I remember when EBH was seen as this prodigy that would dominate cycling in the coming decade. Right now I had to look up his name to see if he was even still racing. Apparently he is.
When Jonas focuses on a single goal he is extremely competitive. For the last two years, his goal was to win the Tour. But he is not a "cannibal" when it comes to stage wins. Last year he let Wout win the TT in stage 20, even though Wout had already won two stages. This year he didn't make an all-out effort to win stage 20 either. I'm not saying that he let Tadej win. It just wasn't that important to him.
I think this is a valid and logical assumption. I expect Roglic to be better than Ving as well. He had a much better preparation towards the Vuelta and he is absolutely flying and biggest favourite to win the Vuelta.
From the logical point of view, I agree with you. But I'm still suffering from Tour time trial PTSD where I would bet my house on Pog winning (luckily, I'm not a betting man) and will never again write Vinge off.
I don’t think he gives GT wins away, stages sure, but not a whole GT. Also based on the field there is no reason to think these two will take the top spots on the podium
Of course there is. But it depends on how well you think Vingegaard will do.
Yeah, the bar is already very high with what Van Aert did in Wevelgem, but this would reach stratospheric heights.
Absolutely flying... this seems like sandbagging from an Evenepoel fan. His performance yesterday is just what you might expect. Not worse, not better. Adam Yates is not the benchmark, a rider that Vingegaard (and Pogacar) just dropped for fun on every Tour climb.
I think Vingo is only entering this Vuelta because he is confident he can win (and for that he needs to be 100%). Therefore, this should be a pretty nice duel (hopefully some other guys can step up as well). The only problem is the tactics within JV, it will be interesting to see how it will play out.
I assume that anything he wins is according to you 'what you might expect'.
Double negatives don't work here so using bad arguments along with factually incorrect data doesn't make a good argument.
As I stated i consider Roglic a heavy favourite over Vingegaard in the Vuelta. (was expecting, giving this is a roglic thread, wouldn't be that offensive...)
)did you also get these reactions when stating Roglic is flying?
I would think Roglic and Remco are equal level favorites, as while it’s a generally suited course for Roglic, Remco seems to be catching a great spell of form heading into the Vuelta. Jonas is our wildcard, as obviously on peak form he’s dominating the race, but we don’t know how he’ll handle the second GT of the year for him.
The advantage from a TTT plus bonus seconds in a sprint. I'm just looking at the performance in yesterday's stage and it was just good. To be the overwhelming favourite for the Vuelta he needs to show a little more, on the final stage for example.
One possibility is that Vingegaard is doing the Vuelta mostly to help out the team and will ride for Roglic. A team winning all 3 GTs in one year - help me here, guys, when was this last done? Did Usps do it with Heras and Salvodelli? I also think that it's really hard to know how GC contenders will react to the second tour of the season. In theory, Vingegaard should be a little bit vulnerable, but by the same token, Roglic could be coming in too hot? I'd provisionally have Roglic as no. 1 but would have Vingegaard stay close to Remco, whom I assume is a co-favorite.
I think Vingegaard and his entourage know quite well what Roglic is capable of... probably better than anyone else. How do you think Jumbo are organized? They have a team-Vingegaard (i.e. the dark side) and a team-Roglic?
Now only 4 to go. It could have been another one this week, but 3 stage wins and the overall is not too much to ask for in the Vuelta.
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