Doping in Austria

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So where is the difference? They all raced other races this year, but not the Giro. They fear a Valverde situation? I doubt that the Italian officials have access to the blood bags and the DNA. If so, why should only Italy test them?
 
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Mayomaniac said:
So nearly all the Austrian cyclists who were on the provisional Giro startlist are no longer racing the Giro, I hope that it has nothing to do with the investigation. Zoidl, Pernsteiner, Konrad and Mühlberger all got pulled from the startlist.
Pernsteiner wasn't selected by Bahrain.

Konrad was always supposed to do the Tour this year (but was for some reason on the Procyclingstats startlist) as co-leader with Buchmann.

Zoidls big season target is the Tour of Austria with preparation in California (https://www.radsportverband.at/index.php/aktuelles/radsport-news/strasse/4392-riccardo-zoidl-will-2-rundfahrtssieg) as announced on the 25.04.

Don't know about Mühlberger but was he ever intented to go to the Giro?

Anyway, i really don't think there is any link to Erfurt. Especially not with the Bora guys. Not because i would put my hand in fire for them (would be stupid in cycling) but because i think they wouldn't use some shady and already tainted doctor like Schmidt.
 
I think it's just people looking at PCS Startlist changes and noticing 4x Austrian's were on provisional Giro startlist and assuming they're now not racing Giro because of Operation Alderlass. Not very clever, considering many of the names on PCS list for Giro date back to January and March and there's been 40 other riders removed from start list anyway.
 
samhocking said:
I think it's just people looking at PCS Startlist changes and noticing 4x Austrian's were on provisional Giro startlist and assuming they're now not racing Giro because of Operation Alderlass. Not very clever, considering many of the names on PCS list for Giro date back to January and March and there's been 40 other riders removed from start list anyway.
Yes, it's probably just a coincidence.
 
I think so and other factors too. One rider is sick still from Romandie. Another is already in California as is Moscon now. The third rider announced he's all in for Tour long before withdrawn from Giro provisional list set in January and the 4th seems to be on same race program as him too to race Tour. This is the week, most teams add/drop and announce the final Giro team, not in January to March
 
samhocking said:
I think so and other factors too. One rider is sick still from Romandie. Another is already in California as is Moscon now. The third rider announced he's all in for Tour long before withdrawn from Giro provisional list set in January and the 4th seems to be on same race program as him too to race Tour. This is the week, most teams add/drop and announce the final Giro team, not in January to March
Yes, thats essentially my post :D
 
Koren (at Giro), Durasek (at California) and Bozic are linked with Aderlass now.

Hondo said he contacted Schmidt via Croatian and Slovenian phone numbers. Bozic and Koren are Slovenian, Durasek is Croatian..

Gazzetta print article says there are "around 10 riders on the cards, not first class" (E nelle carte ci sono anche una decina di corridori, non di prima fascia.)
 
TBM:
"Today we have been notified by UCI about the potential Anti-doping rule violation by two members of our Team, rider Kristijan Koren and Sports director Borut Božič. The alleged violations relate to the 2012 and 2013 season.
The Team strictly advocates zero-tolerance doping policy and has therefore provisionally suspended both members concerned.
We would like to stress that both cases relate to the 2012 and/or 2013 seasons. The Team always carries out a thorough medical checks (including biological passport check) of any new signed rider.
The Team will not comment this case until the formal proceedings are final and binding."

http://teambahrainmerida.com/team-bahrain-merida-announcement/
 
Alejet also being involved if his leadout man Hondo is involved kinda makes sense. I guess RAI will need to find a replacement because of the media buzz right now, even if Garzelli and Ballan are still working for them.
 
So Bahrain Merida are having a really tough time - doping scandal and no Nibali next year. Old s**t as well which BM are suffering for.
If Virenque can work on Eurosport, then Petacchi should be alright on RAI.
 
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TourOfSardinia said:
AleJet Petacchi (currently commentating on the Rai) denying wrong doing at Milram:
... accused of having recourse to the doping treatments of doctor Mark Schmidt:
"I didn't even know he was a doctor at Milram when I was running. I've never had a transfusion "
from the Gazzetta in Italian here
https://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/14-05-2019/doping-petacchi-operazione-aderlass-lui-si-difende-non-so-perche-compaia-mio-nome-3301610941086.shtml
Perhaps he was confused with another Alejandro Petacchi, world-beating sprinter?

This particular denial strains credibility even more than most, for some reason.
 
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Bolder said:
TourOfSardinia said:
AleJet Petacchi (currently commentating on the Rai) denying wrong doing at Milram:
... accused of having recourse to the doping treatments of doctor Mark Schmidt:
"I didn't even know he was a doctor at Milram when I was running. I've never had a transfusion "
from the Gazzetta in Italian here
https://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/14-05-2019/doping-petacchi-operazione-aderlass-lui-si-difende-non-so-perche-compaia-mio-nome-3301610941086.shtml
Perhaps he was confused with another Alejandro Petacchi, world-beating sprinter?

This particular denial strains credibility even more than most, for some reason.
Just now on Rai AntePrima GIRO - AleJet being substituted for un paio di giorni by Stefano Gazzelli
 
On German Eurosport they were just talking about why people still think it's possible to dope without getting caught...because of a scandal where not a single rider was tested positive...
Yeah, I wonder why :eek:
 
Gigs_98 said:
On German Eurosport they were just talking about why people still think it's possible to dope without getting caught...because of a scandal where not a single rider was tested positive...
Yeah, I wonder why :eek:
Even average domestiques still finding it cost-effective to be transfusing
 
Hardly any Germans named in these reports since they first came out during Seefeld three months ago. Not buying the idea that no Germans, especially no high profile German athletes are not involved.
 
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TourOfSardinia said:
Bolder said:
TourOfSardinia said:
AleJet Petacchi (currently commentating on the Rai) denying wrong doing at Milram:
... accused of having recourse to the doping treatments of doctor Mark Schmidt:
"I didn't even know he was a doctor at Milram when I was running. I've never had a transfusion "
from the Gazzetta in Italian here
https://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/14-05-2019/doping-petacchi-operazione-aderlass-lui-si-difende-non-so-perche-compaia-mio-nome-3301610941086.shtml
Perhaps he was confused with another Alejandro Petacchi, world-beating sprinter?

This particular denial strains credibility even more than most, for some reason.
Just now on Rai AntePrima GIRO - AleJet being substituted for un paio di giorni by Stefano Gazzelli
Edit: Never mind.
 
luckyboy said:
Maybe a new thread for this? Linked to Aderlass

UCI has been investigating Slovenian riders and staff even before Aderlass, and Bahrain-Merida's managing director is under investigation...

6 Slovenians on the team, 32 professionals, most have some connection with him.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bahrain-meridas-milan-erzen-under-uci-investigation-for-doping-links/
And the Le Monde report said Aderlass investigators gave CADF the information that Erzen contacted Dr Schmidt via intermediary to buy a blood centrifuge...

It feels like we might only be at the start of this, given his links to Bahrain and basically all of Slovenian cycling.
 

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