Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

[Froome]

The discussion topic of the winter will be if 2024 is the year when Primoz finally wins the TdF.

I, btw, think that concerning GT GC riding, Pog, Rog, Evenepoel, and Vingegaard are equally strong. No one has an advantage among these four. If they all rode the Tour vs each other, it‘s impossible to predict who‘ll win.

Are you really serious?

 

[SHAD0W93]

So basically Jonas tends not to stomp. Point proven? And there is a clear difference on how Jonas and Pogi rode into the sunset, alone and holding hands. But with Remco and Rogla. It was all hands? That is the difference?

About that. Such arguments are just for making things up. As it used to be Rogla crashes a lot, he is old, years back, ... Meanwhile Rogla won everything important in stage racing bar ToS and the Tour. And still going strong.

And all in all if you portray Rogla like that, how should then quality cyclists like Mas, Thomas, Landa, Ayuso, Yates (both), Almeida, Carapaz ... be perceived?



Well, annihilators, if you are listening. Try that next year. And lets see how that goes. If not in 2024 maybe a (couple of) year(s) later. When Rogla will indeed be more of a cycling grandpa. Having a beard and going ho ho ho. That is going after beating the Horner record.

Till then this are just some theories.

Your first paragraphs has been talked about ad nauseam, you just don’t read what others posts and micromanage a word or sentence in paragraphs of writing.

Theories, like your conspiracy theory everyone is against and actively screwing Roglic?

 

[Hugh Januss]

Nobody said that.

Actually Geraint Thomas said that: “The one thing I would say is that Remco hates Jumbo, and Jumbo hate Remco, so that’s not gonna work, is it? Unless they do different programmes,” said Thomas. "You should hear what Roglič says about Remco,” he continued, as Rowe joked for them to “stir the pot now.”

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

Cyclingnews article, today:

“The one thing I would say is that Remco hates Jumbo, and Jumbo hate Remco, so that’s not gonna work, is it? Unless they do different programmes,” said Thomas. "You should hear what Roglič says about Remco,” he continued, as Rowe joked for them to “stir the pot now.”“

Edit: sorry, Hugh Januss was faster…

 

[acm]

Actually Geraint Thomas said that: “The one thing I would say is that Remco hates Jumbo, and Jumbo hate Remco, so that’s not gonna work, is it? Unless they do different programmes,” said Thomas. "You should hear what Roglič says about Remco,” he continued, as Rowe joked for them to “stir the pot now.”

And where did he say that Roglič hates Remco? He didn't, right?

 

[CyclistAbi]

Your first paragraphs has been talked about ad nauseam, you just don’t read what others posts and micromanage a word or sentence in paragraphs of writing.

I read what other people write and some of it tends to cause nausea. Like now this latest claims on how Pogi, Jonas, Remco ... wins are somehow greater. I guess at least until they race against Rogla?

Note that this used to be Rogla crashes a lot, too old ... Well, the usual BS.

Theories, like your conspiracy theory everyone is against and actively screwing Roglic?

Here i feel that you meant @Rackham? Pun intended.

P.S. I am the one not buying into this Rogla being No.3 BS. Demanding sole Tour leadership. The gist of it.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Remco fans hate Rogla, winning, so now they claim Rogla hates Remco.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc

 

[joseph89]

And where did he say that Roglič hates Remco? He didn't, right?

"Unless they do different programmes, You should hear what Roglič says about Remco." It's implied.

 

[SHAD0W93]

I read what other people write and some of it tends to cause nausea. Like now this latest claims on how Pogi, Jonas, Remco ... wins are somehow greater. I guess at least until they race against Rogla?

Note that this used to be Rogla crashes a lot, too old ... Well, the usual BS.



Here i feel that you meant @Rackham? Pun intended.

P.S. I am the one not buying into this Rogla being No.3 BS. Demanding sole Tour leadership. The gist of it.

There’s a difference between wins being argued as greater and dominating the competition. We’re talking about the later right now, the former was before and during the Vuelta.

No I meant you. You’ve spouted how Bahrain is against Roglic, his other riders don’t like and support him and make him crash by not giving space, the team does everything in their power to screw him, etc.

 

[acm]

"Unless they do different programmes, You should hear what Roglič says about Remco." It's implied.

Omg, I'm too old for this s*it.
In reality he didn't actually say that (nor implied), but some of you have a great imagination.

 

[acm]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1706735103425044495

View: https://twitter.com/GeraintThomas86/status/1706735103425044495?t=Wpm3aorN5MHO26Fg0YaLyQ&s=19

 

[CyclistAbi]

There’s a difference between wins being argued as greater and dominating the competition. We’re talking about the later right now, the former was before and during the Vuelta.

So in your opinion Rogla isn't dominating stage racing in last couple of years?

No I meant you. You’ve spouted how Bahrain is against Roglic, his other riders don’t like and support him and make him crash by not giving space, the team does everything in their power to screw him, etc.

Aha, Bahrain. You had to dig deep for that one. I don't see on why any conspiracy would be needed here.

Two Bahrain sprinters involved in Rogla crashing out of a GT. Rogla saying that out loud, now the problem resolved. No crashes involving the mentioned teams or riders any more. As it should be. Lets just keep it at that and we are good.

As for JV supporting Rogla as a leader on a GT. In the last two Tour editions and in the latest Vuelta edition indeed the support was rather subpar. At Tour mainly due to too many interests involved. At Vuelta, well, there Rogla was delivered to the hill and after people in the car decided, on who should race and when and how. It would in my opinion be hard to argue, that the decisions went in Rogličes favour. But feel free to prove otherwise if you believe this is a conspiracy theory. And the team actually worked in Rogličes favour.

 

[Blanco]

So Remco doesn't like Jumbo, and Roglic doesn't like Remco (although I think he's more like making fun of him).
Not surprised at all...

 

[red_flanders]

That’s some pretty dumb…or at least unnecessary…stuff for Thomas to put out there. Who does that help? Makes Roglič and Evenepoel look bad for no reason. Thought he was smarter. Does he need listeners that badly? Then to walk it back with “joking”…lame.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Thomas only wanted to start a quarrel in between Rogla and Remco, to have Remco for himself. Now the truth came out and he needed to apologize for it.

You got to love cycling!

 

[Rackham]

That’s some pretty dumb…or at least unnecessary…stuff for Thomas to put out there. Who does that help? Makes Roglič and Evenepoel look bad for no reason. Thought he was smarter. Does he need listeners that badly? Then to walk it back with “joking”…lame.

It's totally blown out of proportion.

Thomas only wanted to start a quarrel in between Rogla and Remco, to have Remco for himself. Now the truth came out and he needed to apologize for it.

You got to love cycling!

Nah. In the same watts occurring podcast there's also some banter aimed at their own Ineos teammate Kim Heiduk for causing a crash in the European championships (after he already made Thomas crash in the Vuelta).

We don't see headlines "GERAINT THOMAS INSINUATES HIS TEAMMATE HEIDUK IS A CRASH MERCHENT".

The press is just hungry for cycling drama, that's all. The Jumbo-Quick-Step merger is gold dust at the moment (for example Wielerflits are literally contacting pro-teams right now asking them whether they're interested in Quick-Step's pro license... just to generate more articles on the topic).

 

[SHAD0W93]

So in your opinion Rogla isn't dominating stage racing in last couple of years?

He’s winning them, he isn’t dominating them bar 2021 Vuelta. He’s won by using his brain to not overextend himself and blowup, having one of or the strongest team, and gains the time with the stomps and TT.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@Rackham

I don't even get on why people don't get it was a joke. Likely due to British comedy not so predominant any more in today's culture. Or maybe some people actually want for Rogla and Remco to hate each other. And are now disappointed.

 

[will-10]

Oh look, the CN forum taking a podcast throwaway line too seriously. I am personally very shocked

 

[CyclistAbi]

He’s winning them, he isn’t dominating them bar 2021 Vuelta.

I see, fair point, he is merely winning them.

 

[Extinction]

@Rackham

I don't even get on why people don't get it was a joke. Likely due to British comedy not so predominant any more in today's culture. Or maybe some people actually want for Rogla and Remco to hate each other. And are now disappointed.

In humor there is Truth.

 

[red_flanders]

@Rackham

I don't even get on why people don't get it was a joke. Likely due to British comedy not so predominant any more in today's culture. Or maybe some people actually want for Rogla and Remco to hate each other. And are now disappointed.

For my part because I haven’t listened to the podcast. I’ll give it a listen when I have a sec.

 

[CyclistAbi]

In humor there is Truth.

No joking when it comes to Remco. That is the truth.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

According to gerant Thomas, primoz roglic, a highly competitive world-class athlete, does not like his fiercest rival, remco evenpoel. What is the fuss about here? That's normal.

 

[CyclistAbi]

For my part because I haven’t listened to the podcast. I’ll give it a listen when I have a sec.

Lets just hope Thomas doesn't get cancelled for it.