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So no racing in January (Australia), Giro-Tour double could be an attractive option, especially if visiting Slovenia, overall a lot of challenges left ahead and looking forward to that, still first the routes should be revealed and only after the decision with the team to be made by around the end of January. On a side note, and due to all the age talks, Tour route to be revealed on Rogličes 35th birthday!
 
The route isn't that good for him ngl with the exception of ITTs being at the start. Too few unipuerto and too many heavy mountain stages like Loze, Superbagneres or Plagne. Lots of climbs are also very long, Visma & UAE will make the race very hard, it's gonna be another w/kg contest. He probably goes Giro imo.
 
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Since he's a huge underdog on any route I think it's sooner decided based on "do I think I can do a good Giro-Tour double on these routes" rather than "can I beat Pogacar and Vingegaard on these routes"
I think Giro decision might be depending on the competition.

Evenepoel probably goes but I don't think Vinge will be there. Just because Giro-Tour was done by Pog doesn't mean everyone will be able to pull it off. The route is too good for Vinge to risk going for Giro imo.
Niermann said about Vinge
The Giro? It is indeed an option. But the Tour-Vuelta combination is also an option, or just the Tour de France. We still have to decide that. The only thing I can say now is that we are happy with the Tour route. It is really something for Jonas”,
Remco&Rog : Giro + Tour
Vinge&Pog : Tour + Vuelta

Both Remco & Rog know their chances are slim for Tour anyway but at the same time they can't just skip Tour because of the sponsorship esp Roglic.
 
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I haven’t studied the route and I know Roglic is unlikely to win on any route, but what’s the consensus? How does the route look for him given his strengths and weaknesses?
I think this route is good for him. Not to hard, no to easy, both TTs are good for him, cause there is not much changing paces. Also stages are not too long for him. Like you said, he is unlikely to win against those two monsters but Remco is still beatable. I would even say he is not so far from Jonas but Tadej is killing him with his "jumping". I just wish one year is going right for him (without crashes) before TdF because we never see him in perfect shape there, he even had bad crash at Dauphine 2020 but everybody just remember him being second that year on TdF.
 
I think this route is good for him. Not to hard, no to easy, both TTs are good for him, cause there is not much changing paces. Also stages are not too long for him. Like you said, he is unlikely to win against those two monsters but Remco is still beatable. I would even say he is not so far from Jonas but Tadej is killing him with his "jumping". I just wish one year is going right for him (without crashes) before TdF because we never see him in perfect shape there, he even had bad crash at Dauphine 2020 but everybody just remember him being second that year on TdF.
Caen TT is pure flat which is a disadvantage for him. The other one is pure w/kg, not bad but not gaining any time either. The route is definitely too hard for him, he struggled recently on multi-mountain stages like Bondone or Granada which we have plenty here in Loze, Superbagneres, Plagne. The only unipuerto stage like Ancares which is his best performance this year is Ventoux but even there the climb is too long. The route is tailor-made for Vingegaard with all the stages where he beat Pog in the latest years.

Remco is maybe beatable which is far from a given but does a 3rd place really matter to him? I would argue winning Suisse will be a bigger feat.
 
10 days of flat hilly nervous *** at least he can quit early and prepare for Vuelta better.

Realistically, Hautacam, Peyragudes and Ventoux are good stages for Roglic, the rest is pretty bad for him. Him losing to Pog and Vingegaard isn't route dependent anyway. I much prefer him to go to the Giro regardless of route.
I just hope he can just stay on his bike this season. I think Giro is also the best option for him but those sterrato stages worry me :rolleyes:
 
I just hope he can just stay on his bike this season. I think Giro is also the best option for him but those sterrato stages worry me :rolleyes:
I don't see why he would go to Giro. It doesn't add much to his palmares and it still chance he doesn't win or even worse-he crashes. Also he can't do Giro-Suiise-TdF and he said Suisse is his big goal next year. Everybody just avoiding Tadej-Jonas duo would be really worrying, especcialy if 3rd (or4th) best GT rider on the world is not on the race.
 
Interestingly and in my opinion the Tour route did everything to attract riders such as van der Poel, then to try to push Remco in yellow early on and after to give as much chances as possible, for Jonas to beat Pogi. I see a couple of gems in it for Rogla too, likely unintetnionally. Anyway, Pogi likely still to finish second, to Rogla. It's important to keep Remco at bay, considering he is knocking on Red Bull door and it's important to finish ahead of Jonas, to beat his former team. So that leaves Pogi and it's perfectly OK if he finishes second, behind Rogla, no special reason involved, beyond overall being reserved for Rogla at the 2025 edition. And besides preparing good and fighting again injuries, at Tour and for Rogla injuries are much greater oponents, that is much more important then putting much emphasise on any other given rider.

Now lets see if we are doing Giro too.
 
I don't see why he would go to Giro. It doesn't add much to his palmares and it still chance he doesn't win or even worse-he crashes. Also he can't do Giro-Suiise-TdF and he said Suisse is his big goal next year. Everybody just avoiding Tadej-Jonas duo would be really worrying, especcialy if 3rd (or4th) best GT rider on the world is not on the race.
Giro is still the 2nd best prize of the year with the best trophy and probably his last real chance for a GT given his age and probably Vuelta will have Pog/Ving. Anyone will take a Giro before a 2nd/3rd at Tour. Not to mention it goes to Slovenia this year. Suisse is great but honestly this feat of having all one-week races would probably be done by Pog/Ving/Remco as well.
 
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Having read last couple of pages it's clear that the next Tour should be an exciting fight for 2nd (behind Rogla). Pogi is the favourite but Vingo can't be underestimated as well.

Obviously this historical fight will take place only if a miracle happens and Rogla doesn't crash. Otherwise the rest will be fighting for victory in an asterisked (as always) Tour edition.
 
So Rogla acknowledged that it used to be ride sparingly and hit when it matters the most, and now it's about full gas from start to finish. It seems that the plan is to adapt to this new racing style and fingers crossed Rogla pulls through. It would be rather special if Rogla again retires a whole generation of cyclists, by beating them consistently. Compared to what some seem to suggests, that Rogla should retire.

What i will do is i will follow Rogličes lead and see you all in 2025 season. Let it be grand!