This pretty much.the sceptic said:He actually does sound a bit like a bitter, unrepentant doper there.
Unless he starts naming other riders and doctors im going to assume he is talking out of his ***.
This pretty much.the sceptic said:He actually does sound a bit like a bitter, unrepentant doper there.
Unless he starts naming other riders and doctors im going to assume he is talking out of his ***.
What??!!!! He's just bitter. Maybe even drunk.Michele said:There's a short preview video of tomorrow show on their fb page where Di Luca is asked "how many riders out of 200 during a Giro d'Italia dope?" he answered "90%, it's impossible to do a top10 without doping".
Indeed. Not hard to prove the last one wrong, doping has extremely different effects on different people and completely transforms the result sheet. It's just a typical dopers excuse that it doesn't "change anything" because everyone does it, but that's simply not true.Michele said:Cycling Pro posted the whole interview.
He states a few wrong things imho, like that doping isnt dangerous at all and that even without doping the results would be exactly the same.
Andrew Talansky @andrewtalansky
I feel genuine hatred towards Di Luca. He's a worthless lying scumbag making false statements that hurt the sport I love.
Andrew Talansky @andrewtalansky
Thankfully his statements are delusional. I wouldn't be in this sport if it was not possible to succeed at the highest level and do it clean
LOLthe sceptic said:I was wondering how long it would take before he would get crucified by the new clean generation.
Are we supposed to feel sorry for him ? Crucified ? He's the new Messiah for doping clarity is he ? He should go and do cycle tours with Ricco. Maybe he can become Italy's version of Tyler Hamilton.the sceptic said:I was wondering how long it would take before he would get crucified by the new clean generation.
But you see, Landis didn't go "everybody dopes crai crai". He gave evidence, named names, was actually hugely useful for the antidoping authorities. What Di Luca has done, at least in public, is worthless, easy to dismiss as "an old bitter doper who can't even conceive of cycling any other way" (hell, even to many of us cynics that's how he comes across).DirtyWorks said:What??!!!! He's just bitter. Maybe even drunk.
Hopefully he plays this as good as Landis did. The cycling federation will probably like to forget him.
Dan Coyle was just seen at JFK boarding a flight to Italy...movingtarget said:Are we supposed to feel sorry for him ? Crucified ? He's the new Messiah for doping clarity is he ? He should go and do cycle tours with Ricco. Maybe he can become Italy's version of Tyler Hamilton.
Why? I mean I get that it's not as credible without details, but it's not like it's surprising any of it.the sceptic said:He actually does sound a bit like a bitter, unrepentant doper there.
Unless he starts naming other riders and doctors im going to assume he is talking out of his ***.
Dr. Coyle was booked on the very same flight. His new study explaining how a certain Giro winner became a champion by improving his efficiency should be released to shoddy academic journals by the end of the year.Archibald said:Dan Coyle was just seen at JFK boarding a flight to Italy...
Actually Landis did in effect say everyone was doing it. Landis' attitude about doping seems to be about the same as DiLuca's.hrotha said:But you see, Landis didn't go "everybody dopes crai crai". He gave evidence, named names...
Not surprising no, and its possible hes right. I dont think he actually knows how much doping there is in the peloton though, so maybe he is guessing or just making it up to justify his own doping.red_flanders said:Why? I mean I get that it's not as credible without details, but it's not like it's surprising any of it.
Tyler Hamiltonmovingtarget said:...Maybe he can become Italy's version of Tyler Hamilton.
They must be related ! Tyler was last seen talking to Bulgarian weightlifters.sittingbison said:Tyler Hamilton
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Italy's version of Tyler Hamilton
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Quite likely he's right.... but as you and Hrotha say, unless he has evidence he has no credibility and will be dismissed.the sceptic said:Not surprising no, and its possible hes right. I dont think he actually knows how much doping there is in the peloton though, so maybe he is guessing or just making it up to justify his own doping.
If he has anything of use to anti-doping, maybe Italy's(??) NADO will find it useful. If anything, it would make it easier for the next guy to spit in the soup in Italy.hrotha said:...He gave evidence, named names, was actually hugely useful for the antidoping authorities.
"I can't believe it's not CERA!"sittingbison said:Tyler Hamilton
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Italy's version of Tyler Hamilton
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Who has, in your opinion, ever won a Grand Tour "clean"?ralphbert said:Imo, yes he was a great talent but as a one day rider of hilly, explosive type races. No way he would have won a GT clean.
In the old days they used trains and buses but also got caught. Mobile doping of a kind.VeloFidelis said:Who has, in your opinion, ever won a Grand Tour "clean"?