Teams & Riders Fabio Aru discussion thread

[hrotha]

Re:

Aru maybe never had a true chance, but went for it multiple times. He's a greater challenger than Andy Schleck yet already!

That's hogwash.

 

[Miburo]

Re:

Aru maybe never had a true chance, but went for it multiple times. He's a greater challenger than Andy Schleck yet already!

He will still win this Giro by going mortal combat mode on Mortirolo or Finestre, of course!

He did a few weak attacks, he's not a challenger at all since he hasn't proved he's on contador's level.

 

[afpm90]

Re:

Aru maybe never had a true chance, but went for it multiple times. He's a greater challenger than Andy Schleck yet already!

Ok, clearly you didn't see any of the Tours where Schleck was against Contador. Aru still has a long way to go to get close to that.

 

[coppino]

Well he's in pink without too much merit (the only one of which i can think off is trying to hold on yesterday and being near the front of the peloton today). Now see if he has legs enough to stay under 2 minutes from Contador which would be a very very very good result.

 

[jens_attacks]

got a lucky maglia rosa so i'm sure he will honour it
he must do a great time trial after all the work in the states in the winter

 

[SeriousSam]

Grande Aru! Great positioning and not falling off your bike has been part of GC riding since at least July 2014. His competitors should take a page out of this young yet mature rider's book.

Who would have expected that it would be positioning instinct that would allow him to become the first rider to strip Contador of the GC leading jersey?

It is well known that the maillot jaune provides 10% extra power in time trials. The maglia rosa isn't as mystical, but it should enable Aru to be close to Contador in the TT and make a race out of this yet.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

Re:

Grande Aru! Great positioning and not falling off your bike has been part of GC riding since at least July 2014. His competitors should take a page out of this young yet mature rider's book.

Who would have expected that it would be positioning instinct that would allow him to become the first rider to strip Contador of the GC leading jersey?

It is well known that the maillot jaune provides 10% extra power in time trials. The maglia rosa isn't as mystical, but it should enable Aru to be close to Contador in the TT and make a race out of this yet.

'close' as in losing 2 minutes instead of 2 ½.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Aru to top 10 the tt for sure

 

[Cance > TheRest]

Re:

Aru to top 10 the tt for sure

Would be the first time in his career that he top 10'ed a regular time trial. Somewhere around top 15-25 is more realistic. The time gaps will be big afterall

 

[Netserk]

He'll certainly top-20, top-15 quite likely, top-10 is possible, top-5 ain't.

 

[Marco Pantani]

Re:

Aru to top 10 the tt for sure

Absolutely.

He'll surprise many.

 

[lenric]

Re:

They never really believed he could beat Contador, I fear. And at the moment Aru looks like someone who's missed some days of training at the wrong time. Maybe Astana knows he's going to fade, and that would explain why they are trying to have as many options still in GC contention. I wouldn't be surprised if Landa or Cataldo end up being the best placed Astana riders at the end of the Giro. Could be pessimism on my part, but he really looked sluggish yesterday.

Possibly.

But Nibali doesn't stand a chance against Froome (peak form) or this year Giro's Contador (peak Contador screws Nibali easily).

 

[SergeDeM]

Aru is a fighter. Give him two more years and he crushes the Giro. Contador right now is simply too much for him but I look forward to enjoying this kid's career.

 

[Sciocco]

Re:

Aru is a fighter. Give him two more years and he crushes the Giro. Contador right now is simply too much for him but I look forward to enjoying this kid's career.

Two more years is 100th edition of Giro, so I sure hope so. Every Italian should be present for that Giro.

 

[Eshnar]

Re:

Aru is a fighter. Give him two more years and he crushes the Giro. Contador right now is simply too much for him but I look forward to enjoying this kid's career.

Two years? Unless one of the big 4 races the Giro next year, he'll be the overwhelming favorite already.

If he doesn't bonk tomorrow

 

[SergeDeM]

Re: Re:

Aru is a fighter. Give him two more years and he crushes the Giro. Contador right now is simply too much for him but I look forward to enjoying this kid's career.

Two years? Unless one of the big 4 races the Giro next year, he'll be the overwhelming favorite already.

If he doesn't bonk tomorrow

Next year he might get it. In two years he crushes it

 

[Jelantik]

Re:

Aru is a fighter. Give him two more years and he crushes the Giro. Contador right now is simply too much for him but I look forward to enjoying this kid's career.

he is definitely the shining bright star. Looking foward to Vuelta. If Majka, Quintana and Aru, all participate, this year vuelta will be the dress rehearsal of creme' dela cream of the new generation of GT contender.

 

[movingtarget]

For a young rider in a long TT and known as a climber I think Aru did very well.

 

[Brullnux]

Re: Re:

They never really believed he could beat Contador, I fear. And at the moment Aru looks like someone who's missed some days of training at the wrong time. Maybe Astana knows he's going to fade, and that would explain why they are trying to have as many options still in GC contention. I wouldn't be surprised if Landa or Cataldo end up being the best placed Astana riders at the end of the Giro. Could be pessimism on my part, but he really looked sluggish yesterday.

Possibly.

But Nibali doesn't stand a chance against Froome (peak form) or this year Giro's Contador (peak Contador screws Nibali easily).

Nibali 2014 Tour was on par with Froome in 2013. Contador vs Nibali we have only really seen once, and Contador beat him by 6 minutes. However, this was 4 years ago, and Nibali has improved massively, whereas Contador not so much. Peak Contador is slightly better than Nibali and Froome, but we will probably not see peak Contador at the Tour.

 

[Pantani_lives]

It would be interesting if Astana sent Landa or Cataldo in the attack on the Mortirolo or the Finestre to put Contador's team under pressure. I hope they won't just ride to defend Aru's second place.

 

[Alcanelo]

Re: Re:

They never really believed he could beat Contador, I fear. And at the moment Aru looks like someone who's missed some days of training at the wrong time. Maybe Astana knows he's going to fade, and that would explain why they are trying to have as many options still in GC contention. I wouldn't be surprised if Landa or Cataldo end up being the best placed Astana riders at the end of the Giro. Could be pessimism on my part, but he really looked sluggish yesterday.

Possibly.

But Nibali doesn't stand a chance against Froome (peak form) or this year Giro's Contador (peak Contador screws Nibali easily).

Nibali 2014 Tour was on par with Froome in 2013. Contador vs Nibali we have only really seen once, and Contador beat him by 6 minutes. However, this was 4 years ago, and Nibali has improved massively, whereas Contador not so much. Peak Contador is slightly better than Nibali and Froome, but we will probably not see peak Contador at the Tour.

Peak Contador is a lot better than "slightly better"...peak Contador is untouchable.

 

[SeriousSam]

Re: Re:

They never really believed he could beat Contador, I fear. And at the moment Aru looks like someone who's missed some days of training at the wrong time. Maybe Astana knows he's going to fade, and that would explain why they are trying to have as many options still in GC contention. I wouldn't be surprised if Landa or Cataldo end up being the best placed Astana riders at the end of the Giro. Could be pessimism on my part, but he really looked sluggish yesterday.

Possibly.

But Nibali doesn't stand a chance against Froome (peak form) or this year Giro's Contador (peak Contador screws Nibali easily).

Nibali 2014 Tour was on par with Froome in 2013. Contador vs Nibali we have only really seen once, and Contador beat him by 6 minutes. However, this was 4 years ago, and Nibali has improved massively, whereas Contador not so much. Peak Contador is slightly better than Nibali and Froome, but we will probably not see peak Contador at the Tour.

I know that 2014 Nibali's estimated w/kg curve as a function of length of effort is similar to 2013 Froome's, but I still find it hard to believe Nibali was that good. If he really was that good, why is it he is only 4th most likely to win the Tour, significantly less likely than Froome, Quintana and even Double-attempting Contador according to the bookies? In my opinion, it's because he just cannot climb like they can.

 

[lenric]

Re: Re:

They never really believed he could beat Contador, I fear. And at the moment Aru looks like someone who's missed some days of training at the wrong time. Maybe Astana knows he's going to fade, and that would explain why they are trying to have as many options still in GC contention. I wouldn't be surprised if Landa or Cataldo end up being the best placed Astana riders at the end of the Giro. Could be pessimism on my part, but he really looked sluggish yesterday.

Possibly.

But Nibali doesn't stand a chance against Froome (peak form) or this year Giro's Contador (peak Contador screws Nibali easily).

Nibali 2014 Tour was on par with Froome in 2013. Contador vs Nibali we have only really seen once, and Contador beat him by 6 minutes. However, this was 4 years ago, and Nibali has improved massively, whereas Contador not so much. Peak Contador is slightly better than Nibali and Froome, but we will probably not see peak Contador at the Tour.

The only test done by Contador last year's Tour to Nibali was failed by the italian. And it was a *** hill. Not to even mention Dauphine.

 

[staubsauger]

Aru is a brave young man actually, because sooner or later he closes the gaps or at least stays in touch with the big guns. Like in last years Vuelta!

Nibali got demolished and acted out by Contador in 2011. And from Wiggins in 2012. Also from Froome in 2011. Back then, Nibali was a grand tour winner already.

 

[coppino]

test failed: 3 seconds lost...