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[Sciatic]

I think of myself as the biggest die hard Rogla fan in existence tbh, partially due to the stress I get when he's racing. I care, a lot. As I have experience supporting Rog in GT's, I tend to go in with my eyes wide open... whilst also half expecting the worse. I mentally prepare myself for the worse because grand tours have historically either been the stuff of dreams for Rog, or complete nightmares. There's no nuance in his career so far. It's either no risk no glory with glorious results... or total disaster.

I still haven't properly recovered from last summer's double knockout combo of the TdF haybale followed by that epic attack in the Vuelta stage 16... followed by whatever that was in the final few meters. I mentally checked out of cycling for months after that.

All this is to say I would never smack talk Evenepoel or anyone else, or overestimate Rogla & claim he's a superman or something because there's always the possibility everything turns to total sh*t. Watching a GT whilst supporting Rog is a form of human adventure so as a fan I buckle up & hope to enjoy the ride, whatever the outcome.

A true fan.

 

[SHAD0W93]

The thing that baffles me the most is on why wheel sucking is all of the sudden a problem now. Considering Remco will be ahead. Due to the ITT.

Wheelsucking and/or following the wheels of their teammates has always been a problem for some on the forum since I started reading in 2010. It is also compounded further when said rider sprints away at the end. This isn’t a new thing that started with Roglic.

 

[acm]

It would be very nice if Evenepoel fans and Roglic fans could stop the petty little flame war they got going on.

Well this is Roglic's thread, I don't know what Remco fans are doing here... There were no tensions before.

 

[Riek s]

I still haven't properly recovered from last summer's double knockout combo of the TdF haybale followed by that epic attack in the Vuelta stage 16... followed by whatever that was in the final few meters. I mentally checked out of cycling for months after that.

Understandable. If you consider one thing completely out of your control.. then that haybale crash comes to mind. Almost like a scene from the "naked gun" series.
I don't think you need to be a die hard fan to feel bad/shocked about that situation.
But if I can pick on thing that defines Roglic, it is that he fights back with the means he has. Which was evidenced later in the tour where he made a part of history in the way he broke Pogacar while riding with a broken body.
And i don't think you can find anyone that was not impressed with that.

Well this is Roglic's thread, I don't know what Remco fans are doing here... There were no tensions before.

one does not rule out the other. Also its an open forum where there will be talks about the competition. (same happens in remco thread)

or when we hit the tour in Vingegaard/pog threads.

 

[Salvarani]

Well this is Roglic's thread, I don't know what Remco fans are doing here... There were no tensions before.

At this point every thread gets derailed by the same people, because of the same thing. It is like a bee swarm.

 

[SHAD0W93]

At this point every thread gets derailed by the same people, because of the same thing. It is like a bee swarm.

Just like in years past of Froome/Sky vs Contador. Just like in 5-10 years it’ll be different riders with different posters. That is the way, which in a way makes me appreciate our little NFL community of posters. We all know what the other likes and dislikes but able to talk about subjects.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Wheelsucking and/or following the wheels of their teammates has always been a problem for some on the forum since I started reading in 2010. It is also compounded further when said rider sprints away at the end. This isn’t a new thing that started with Roglic.

Yeah but in this specific case. In the past few days a few Remco fans stated that hopefully Rogla won't wheel suck at Giro. Careful what you wish for? As it might come true?

Anyway. It will be an intense May. On Sunday i will reach my Giro weight and have been training from the beginning of the year. I am ready for the challenges that awaits. Considering most of the Remco fans have been banned. And to balance it out. See you all at:

 

[Gratemans]

Wheelsucking and/or following the wheels of their teammates has always been a problem for some on the forum since I started reading in 2010. It is also compounded further when said rider sprints away at the end. This isn’t a new thing that started with Roglic.

It's as old as cycling fora. I remember Purito being chastised for it, and Valverde of course. But if you're a GC rider with a better punch at the end of a race than your direct competitors, it's just the best tactic and you'd be stupid to race any other way.

 

[SHAD0W93]

It's as old as cycling fora. I remember Purito being chastised for it, and Valverde of course. But if you're a GC rider with a better punch at the end of a race than your direct competitors, it's just the best tactic and you'd be stupid to race any other way.

Purito didn’t get it as much after 2012, I think do to being nice and the 2012 and WC heartbreak. He definitely got criticized though for not attacking more for why he lost the Giro for example. But that’s just how people are, inconsistent. Take for example there were people that criticized Contador on chain gate it applauded when Sky upped the pace and helped cause Valverde’s crash in 2012. That’s just the nuances of our forum.

 

[Oldermanish]

Well this is Roglic's thread, I don't know what Remco fans are doing here... There were no tensions before.

The mutual adulation on Remco's thread makes it difficult to stand out. It's easier to get response count when you go to this or Pogacar's thread and denigrate their talent. It'll be a long month punctuated by posters being Banned....repeatedly. Rackham is transparent about his respect for Roglic and his opponents which is refreshing. IMO he is well rated but definitely underrated based on his crash tendencies. The Dude lays it all out and doesn't give up until a doctor advises it....several time.

 

[Oldermanish]

Yeah but in this specific case. In the past few days a few Remco fans stated that hopefully Rogla won't wheel suck at Giro. Careful what you wish for? As it might come true?

Anyway. It will be an intense May. On Sunday i will reach my Giro weight and have been training from the beginning of the year. I am ready for the challenges that awaits. Considering most of the Remco fans have been banned. And to balance it out. See you all at:

Just curious: is your Giro training weight a reflection of road miles or home liver stressing? I do both if I'm watching exciting GTs.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Remco’s demonstrated level is super high, and it’s hard to shake the feeling that his star will keep rising. But also I am not sure we’ve ever seen Roglic at top strength in a Tour. Maybe he can’t stay on his bike or healthy enough to ever do it…or maybe this is the year it all comes together for him. And what level will he show? The reality is the closest we have seen to a 100% in form, healthy Roglic in a GT was the 2020 Tour, and even then he had crashed out of the Dauphine and it was a Covid year.

2019 Giro - sick in third week
2020 Tour - crashed out of Dauphine, strange Covid year
2020 Vuelta - straight from a hard fought, heartbreaking Tour during strange Covid year
2021 Tour - crashed out
2021 Vuelta - had crashed out of the Tour but possibly top form
2022 Tour - crashed out of Tour
2022 Vuelta - crashed out of Vuelta

Really rough string of performances, some self-inflicted, some bad luck. Reminds me of Contador post 2012, as I’ve said before.

 

[Blanco]

I think Vuelta 2021 was his highest level. Then Vuelta 2019 and Tour 2020

 

[johnymax]

Gesink looked strong today, a good sign before the Giro. On the other hand Foss' climbing didn't look that good, hopefully he'll improve some in the next couple of weeks.

 

[johnymax]

View: https://youtu.be/n3IeMtN5EOY


To keep the hype going while waiting for the Grande partenza.

 

[Lequack]

Primož Roglič’s Twitter hack reveals the worst of the internet

Primož RogliÄ's Twitter hack reveals the worst of the internet

We follow rabbit hole after rabbit hole, all the way to the bottom of the flaming dumpster.

escapecollective.cc

 

[Rackham]

Primož Roglič’s Twitter hack reveals the worst of the internet

Primož RogliÄ's Twitter hack reveals the worst of the internet

We follow rabbit hole after rabbit hole, all the way to the bottom of the flaming dumpster.

escapecollective.cc

Twitter was always sketchy but now it's totally living up to its meme status as one of the worst of the worst places online.

Too bad there's no real alternative & so many pro cycling teams use it for public relations & updates.

 

[Cookster15]

Too bad there's no real alternative & so many pro cycling teams use it for public relations & updates.

Of course there are alternatives to Twitter - and how did teams survive before Twitter? Twitter was launched in 2006 and its popularity peaked in 2007-2010, its popularity has been steadily declining ever since. Many pro sports people get themselves in deep water by posting ill considered remarks there. And now we see there is risk of hackers. Why bother.

 

[Rackham]

Of course there are alternatives to Twitter - and how did teams survive before Twitter? Twitter was launched in 2006 and its popularity peaked in 2007-2010, its popularity has been steadily declining ever since. Many pro sports people get themselves in deep water by posting ill considered remarks there. And now we see there is risk of hackers. Why bother.

Because getting updates from the teams directly on Twitter is very useful.

This was perfectly exemplified by the recent Pogacar injury in Liège: UAE's twitter account was the best place to be for reliable, fast intel.

As for posting controversial stuff, Rogla in particular barely posted anything anyway. He's way more active on Instagram.

 

[Cookster15]

Because getting updates from the teams directly on Twitter is very useful.

This was perfectly exemplified by the recent Pogacar injury in Liège: UAE's twitter account was the best place to be for reliable, fast intel.

As for posting controversial stuff, Rogla in particular barely posted anything anyway. He's way more active on Instagram.

Yes but is it really worth the downsides? Roglics' hacking and many other examples from other sports suggests otherwise. There are how many pros in the peloton ? How many of them are active in Twitter? An appointed team representative should post on Twitter - like UAE's Twitter account.

 

[Netserk]

Yes but is it really worth the downsides? Roglics' hacking and many other examples from other sports suggests otherwise. There are how many pros in the peloton ? How many of them are active in Twitter? An appointed team representative should post on Twitter - like UAE's Twitter account.

Twitter is great even after its decline.

 

[johnymax]

Bump.

View: https://youtu.be/yn5NOpRgdwM


4 days to go.

 

[Rackham]

And before Grande Casino, let's remember how things were 6 months ago:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1653339678047698946

View: https://twitter.com/druzinadoo/status/1653339678047698946

 

[CyclistAbi]

His season so far was stellar. He did an exceptionally long preparation on altitude. He is positive and likely just wants for it all to start already.

All in all Rogla is ready for some GT! And so are we!

 

[johnymax]

What kind of performance do you expect from him in the opening ITT? Personally I would be happy with 15-20s behind Remco or better.