Critérium du Dauphiné May 30-June 6 2021

[tobydawq]

He has always been good. Maybe inconsistent. But we could see this coming if he could put it together, and he did.

But that's the thing. No, he hasn't. Not in TTs. At least not in the last seven years.

 

[Escarabajo]

I feel like this thread needs to be moved to another forum to be able to discuss freely the results

If we are surprised by these results we should be surprised by many other results by many other riders. So no need to do that!

 

[Escarabajo]

Thomas trying to win a TT a la Gonchar and he failed. Only Gonchar can do that!!!

 

[luckyboy]

Lutsenko has finished in the top top 10 in a WorldTour time trial once in his career before today. It was 8th on the final stage of the Vuelta 7 years ago.

But yes now he wins this by 8 seconds over anybody else and "we could see this coming"... lol

 

[BlueRoads]

There are many surprising results here, but if you look at all of it, the picture changes a bit in my opinion.

We have Lutsenko, Izagirre, Vingegaard, Pöstlberger among the top10, while guys like Thomas and Bjerg underperformed.
I think for some results here the bikes or maybe a good recon, good preparation/ DS might be responsible. Obviously the route was indeed hard to judge, difficult to get a steady rhythm on and the end was very punchy.
So some just managed the route better than others. I don't think the results are a very good indicator of form or strength, just a hint.

 

[ice&fire]

I feel Vino has been sending letters around but nobody's gone public about it

 

[roundabout]

And that Vuelta time trial in 2014 had rain (or more rain) for the later starters IIRC

 

[gregrowlerson]

This Astana result gets more bizarre the more you think about it!

Why did Alexey never time trial well previously? In road stages he showed capacity to red line it for long stretches.

 

[AlfaLum]

Astana must have borrowed Jumbo's Time Trial coach after the Tour of the Basque Country. Thats the only possible explanation.

 

[Mayomaniac]

I guess a lot has to do with the route that features multiple short climbs, that probably helps a big engine who is rather puchy a lot against the TT specialists.
Also, since when are Wilier TT-bikes actually good?

 

[RedheadDane]

Astana must have borrowed Jumbo's Time Trial coach after the Tour of the Basque Country. Thats the only possible explanation.

Borrowed... or kidnapped.

 

[Escarabajo]

But that's the thing. No, he hasn't. Not in TTs. At least not in the last seven years.

Independent of any clinic references, He had a good day. He is just inconsistent. He is a hit and miss case. But he had the tools and the potential. So I am not really surprised TBH. He might lose time heavily in 3 days. That's him.

 

[Escarabajo]

There are many surprising results here, but if you look at all of it, the picture changes a bit in my opinion.

We have Lutsenko, Izagirre, Vingegaard, Pöstlberger among the top10, while guys like Thomas and Bjerg underperformed.
I think for some results here the bikes or maybe a good recon, good preparation/ DS might be responsible. Obviously the route was indeed hard to judge, difficult to get a steady rhythm on and the end was very punchy.
So some just managed the route better than others. I don't think the results are a very good indicator of form or strength, just a hint.

Ion Izagirre doing a good time trial should be ZERO surprise to everyone. Especially these type of TT.

 

[Tim Cahill]

He phoned his good friend, all time great time trialist Alexander Foliforov before the stage for some advice on cornering and gear ratio.

 

[BlueRoads]

Ion Izagirre doing a good time trial should be ZERO surprise to everyone. Especially these type of TT.

Doing a good one, yes, doing a better one than Thomas and Porte and getting second in a pretty good tt field? Surprising at least to me.

 

[Escarabajo]

Doing a good one, yes, doing a better one than Thomas and Porte and getting second in a pretty good tt field? Surprising at least to me.

Izaguirre is a stud on a good day!

 

[tobydawq]

Izaguirre is a stud on a good day!

Yes, three years ago... Check his recent time trial results and you would understand why people are surprised.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Izaguirre is a stud on a good day!

Sure, but even he hasn't ridden such a good TT in years.
We shouldn't be completely fooled by some riders beating Porte and Thomas though, cause they were clearly not doing too well in the second half.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

Give me arguments

Nope, it's just feelings

 

[markene2]

Laughing at you guys crying and indirectly saying "Nooooo he beat our british riders he must be a bigger fraaaaaud!!!"

Luts is Astanas most talented rider mared by bad luck the last few years, a former u23 world champ also, he won stop whining and get over it!

Vai Astana!!!

 

[RedheadDane]

Laughing at you guys crying and indirectly saying "Nooooo he beat our british riders he must be a bigger fraaaaaud!!!"

Luts is Astanas most talented rider mared by bad luck the last few years, a former u23 world champ also, he won stop whining and get over it!

Vai Astana!!!

Doesn't seem like there are that many implying he's a fraud. It's mostly just surprise... and in toby's case it seems like surprise at how few ITTs he's won.

 

[Pantani_lives]

I never thought I'd see the day when Superman López beats Tony Martin in a time trial.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Lutsenko will be the biggest threat to the Slovenians in the Tour.

 

[markene2]

Lutsenko will be the biggest threat to the Slovenians in the Tour.

No chance, not a gc rider for the highest mountains, to stocky. He Will probably win a stage, The Olympics on the other hand he is one of the favorites, course is suits him like a glove

 

[Tim Cahill]

Laughing at you guys crying and indirectly saying "Nooooo he beat our british riders he must be a bigger fraaaaaud!!!"

Luts is Astanas most talented rider mared by bad luck the last few years, a former u23 world champ also, he won stop whining and get over it!

Vai Astana!!!

Past 5 years:

You're right though, some big wins, here are the people he beat;