From a doping point of view, what do you expect Froom in the vuelta?

[happychappy]

rabid danboy babble

How does that steak taste? You fanboys amuse me, even when your doping heros get banned for doping, it's okay because they fit with the "romanticism" of cycling. The euros are allowed to dope, according to people like you.
Looking forward to the next time Contadope gets popped for doping.

 

[danjo007]

froome has been cheating for a long time. he had to sit back and wait for his turn. ALL of sky is on some program, and its not legal. LOL @ sky, cause they dont/arent getting the attention in the way they want.

 

[MaxVO2]

Making me think he's dirty - dropping and/or beating Contador.
Clean? Not finishing on the podium as he's so exhausted from a pretty intensive last two months.

I expect something in between.

Makes me wonder too. He's had an intense summer, and he's been on fire!
2010 best result 9th in Tour du Haut Var. Huh?
2011 no tour, but 2nd in Vuelta
2012 you know what happened so far.

I just don't get it. He comes out of mediocrity then boom! Contender for Vuelta 2011 and riding intensely this summer. He's kept his current peak for this long - Tour, Olympics, Vuelta? Vuelta's only going to get harder. Maybe he's just a summer/fall grand tour rider? OR he's found the secret weapon at SKY.

 

[Altitude]

Love this headline on the homepage:

"Froome has work to do entering the rest day at the Vuelta"

You're damn right he has some work to do

 

[maxmartin]

Love this headline on the homepage:

"Froome has work to do entering the rest day at the Vuelta"

You're damn right he has some work to do

haha
LMAF

 

[maxmartin]

As long there is people (like Merckx) still praising and defending Lance. Sadly but true it is maybe already part of this sport culture. And sky decides if you can't fight it why not just join it and enjoy it.

Glad **** Pound agrees with me

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/pound-calls-for-truth-and-reconciliation-for-cycling

 

[maxmartin]

Curious and excited to see ITT result of CF

 

[Cycle Chic]

Eurosport Face to Face Challenge

Eurosport did a face to face off between Contador and Froome. Did anyone see it ?


http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/video/28082012/58/contador-froome-face-face.html

Interesting that Contador mentioned Lance Armstrong twice - so Contador still frightened of mr armstrong.

And Froome states the Vuelta stage 17 was his first race win as a pro - well he said it !

 

[veganrob]

Love this headline on the homepage:

"Froome has work to do entering the rest day at the Vuelta"

You're damn right he has some work to do

Calling Dr. Leinders. Calling Dr. Leinders.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Interesting that Contador mentioned Lance Armstrong twice - so Contador still frightened of mr armstrong.

Or he admired Armstrong when he was a kid

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Or he admired Armstrong when he was a kid

Guess he loved the way he was captain of the autobus.

 

[Cycle Chic]

This was in the Clean Brits thread by Dr. Sahl

Originally Posted by Dr.Sahl
I've seen alot say the same about American cycling when defending LA ^^ just saying and even just the normal sports. yet cheaters are there and some get found.. the circus still goes on however. (to the bold)

I dislike Man U aswell, but not because they are rich... I dislike them due to many of the players they had and their "cocky attitude" something I see in Sky aswell tbh..

If anything I would be surprised if Brites was not cheating (its actually not something bad, I think back on the medieval times) so well...

Does this mean all are a bunch of cheats and crazy people ?? no I like alot of brites and sure... some of them don't cheat!!! but anyone that believe a guy like Froome is clean is very ignorant im0 (thats my opinion!!) I guess its because one of my British friends knew Froome's family before they went to Africa (still know them) when he talks about how Froome doped in his youth.... why would he not do it now ^^

Its odd how some nationalities get offended when its their rider(s) that gets focused on in the clinic, they go all out defensive and flame the rest!! "just like as LA American fans" I've been called a jealous guy with the remark "just because your country sucks at sport) etc.. the fun thing is when one from my country won TDF I called cheat long before on him... why be so protective.. set aside the nationalistic aspect and look at the riders and teams instead.. do you really want a unfair cheating circus rather than a fair playing field ?? if you want the first, I would recommend American Wrestling for you.

I didnt aim to hurt anyone etc by this post.. this is just my opinion.

Have a good day.

 

[maestro01]

That doesnt fit in with the accusations on here that suggest Froome was a medicore rider who suddenly doped and was magically transformed!

Now your saying he doped all along from a kid

 

[Dr.Sahl]

That doesnt fit in with the accusations on here that suggest Froome was a medicore rider who suddenly doped and was magically transformed!

Now your saying he doped all along from a kid

Well not kid but in his late teens (still youth rider to me however)

I know many people that took doping but never really did anything compared to others, so that does not mean anything.. I am just trying to state that doping all around is more common than people want to think.. its also true that without any hard work doping is not much of a use (maybe that could give us a hint about Froome)

Besides. I never said he was heavily doping. but doping is still doping right ^^

 

[maxmartin]

Well not kid but in his late teens (still youth rider to me however)

I know many people that took doping but never really did anything compared to others, so that does not mean anything.. I am just trying to state that doping all around is more common than people want to think.. its also true that without any hard work doping is not much of a use (maybe that could give us a hint about Froome)

Besides. I never said he was heavily doping. but doping is still doping right ^^

then that just further confirmed how low his natural talent is, judging by his late teen results. It also fits very well with that infamous David brailsford TALENT CHART.

 

[Telmisartan new]

then that just further confirmed how low his natural talent is, judging by his late teen results. It also fits very well with that infamous David brailsford TALENT CHART.

Been mentioned before in here but worth another mention:

Christopher Froome did not win his first race at the Vuelta 2011, this is a popular myth.There is very good evidence previous to this that he would turn out to be the most consistent GT rider in the world.He won the Anatomic Jock Race in 2009 which to my mind means that race should now replace the Tour de l'Avenir as the most obvious indicator of future GT potential.

 

[Armchaircyclist]

Well not kid but in his late teens (still youth rider to me however)

I know many people that took doping but never really did anything compared to others, so that does not mean anything.. I am just trying to state that doping all around is more common than people want to think.. its also true that without any hard work doping is not much of a use (maybe that could give us a hint about Froome)

Besides. I never said he was heavily doping. but doping is still doping right ^^

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If you have some facts to share I'd like to know what you mean by not heavy doping.

 

[Cycle Chic]

Dr. Sahl makes good points about Froome in many of his posts...

but you say I guess its because one of my British friends knew Froome's family before they went to Africa (still know them) when he talks about how Froome doped in his youth.... why would he not do it now ^^

from Wikipedia...'Born in Nairobi, Kenya, Froome moved with his family to South Africa as a fourteen year-old'

I,m confused - so where was he before 'they went to africa' ?? trivial but be nice to know what you mean.

 

[johnnycash]

Dr Sahl is full of ****

 

[_frost]

I,m confused - so where was he before 'they went to africa' ?? trivial but be nice to know what you mean.

Don't let the facts confuse you.

 

[JibberJim]

then that just further confirmed how low his natural talent is, judging by his late teen results. It also fits very well with that infamous David brailsford TALENT CHART.

Whilst Froome is utterly peculiar performance change and almost certainly a doper, there is no published talent chart from DB, the one you're talking about was by a journalist based on DB's description of the zones. CF was put there by the journalist not DB.

 

[thehog]

Froome is doping. 100%. He’s suffering from dopers fatigue. You simply can’t keep transfusing all year long. You also need to cycle off the drugs you’re using to allow your body to return to its normal levels. Otherwise you start to reach a point where you doping is not bringing you to the higher levels. Any body builder knows the important of cycling in and out of a doping program. You don’t dope 365 days a year. Additionally mentally it’s very difficult to dope for more than 6 – 8 months of the year.

Two things will occur in the coming 10 days. He will drop completely. Physically Froome can keep up but the body itself will drop and he will have a horrible crash and lose 10-15 minutes on one stage. Or. He will get dopers nerves and take more than he should and make a mistake outside of doping protocol and test positive.

Just watch.

 

[_frost]

Froome is doping. 100%. He’s suffering from dopers fatigue. You simply can’t keep transfusing all year long. You also need to cycle off the drugs you’re using to allow your body to return to its normal levels. Otherwise you start to reach a point where you doping is not bringing you to the higher levels. Any body builder knows the important of cycling in and out of a doping program. You don’t dope 365 days a year. Additionally mentally it’s very difficult to dope for more than 6 – 8 months of the year.

Two things will occur in the coming 10 days. He will drop completely. Physically Froome can keep up but the body itself will drop and he will have a horrible crash and lose 10-15 minutes on one stage. Or. He will get dopers nerves and take more than he should and make a mistake outside of doping protocol and test positive.

Just watch.

He's definately suffering from fatigue and I wouldn't indeed be very surprised to see him drop. Where some see it (and practically everything) as a proof of doping, some might simply see it as...well fatigue.

 

[the big ring]

Froome is doping. 100%. He’s suffering from dopers fatigue. You simply can’t keep transfusing all year long. You also need to cycle off the drugs you’re using to allow your body to return to its normal levels. Otherwise you start to reach a point where you doping is not bringing you to the higher levels. Any body builder knows the important of cycling in and out of a doping program. You don’t dope 365 days a year. Additionally mentally it’s very difficult to dope for more than 6 – 8 months of the year.

Are you speaking from personal experience?

 

[maxmartin]

Whilst Froome is utterly peculiar performance change and almost certainly a doper, there is no published talent chart from DB, the one you're talking about was by a journalist based on DB's description of the zones. CF was put there by the journalist not DB.

so the source is still DB, or are you saying the journalist randomly put CF over there?