To finish 1 s ahead, you need to be physically capable of doing that, especially when they can ride full gas day after day in the Tour.
Yep, pretty much on how JV raced with Rogla all this years, full gas.
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To finish 1 s ahead, you need to be physically capable of doing that, especially when they can ride full gas day after day in the Tour.
Jumbo never rode full gas with Roglic due to him having issues with it. They had a nice tempo to set up his sprint.Yep, pretty much on how JV raced with Rogla all this years, full gas.
JV were more defensive when Roglic was the leader, and nothing against that because it suited more the characteristics of Roglic.Yep, pretty much on how JV raced with Rogla all this years, full gas.
Indeed, it's why he lost the TourJumbo never rode full gas with Roglic due to him having issues with it. They had a nice tempo to set up his sprint.
You want to see full gas racing, see Jumbo 2022 and 2023 along with UAE in 2023.OK, so having a "nice tempo", of attrition, that is not full gas racing.
Let's take a example.I see, now you will claim JV only raced full gas with Jonas, like if they had some sort of switch. And i guess, on all other races, they were preparing Rogla to stomp, by keeping competition fresh?
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I want anyone but Vingegaard to win every race he enters, so no I don’t have my “freak on” for him. I just see how great he rides and is better than the others at 100%. If you think the team rode similar for them when they were sole leaders then I don’t know what races you were watching. Visma made the race hard every single day from the start with Vingegaard, they rode a nice gentle tempo and rode hard at the final climb with Roglic. They’re not comparable.Could be but then again if you are telling me you don't have your Jonas freak on, i don't buy that either. All in all JV raced very similar having Rogla or Jonas as a leader. What was different is they launched Jonas a bit sooner up the climb. The rest was always about attrition in regards to competition.
So next time Visma can do that and Bora can set up Rogla for a stomp. I don't see on why should Bora be like look Rogla, go alone, if he prefers to stomp. Jonas and Visma can do whatever they prefer to do too. It's not like JV was prepared to use up Jonas any more, to further apply pressure, setting Rogla up for the stomp. Now, when Rogla is at Bora, Visma again could be prepared to do that. In the end that works for everyone.
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I think depends on the distance Roglic launches the attack in a uphill sprint.About sprints... I think it's pretty obvious right now Pogi has the better sprint on the flat. But when the road goes uphill I think Rogla has shown he is better than Pogačar. Although Pogi will still beat him in the future in some uphill sprints I'm sure.
Let's say on the flat it's Pogi 75:25.
Uphill sprint it's Rogla 60:40.
Just like in the Tour, Vingegaard will not wait anymore for Roglic, like he waited on plateau de solaison.@Rackham
Still, Rogla won't be mandated, to sit back and wait, when Visma will be setting Jonas up for an attack and when Jonas will be attacking ... So if Jonas is really that superior, to Rogla, then OK, nothing one can do about it. If not, then Jonas will get stomped. No big deal if you ask me.
Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives. There are no exceptions.
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The question is - can Visma ride like 2022 and 2023. I don’t think this year they’ll have enough firepower.I want anyone but Vingegaard to win every race he enters, so no I don’t have my “freak on” for him. I just see how great he rides and is better than the others at 100%. If you think the team rode similar for them when they were sole leaders then I don’t know what races you were watching. Visma made the race hard every single day from the start with Vingegaard, they rode a nice gentle tempo and rode hard at the final climb with Roglic. They’re not comparable.
Nor do I think Visma will ride like 2022 and 2023 if Vingegaard isn’t at 100% otherwise they run the risk of burning him out with his suboptimal prep. If they do ride like that, Roglic/Bora and everyone else is going to lose time from the repeated attrition Visma will cause.
They will have more firepower than last year because Jorgenson is great, and probably WVA will be there.I
The question is - can Visma ride like 2022 and 2023. I don’t think this year they’ll have enough firepower.
We are not talking about climbing firepower here - though even Jorgenson will have to match Kuss from 2023 which won’t be a simple task. But when talking about attrition, we are talking making the race hard every day, especially on the flat. They need an army of top shape rolleurs, which I don’t think they’ll have…They will have more firepower than last year because Jorgenson is great, and probably WVA will be there.
That's it, and that's why i talked about Van aert who will be there and will probably play an important role on that area. Jorgenson can also do that very well, but probably he will be the third man in the mountains after Kuss.We are not talking about climbing firepower here - though even Jorgenson will have to match Kuss from 2023 which won’t be a simple task. But when talking about attrition, we are talking making the race hard every day, especially on the flat. They need an army of top shape rolleurs, which I don’t think they’ll have…
He lost the Tour because he blew up in an uncharacteristic and ragged TT. One stage that surprised his entire team and him.Indeed, it's why he lost the Tour
And because they rode way too defensivelyHe lost the Tour because he blew up in an uncharacteristic and ragged TT. One stage that surprised his entire team and him.