These relevations are pure Gold. Is there any Chance more can come out of this. Will we get names?
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python said:the latest i heard or read is that usiougov is NOT cleared by the ioc to compete yet.
there was a motion from the russian olympic committee that the ioc by 2 feb (yesterday) include him and the several others acquitted by cas into the participants list. i do not think the ioc heeded it.n stead, threy announced that on 5 feb (?) there will be a special session re. the cas acquitted list. may be ustiuogov will be discussed too.
also, per their lawyers, ustiogov and several others in a separate letter requested the ioc for the specific reasons they are banned from the olympics DESPITE NEVER being suspected of doping.
true to their claim of utter transparency, the ioc simply ignored it.
the rumour said he was banned over some spread sheet (a data base from 2012) that rodchenkov smuggled out to america. of course, if true it would outrageous b/c to have any legal validity a spread sheet like that would need be assured that rodchenkov himself did not type in some names or results. again, true to their claim of utter transparency, the ioc is ABSOLUTE mute here.
i dont think ustiougov himself believes he will go the korea...he'd otherswise abstain from a 50k classic yesterday...
python said:a lot of juicy reading....and viewing !
all in advance of the documentaries to be released tonight by the ard and the nrk later next week....Blood doping by the norwegians, swedes, finns, czechs etc exposed naked. several experts talk on camera. the russians are mentioned only occasionally.
as usual, the swedes are self reflective talking at length about their own including one who is almost a certainly a doper (ollson ?) 0n top of the 1st link is a 13-min clip...even if you do not understand scandinavian, check it out.
(swedish)
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/granskning/ug/expert-pekar-ut-svensk-akare-pa-lista-over-misstankt-dopning
(norwegian)
https://www.nrk.no/sport/dopingavsloring-ryster-sverige_-_-det-er-kaldblodig-juks-1.13898877
(english - a pay wall but a post above sheds more light)
https://www.nrk.no/sport/dopingavsloring-ryster-sverige_-_-det-er-kaldblodig-juks-1.13898877
you are a one-eyed reader with the remaining eye half blind :lol: the reference was to a swedish media link focusing on the suspected swedes.John de Savage said:python said:a lot of juicy reading....and viewing !
all in advance of the documentaries to be released tonight by the ard and the nrk later next week....Blood doping by the norwegians, swedes, finns, czechs etc exposed naked. several experts talk on camera. the russians are mentioned only occasionally.
as usual, the swedes are self reflective talking at length about their own including one who is almost a certainly a doper (ollson ?) 0n top of the 1st link is a 13-min clip...even if you do not understand scandinavian, check it out.
(swedish)
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/granskning/ug/expert-pekar-ut-svensk-akare-pa-lista-over-misstankt-dopning
(norwegian)
https://www.nrk.no/sport/dopingavsloring-ryster-sverige_-_-det-er-kaldblodig-juks-1.13898877
(english - a pay wall but a post above sheds more light)
https://www.nrk.no/sport/dopingavsloring-ryster-sverige_-_-det-er-kaldblodig-juks-1.13898877
Not really. Sares, Andersson (the current team doctor) and Mogren are all defending the obvious doper with an off-score exceeding 130 and huge variations. They're sure there's a natural explanation.
python said:you are a one-eyed reader with the remaining eye half blind :lol: the reference was to a swedish media link focusing on the suspected swedes.John de Savage said:python said:a lot of juicy reading....and viewing !
all in advance of the documentaries to be released tonight by the ard and the nrk later next week....Blood doping by the norwegians, swedes, finns, czechs etc exposed naked. several experts talk on camera. the russians are mentioned only occasionally.
as usual, the swedes are self reflective talking at length about their own including one who is almost a certainly a doper (ollson ?) 0n top of the 1st link is a 13-min clip...even if you do not understand scandinavian, check it out.
(swedish)
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/granskning/ug/expert-pekar-ut-svensk-akare-pa-lista-over-misstankt-dopning
(norwegian)
https://www.nrk.no/sport/dopingavsloring-ryster-sverige_-_-det-er-kaldblodig-juks-1.13898877
(english - a pay wall but a post above sheds more light)
https://www.nrk.no/sport/dopingavsloring-ryster-sverige_-_-det-er-kaldblodig-juks-1.13898877
Not really. Sares, Andersson (the current team doctor) and Mogren are all defending the obvious doper with an off-score exceeding 130 and huge variations. They're sure there's a natural explanation.
point us to a norwegian media picking up the same story where as the norwegian blood profiles are also implicated.
i can point you to the volumes of norwegian media, not only the medical staff that is supposed to defend them, defending the 90 values, bad instruments etc crap...
John de Savage said:It's not Johan Olsson BTW.
"SVT-reportern Magnus Svenungsson säger till P4 Extra att den svenska åkaren är aktiv i dag."
https://www.expressen.se/sport/os-2018/svenska-medaljorer-misstanks-for-doping/
Olsson is retired. Can't be him.
Not clear if it is "he"?Jaco0505 said:They say in the SVT video that the blood values from the skiier spans 7 years, so that means something like 2003/2004-2010 I guess. So he was active back then.
Anyone else than Rickardsson that fits these criterias?
Edit : Brink, I guess
Jaco0505 said:They say in the SVT video that the blood values from the skiier spans 7 years, so that means something like 2003/2004-2010 I guess. So he was active back then.
Anyone else than Rickardsson that fits these criterias?
Edit : Brink, I guess
alternator said:Not clear if it is "he"?Jaco0505 said:They say in the SVT video that the blood values from the skiier spans 7 years, so that means something like 2003/2004-2010 I guess. So he was active back then.
Anyone else than Rickardsson that fits these criterias?
Edit : Brink, I guess
If not, Britta Johansson Norgren is a candidate, too - competing since 2002 and a successful long distance racer these days.
Interesting that France had the highest % athletes with abnormal scores rate after Russia, but I can only remember Vittoz as having had some issue (and that was cleared in the B sample).python said:a lot of juicy reading....and viewing !
all in advance of the documentaries to be released tonight by the ard and the nrk later next week....Blood doping by the norwegians, swedes, finns, czechs etc exposed naked. several experts talk on camera. the russians are mentioned only occasionally.
as usual, the swedes are self reflective talking at length about their own including one who is almost a certainly a doper (ollson ?) 0n top of the 1st link is a 13-min clip...even if you do not understand scandinavian, check it out.
(swedish)
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/granskning/ug/expert-pekar-ut-svensk-akare-pa-lista-over-misstankt-dopning
(norwegian)
https://www.nrk.no/sport/dopingavsloring-ryster-sverige_-_-det-er-kaldblodig-juks-1.13898877
(english - a pay wall but a post above sheds more light)
https://www.nrk.no/sport/dopingavsloring-ryster-sverige_-_-det-er-kaldblodig-juks-1.13898877
Erwin said:Not exactly 1/3, but 46%, which is a lot more. Apart from that, it isn't medals between 2001 and 2010 but 2001 and 2017, i.e. over a much longer time period.
ToreBear said:Erwin said:Not exactly 1/3, but 46%, which is a lot more. Apart from that, it isn't medals between 2001 and 2010 but 2001 and 2017, i.e. over a much longer time period.
Are you sure?
Also they have set a very low bar for suspicious needing only one expert for it to be labeled as such. The ABP needs IIRC three experts to all agree to initiate a process.
Hellner debuted in the world cup in 2006.John de Savage said:Jaco0505 said:They say in the SVT video that the blood values from the skiier spans 7 years, so that means something like 2003/2004-2010 I guess. So he was active back then.
Anyone else than Rickardsson that fits these criterias?
Edit : Brink, I guess
Hellner.