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A recent IT event and the motivational speaker was Sally Gunnell. She was rumoured to be on 5k for the 30 minute speech. Gunnell had attempted to break into TV but failed and was quietly dropped by the BBC. She did not go quietly and complained about her treatment:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-374122/BBC-undermined-I-quit-says-Gunnell.html.

She has been “reduced” to this sort of activity but 5k is not bad when the assembled nerds have seen their pensions trashed since the financial crisis of 2008.

Gunnell spoke about ‘marginal gains’ and quoted Brailsford and yes it was “pillows”. She also mentioned “Linford” as an inspiration and spoke about the Eastern bloc being on stuff back then at beginning of the talk, promising to get back to the topic but never did.

What she did address was nutrition and developing a team around her. It was this team of “nutritionists” which accounted for her dramatic improvement at the age of 26.

There was a failure to address how she beat a demonstrably dirty Soviet bloc athlete Tatyana Ledovskaya into fourth place in the 1992 Olympic final. Ledovskaya had won a gold in the 4 x 400 relay in 1988 in a WR which still stands. 1992, a year in which Gunnell missed an out of competition test.

Gunnell’s 1993 WR is the oldest in the top 10 fastest performances of all time - still there at number eight. Above her a Jamaican, two Russians, four Balco Americans with plenty of East Europeans below.

The take away from this event remains however that a thousand British IT “logicians”, all on trashed pension plans, were listening to this crap.
 
So here's what happened.

June 6, 2018 ,- DCO attempts to test Coleman and finds he failed to update his Whereabouts Filing to accurately reflect his location

January 16, 2019 - missed test

April 26, 2019 - missed test

That's three strikes in twelve months, says USADA. Foul!

Oh no it isn't says Coleman's lawyers, it's three strikes in thirteen months. No foul.

Say what?, says USADA.

It's three strikes in thirteen months, says Coleman's lawyers.

Get the hell outta here, says USADA, how are you counting 13 months between June and April?

Because, says Coleman's lawyers, the June whereabouts data should have been filed Aoril 1, the start of the relevant quarter. Aoril 1 2018 to April 26 2019, thirteen months, rounded up.

Excuse us while we go read the rules, says USADA.

USADA goes and reads the rules.

Good point, well made, says USADA. Case dismissed. Move along now, nothing to see here.
 
And now Coleman is calling for USADA's hashtag sorry squad to apologise:
In a lengthy video posted on YouTube ahead of the world championships in Doha, Coleman said the charge had damaged his reputation as a clean athlete and he had foregone over $150,000 in potential earnings to fight it.

“I can afford a lawyer and have the best people defending me but a lot of people don’t make a lot of money and if you’re a lower name you might get run over by USADA,” he said.

“I feel you can’t put a price on the fact I have to deal with this situation ... and the smear of my reputation.”
And, of course, there's the line that never grows old:
“I’m tested 30-40 times a year. It’s a crazy amount of times."
 
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And now Coleman is calling for USADA's hashtag sorry squad to apologise:
And, of course, there's the line that never grows old:
USADA should apologize, it appears that Coleman had calculated that he should have been able to dope freely again until he had missed another test - the first of his missed tests should have gone off his record already ;)

Coleman should be tested 300-400 times a year from now on, not 30-40, if any believability is to be maintained

Somehow the American excuses are always acceptable, remember Will Claye and the contaminated beef last year?
 
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Are antidoping agencies like USADA having full time and paid positions or they are volunteers only w/o any salaries? It's clear that they do not understand their rules so either they are not caring much or are not capable of. You cannot expect to effectively fight the doping in such circumstances.
 
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Rules which are poorly written can be interpreted opposite to intentions, I agree. And we are not talking about laws with many interrelations with oter laws where something might be overlooked. We are talking about simple control process. USADA is to blame, however limited experience I may have, not comparable to your wide knowledge in every area.
 
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Kenya is in trouble again. This time german channel ZDF claims they have footage of two athletes ready for the world championships getting EPO shots:

 
Kenya is in trouble again. This time german channel ZDF claims they have footage of two athletes ready for the world championships getting EPO shots:

im tired of the German media going after everyone except their own, especially their big stars- Football.
 
Well, Salazar has a 4 year ban...
Had to google it because I hadn't heard of it yet, but this pleases me very much.

Coaching Legend Alberto Salazar Gets 4 Year Doping Ban

Coaching Legend Alberto Salazar Gets 4 Year Doping Ban
Huge news in the middle of Worlds



With Nike's money behind him I'm sure it was very difficult, but glad they finally took Salazar down. (I have no doubt the athletes he had coached were doped up, but that's a different story for a different day.)

On a sidenote - I live in "TrackTown", Oregon , can't wait to read the Oregon news and see in how much denial the locals are.
 
Well, Salazar has a 4 year ban...
Now, many people, not specifically me, would see that as looking quite bad for Mo Farah. Some people might look at his sudden improvement under Salazar as suspicious. Again, not accusing him of doping, but all I am saying is that some people out there might believe it.

I've watched enough kwasi kwarteng interviews now to have nailed this method of heavy-implication-but-never-accusation.
 
Now, many people, not specifically me, would see that as looking quite bad for Mo Farah. Some people might look at his sudden improvement under Salazar as suspicious. Again, not accusing him of doping, but all I am saying is that some people out there might believe it.

I've watched enough kwasi kwarteng interviews now to have nailed this method of heavy-implication-but-never-accusation.
I think one would have to seriously suspend disbelief to think Farah was clean at this point. Frankly at any point, but now?
 
Good that FINALLY Salazar was suspended. The bad is that none of his athletes have been busted, when the chances of being on drugs under his 'guidance' are pretty high, starting with Britain's darling Mo...Mo struggled to just make finals, then when he did, he was easily beaten by many of his rivals. On comes 2011 and he's a world beater. He toyed with the field. He ran at the back, he would sprint to the middle, then fall back, and then seemingly with ease run to the front and cover moves the rest of the way, then outkick his rivals, starting as early as 600 m from the finish. Really wish he is busted one day. Likewise his buddy, Rupp. There was no 'grey area' or 'marginal gains,' Salazar's athletes were doping. Nike, as always, protects their athletes (investments).

In regards to the World Championships going on right now in Doha, it's disgusting to see Coleman, someone who missed three tests but because of some ridiculous 'technicality' he gets to compete in Doha and beyond. And what about ol' Justin Gatlin? 37 years old and still sprinting for medals. Where is the savior of clean sport Travis Tygart? Is he going to say something, or is he more concerned with what the Russians are doing (or aren't doing)? Hypocrites all around.
 
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I'm just catching up with the LetsRun message board now, this is so huge, this will be hours' worth of reading entertainment! (Am not sure if I'm allowed to link to other forums, so will forego it for now.)

It'll be interesting to see what happens to the Nike Oregon Project, Salazar basically is the Nike Oregon Project. Not to directly implicated them because that's a different discussion, but some of the former and current members include (and I'm borrowing this list from the LetsRun forum):

List of NOP athletes:

United States Galen Rupp
United States Jordan Hasay
United States Shannon Rowbury
Japan Suguru Osako
United States Craig Engels
United States Clayton Murphy
United States Eric Jenkins
Netherlands Sifan Hassan
Ethiopia Yomif Kejelcha
United States Donavan Brazier
Germany Konstanze Klosterhalfen
Australia Jessica Hull

Former members

United Kingdom Mo Farah
Canada Cam Levins
United States Dorian Ulrey
United States Tara Erdmann
United States Luke Puskedra
United States Dathan Ritzenhein
United States Mary Cain
United States Treniere Moser
United States Kara Goucher
United States Adam Goucher
United States Matthew Centrowitz, Jr.

Also former:

Alan Webb
Amy Yoder Begley
Jackie Areson
Josh Rohatinsky
 
Now, many people, not specifically me, would see that as looking quite bad for Mo Farah. Some people might look at his sudden improvement under Salazar as suspicious. Again, not accusing him of doping, but all I am saying is that some people out there might believe it.

I've watched enough kwasi kwarteng interviews now to have nailed this method of heavy-implication-but-never-accusation.

Fancy Bears documents showed Farah was under suspicion by IAAF in 2015-16 testing programme, but later tests led them to think he was clean.
 
Happy with this. I remember watching Farah and Rupp smoking Kenyans (with their own 'track'record) and Ethiopians in the same race. But this news needs to be the start, not the end. I actually completely ceased watching athletics as I consider it a complete joke, including very much in comparison to cycling.

Embarassing for UK media as commentator Steve Cram, who is rightly so indignant about Gatlin, is defending Farah to the absolute hilt, saying Farah shouldn't be judged by his association with Salazar and is a "great champion".

Nothing to see here!
 
Happy with this. I remember watching Farah and Rupp smoking Kenyans (with their own 'track'record) and Ethiopians in the same race. But this news needs to be the start, not the end. I actually completely ceased watching athletics as I consider it a complete joke, including very much in comparison to cycling.

Embarassing for UK media as commentator Steve Cram, who is rightly so indignant about Gatlin, is defending Farah to the absolute hilt, saying Farah shouldn't be judged by his association with Salazar and is a "great champion".

Nothing to see here!
Yep, Cram's being sticking the boot into Coleman as well as Gatlin . No doubt he'll be blowing smoke up Saint Dina's rear tonight.
 
Happy with this. I remember watching Farah and Rupp smoking Kenyans (with their own 'track'record) and Ethiopians in the same race. But this news needs to be the start, not the end. I actually completely ceased watching athletics as I consider it a complete joke, including very much in comparison to cycling.

Embarassing for UK media as commentator Steve Cram, who is rightly so indignant about Gatlin, is defending Farah to the absolute hilt, saying Farah shouldn't be judged by his association with Salazar and is a "great champion".

Nothing to see here!
Heh, I moved away from following athletics some years ago because of all the doping and have moved toward cycling, and you know what? It feels just like home here. :tearsofjoy:

There are so many parallels and so many familiar figures playing in this track and field drama - Nike, Tygart, and even Lance is mentioned. Of course, Salazar and Phil Knight are attached at the hip, so removing Salazar's name from a building that had been dedicated to him won't be as easy as removing Lance's name from his respective building. The only thing missing now is a Salazar interview with Oprah...

I don't believe it's behind a paywall, but, I think this article sums up the whole circus fairly well. https://www.registerguard.com/sports/20191001/suspicions-among-former-athletes-led-to-alberto-salazars-downfall

Btw., it's hard to shock me these days, but Salazar rubbing testosterone gel on his own son as an experiment I find truly perturbing. I'm sure the son was already an adult (at least I hope to hell he was) and could make his own decisions, but the whole thing still gives me the heebie-jeebies.
 

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