulate good points, the pressure's off him now he has a team again.

Juan Mauricio SOLER - 47 - one of a very select handful of riders to have put Contador in difficulty in 2010 (the others being Andy Schleck, Igor Antón and Ezequiel Mosquera by my reckoning) in that fabulous stage of Castilla y León, we've had brief glimpses of the old Soler in between injuries. Again, at this price he's no great risk, and if he CAN bring back the old Soler, he's a steal.

Xavier TONDÓ - 653 - quite expensive, but will probably be the de facto Movistar leader at at least one GT, has recoverability, can win stages, likes picking up mountains points, and will be a terror in the early-season stage races. What's not to like?

Amets TXURRUKA - 75 - two broken collarbones derailed his Tour and what would have been a brilliant País Vasco. If they don't, he could easily double or treble this total, without taking his long overdue major stage win.

Ángel VICIOSO - 297 - that he has never been banned is even more shocking than Plaza, but he's collected solid results in every race he's been in. With Androni he'll be in more good points-paying races.
 
I doubt people will be "cheating" if they are influenced by the teams already posted. I think most people already had an idea anyway, just missed the cutoff point. Obviously if someone shares 20 riders with another it might look dodgy - but I think people can overthink it. Even knowing what everyone else has, I would only make a couple of changes (and mainly because I rushed my team)... my team is the best and I'm sticking by it :rolleyes:
 
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post my team just for fun

1 PHINNEY Taylor 217
2 VAN GARDEREN Tejay 531
3 GRETSCH Patrick 84
4 VIVIANI Elia 312
5 OSS Daniel 390
6 DEGENKOLB John 144
7 SICARD Romain 174
8 RICCO Riccardo 756
9 KUMP Marko 134
10 HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus 7
11 TANNER David 31
12 HOOGERLAND Johnny 452
13 SIUTSOU Kanstantsin 121
14 CARUSO Damiano 200
15 PONZI Simone 86
16 BOONEN Tom 777
17 VELITS Peter 614
18 BOS Theo 182
19 CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan 100
20 KWIATKOWSKI Michal 87
21 INTXAUSTI ELORRIAGA Beñat 443
22 DUARTE Fabio 181
23 STYBAR Zdenek 9
24 KASHECHKIN Andrey 84
25 HAUSSLER Heinrich 251
26 Matthew Michaels 258
27 RATTO Daniele 150
28 RASMUSSEN Alex 267
29  VANDE VELDE Christian 90
30 DE LA FUENTE RASILLA David 72
31 COBO ACEBO Juan Jose 0
32 FELLINE Fabio 288
33 ROCCHETTI Federico 8



total 7500
 
Libertine Seguros said:
André CARDOSO - 124 - with Blanco now gone and Marque moving on, Cândido Barbosa becoming ever less reliable for results, Tavíra will look to Cardoso for A Volta. With a few invites in smaller Spanish stage races, a good showing in August will help Cardoso to improve on this score.
Doesn't Cardoso cost 174 and not 124 or am I looking at the wrong Cardoso? Don't know if that would put you over the top or not?
 
ingsve said:
It could be that people have simpy read the point wrong but ut can also be that if you have the ranking sat at "current" ranking then it will also add any points that was scored during december 2009 from races that are still to be held in 2010. This can be the case if the rider rode for some small continental team that rode in asia for example in 2009.
Yeh, I forgot that I was using an old export from just after Lombardy (when the season really ends!) and came across a couple of discrepancies (Travis Meyer was 1 point over and Galviz Carlos now has his full name :confused: ). I've since updated my list with the "latest" CQ file.

ingsve said:
Doesn't Cardoso cost 174 and not 124 or am I looking at the wrong Cardoso? Don't know if that would put you over the top or not?

He is 174, just a typo I think.
 
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so am i good to send my team?

can't speak for others but i haven't properly looked at any of the other teams, and my team was finished yesterday anyway.
 
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Hey, 3 riders were missing from my team in the official list:

RENSHAW Mark 106
SASTRE CANDIL Carlos 574
WOLSKI Marcin 1

After looking at everyone else's team I have to say I'm kicking myself for forgetting about Cobo and not thinking more about Boonen. I am also questioning to myself why I didn't pay for a consistent 1500+ point scorer. In AFL fantasy teams you need to spend big on one or two guys because it always pays off.

Anyone wonder what DAOTEC's team would have been?

Thanks guys for letting my team in. :) If you need some help with the spreadsheet I can also volunteer. Just let me know what I can do.

My reference:

bicing said:
Damn I was making my team at work and just saw I missed the DL. I want to add my team here anyway for (hopefully) future bragging rights. ;)

albert serban
alessandro ballan
alex rasmussen
cameron meyer
carlos sastre
christian vandevelde
damiano cunego
daniel navarro
danilo di luca
emanuele sella
enrico gasparotto
franco pellizotti
heinrich haussler
igor anton
john gadret
jose rujano
juraj sagan
karsten kroon
kurt asle arvesen
marcin wolski
mark renshaw
marzio bruzeghin
matthew goss
nicolas roche
rein taaramae
sergio henao
taylor phinney
zdenek stybar
 
joy118118 said:
it depends on how BMC wants to develop him. He can get points from TT and sprint and BMC is not strong enough in these aspects so that they could support TP in small races all out.If it is UCI World Ranking or VDS, there is some risks to pick him. But In CQ ranking, one can get a lot points from.1 +.HC even he is young. And considering TP said he wanted to focus on road next year, I think he is not a bad choice - this is also why i dont want to pick Leigh Howard and the Meyers. They all too focus on track.
I tried to avoid the Aus track guys.

Trav and Cam will probably struggle to win the AUS Championships - which is where they got a lot of their points last year. They might hit a race like TdU, ENECO or Poland in form, but I think its a long shot. Both around 150-300 for 2011. Bobridge could be a bit more unpredictable, higher risk for higher reward. I think ACF could be on the money picking Howard, perhaps he's the best of the lot for 2011. Didn't race much this year but if he gets some road miles under his belt he could win a few more sprints and take 300+ points next year. I had Durbridge in my first team and he will outscore his 2010 season, but I didn't have the guts to pick an U23 who has a theoretical max around 150-200.
 
bicing said:
I am also questioning to myself why I didn't pay for a consistent 1500+ point scorer. In AFL fantasy teams you need to spend big on one or two guys because it always pays off.
I dont know how AFL fantasy teams work but on this a 1500 consistant scorer gets you nothing. THey cant really improve on their total. Hence they break even. (unless they get injured/ caught which screws you)

The aim is to try to get points on every thousand or so points you spend. If you buy a 1500 guy and he gets 1600 then thats a wasted 1500 points.

In business no one buys 1000 boxes of x to then sell it at the same price, or to make a few cents profit.

They buy 1000 boxes of x to sell at twice the price, then you get the profit.

ps this should be sticky. Barrus, do your thing ;)
 

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The Hitch said:
ps this should be sticky. Barrus, do your thing ;)
You do realise I am still p*ssed off at you, because you joined the ACF mafia, you know that right?

Anyway, I just hope that I break even at least :D It's the first time I ever did anything like this and certain of my choices perhaps weren't the best around. I just need to hope all the youngster I have improve over next year. And hope Keukeleire can do the same this year at the big races, as he did last year at the smaller Belgian races
 
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