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Even with women, there have been a lot of different Russian women in their teams over the years. They just have been mostly stuck to placings between 10-30. Meanwhile the same Norwegian top women have monopolized their world cup slots for years and years.
Salt Lake City 2002 really must be the Olympic games that had 9 gold medals won by athletes with suspicious profiles - just looking at immediately or later caught athletes, Muhlegg x 3, Veerpalu, Danilova, Tchepalova, Lazutina, and Sachenbacher on the relay team already makes it 8.
You can take your pick from Skari, Hetland, Belmondo, Aukland, Estil, Skjeldal, Alsgaard, Henkel, Bauer or Kunzel for the remaining one, I personally think there are several candidates.
Talking about men, I'm pretty sure Norway and Russia have been the top two nations in the number of top level athletes. It may even be that there have been more Russian men with top level results - say, top 15 in world cup - than Norwegian men, due to more variance in the national team membership because of certain reasonsbambino said:ToreBear said:Python the rate is 12% of norwegians had 1 or more suspicious samples. Since there should be a lot of Norwegians in the database, likely more than any other country there will likely be more individual norwegian skiers that are pinged, but the rate is still the same.
The impressions one sometimes gets in this forum is that norway should have rates more in the range of Russia.
Yeah this is fairly simple math. 16 Norwegians with abnormal result(s) represents 12% of all Norwegians, so there is around 133 Norwegians in the database.
More stricking to me is the relatively low number of Norwegians compared to other nations in the database. I.e using same math there are 150 Russians, 115 Finns and 92 Swedes in that database.
My suspision of some countries getting tested more frequent than others is getting stronger given Norway has definitely had most athletes in top level from all nations by far, probably followed by Sweden.
Even with women, there have been a lot of different Russian women in their teams over the years. They just have been mostly stuck to placings between 10-30. Meanwhile the same Norwegian top women have monopolized their world cup slots for years and years.
Salt Lake City 2002 really must be the Olympic games that had 9 gold medals won by athletes with suspicious profiles - just looking at immediately or later caught athletes, Muhlegg x 3, Veerpalu, Danilova, Tchepalova, Lazutina, and Sachenbacher on the relay team already makes it 8.
You can take your pick from Skari, Hetland, Belmondo, Aukland, Estil, Skjeldal, Alsgaard, Henkel, Bauer or Kunzel for the remaining one, I personally think there are several candidates.