also the Giro, Tour de France, Turkey, California and Poland were mentioned for 2018. At least one of the already convicted riders (Durasek, Bozic, Koren, Preidler, Denifl) participated in each of those races though, so it not necessarily means that others were involved.So as i understand it they (the Seppelt Boys and the Authorities) already know their names for quite some time, but no consequences so far for the involved riders. They also said that there is a swiss pro who doped (not specified IF he is a cyclist though) and Mark Schmidt doped riders at the Tour de Suisse und Tour de Romandie.
Curious how Seppelt has access to all this information and seemingly no other journalist does. Really have to wonder what his actual role is, and why he is so quiet on German doping.So as i understand it they (the Seppelt Boys and the Authorities) already know their names for quite some time, but no consequences so far for the involved riders. They also said that there is a swiss pro who doped (not specified IF he is a cyclist though) and Mark Schmidt doped riders at the Tour de Suisse und Tour de Romandie.
well, Schmidt was running a less-than-10k-a year kind of doping program. Cheap, and probably outaged.Where are the high profile names? Where are the Germans? A clinic in Germany led by a German doctor and no German names? I call BS on that. This may turn out to be weaker than Operation Puerto, and that's saying something.
The UCI suspicion index that was leaked in 2011 had Klöden and Tony Martin scoring a 7 out of 10 and Gerdemann and Knees a 6 out of 10. Next highest rider on either list above was Ciolek on a 3 I believe. Obviously Hondo scored an 8 out of 10 but he’s already confessed.two more German cyclists were part of this. Both did the Tour de France in the past, and one of them is still active
Der ARD-Dopingredaktion liegen Chat-Auszüge von Sportlern und dem Erfurter Sportmediziner Mark Schmidt vor. Außerdem neu: Zwei weitere Deutsche waren Teil des Doping-Netzwerks. DOSB-Chef Hörmann fordert bereits "drakonische Strafen".www.sportschau.de
The doping treatments happened in 2012 and 2013:
Die Staatsanwaltschaft hat gegen den Erfurter Arzt Mark S. Anklage wegen Doping von Athleten erhoben - darunter auch zwei hochkarätige deutsche Radrennfahrer. Die Chat-Protokolle zwischen S. und seinen Kunden zeigen, wie akribisch die Täuschungen abliefen, so Doping-Experte Hajo Seppelt im Dlf.www.deutschlandfunk.de
So we can probably strike out the "youngsters" who were still riding on CT level in 2013. That leaves us with these still active riders who did the Tour at least once:
Fröhlinger, Johannes (to retire next week)
and these who (more or less) recently have retired from cycling:
(retired in 2019) Kittel, Marcel
(retired in 2019) Wagner, Robert
(retired in 2017) Gretsch, Patrick
(retired in 2016) Ciolek, Gerald
(retired in 2016) Gerdemann Linus
(retired in 2016) Nerz, Dominik
(retired in 2016) Voss, Paul
(retired in 2016) Wegmann, Fabian
(retired in 2015) Förster, Robert
(retired in 2015) Schumacher, Stefan
(retired in 2014) Sinkewitz, Patrik
(retired in 2014) Voigt, Jens
(retired in 2013) Fothen, Markus
(retired in 2013) Grabsch, Bert
(retired in 2013) Hondo, Danilo(confessed already)
(retired in 2013) Klier, Andreas
(retired in 2013) Klöden, Andreas
(retired in 2013) Schröder, Björn
(retired in 2012) Niermann, Grischa
if the information from the ARD are correct, one from each list was a customer of Dr Schmidt.
Flying as in taking anytghing known to men not just blood doping?I doubt the riders are (former) stars, judging by the way the article was written and the focus on "prestigious ProTour teams" rather than on the two riders themselves.
Also, I doubt Martin was on some run-of-the-mill doping program back in those days. He was flying back then.
This whole case is likely small potatoes.
It's a bit like when Bernhard Kohl said nobody could compete without doping. How would he know? After all, by his own admission he never tried to.
I'm sorry, but then he shouldn't have gotten any contracts.
It's… kinda sad really. Seems like there are two possibilities:It's a bit like when Bernhard Kohl said nobody could compete without doping. How would he know? After all, by his own admission he never tried to.
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