Rupert said:
I am all for defensive riding. But a cyclist can do everything right and if someone runs over you from behind there is not much you can do about it. To not hold a driver responsible for causing death or injury is just wrong.
You didn't, and it doesn't. You are referring to a totally different incident.
Again:
Shootout Incident
Sorry, you weren't specific about which link you were talking about in your previous post, and I just went back to the first post of yours with a link to a bike crash I could find.
In this crash, it sounds like they were trying to share a lane that was too narrow to be safely shared. One of the main reasons to not do that is because it invites overtaking motorists to try to squeeze in next to you... from a long way back it may not be obvious to them that they will have to cross the center line in order to pass, and slow down if they can't. This is particularly true, of course, if they are distracted by a phone call or texting. This is from the account of the crash:
All was going well–we were riding 2 abreast in a rotating
paceline, not even occupying half of 1 lane on Mission, just south of Valencia.
As near as I can tell,
this is a google map street view of Mission just south of Valencia. No way is that lane wide enough to safely share, yet these guys were off to the right "not even occupying half of the lane". Rotating pace line on the flats... probably going 25-30 mph... right? Trying to share what looks like a 10 or 11 (12, max) foot lane at that speed? That's crazy
solo, much less in a group. In that situation you want to be clearly
taking the lane, so that motorists approaching from way behind can see that they will have to change lanes to pass, or slow down, and have enough time to plan accordingly, even if they're distracted. That's just being prudent.
Here, by the way, is another street view, looking north on Mission, showing a white pickup truck in the lane, and how little room there is in the lane. This is simply not a shareable lane. The only way I would ever move aside in this lane is when I have confirmed that the driver behind me has noticed me and slowed down, then, and only if there was no oncoming traffic at the time, I would move aside to encourage them to pass. Yeah, technically, it's their legal responsibility to pass me safely, but it's their legal responsibility to not open a door into my path either. Sorry, but I just don't trust my life and limb to complete strangers like that.
This is also from the account:
She never claimed that she
didn’t see us. She was “just trying to pass us.” She claimed oncoming
traffic, but I was off the phone with 911 before the first oncoming car arrived
(and 911 doesn’t just let you go…I talked to at least 2 dispatch people, maybe
3). If she was drunk, it wasn’t obvious. She did have her phone in her hand as
soon as she got out of the car, but we don’t really know if she was talking or
texting when she hit us.
Classic. This is probably a regular route for the driver, and she was yacking on the phone probably on "auto pilot". Some part of her subconscious probably noticed the cyclists up ahead, but didn't register as an alert because it appeared, at least from a ways back, that there was room to pass. If there was no oncoming traffic at the time she reached the cyclists, she probably would have naturally adjusted left into the oncoming lane, over the double-yellow, to pass, without even thinking about it. Happens all the time. If you asked her a minute later if she saw any bicyclists on her drive she probably would have answered "no". But in this case it appears what happened was that there was oncoming traffic preventing her from moving across the center line. The claim of oncoming traffic is probably true. Note that this is no excuse. But it explains what happened, and why. By the time she realized the space left over by the cyclists (more than half a lane) was insufficient, it was too late. Sounds like she hit the inside (left) line of cyclists.
Again, this is obviously
totally the fault of the motorist. However, the point of engaging in defensive practices is to avoid crashes even when it's totally the other person's fault. One of the least appreciated defensive traffic cycling practices is to
take the lane in various situations, including
whenever the lane is too narrow to safely share side-by-side with a vehicle.