More like a classics rider morphing in to a Pantani thumper. Kind of a "Yeah, right" moment.Wiggins was more a surprise to hierarchical couch monkeys who thought track couldn’t climb mountains.
More like a classics rider morphing in to a Pantani thumper. Kind of a "Yeah, right" moment.Wiggins was more a surprise to hierarchical couch monkeys who thought track couldn’t climb mountains.
It was bad enough when Wigans was climbing ok at the 2009 Giro, where he notched up his first ever top 110 finish at a GT when he came in the 70's. The 2009 TDF was absolutely hysterical.More like a classics rider morphing in to a Pantani thumper. Kind of a "Yeah, right" moment.
Pretty sure going from being discarded to a minimum wage contract at Lampre, to 2nd on the road at a GT in the space of a few weeks fits the bill.Whats the criteria for meteoric rise?
You've convinced me hes clean since its just an emotional/personality thing clearly.Pretty sure going from being discarded to a minimum wage contract at Lampre, to 2nd on the road at a GT in the space of a few weeks fits the bill.
he was ranked circa 500th in the world when he won the Vuelta (after 5 years as elite)...not 500th a la greg lemond who had been out of commission after being shot or armstrong having cancer...he was 500th because he was....er....500th.....You've convinced me hes clean since its just an emotional/personality thing clearly.
I forgot to add, after only being picked because John Lee Augustyn was sick and he rode the same size bike as Wigans...You've convinced me hes clean since its just an emotional/personality thing clearly.
Certainly you can have whatever opinion you like, but getting shot is to my view, an order of magnitude beyond crashing your bike and breaking some bones.This is even worser than Trump interfering with the UK election by saying "Vote Boris!"
Greg LeMond: ‘Egan Bernal, do not work for Chris Froome!’
Froome coming back to win the Tour would, of course, be the equal of - if not better - than LeMond getting off his sick-bed in 1989 to trash the Froggie fiend Fignon so perhaps one might say "Well he would say that, wouldn't he?"
Perhaps. From reports Froome actually lost more blood than did LeMond. I think care was available to Froome far sooner than LeMond. Both suffered major injuries.Certainly you can have whatever opinion you like, but getting shot is to my view, an order of magnitude beyond crashing your bike and breaking some bones.
But do we have any 'proof' that Lemond was actually shot...or if he was that it was as serious as reportedCertainly you can have whatever opinion you like, but getting shot is to my view, an order of magnitude beyond crashing your bike and breaking some bones.
Clearly your point about time to care is valid, again pointing to a far more serious and life-threatening injury to LeMond. I'll add that I’m extremely skeptical that anyone here knows how much blood Lemond, or frankly Froome, lost.Perhaps. From reports Froome actually lost more blood than did LeMond. I think care was available to Froome far sooner than LeMond. Both suffered major injuries.
I wish him well and hope he recovers completely for the sake of his health and his family. Not sure why he wouldn't. He sounds optimistic, but yeah, age is a factor here, which may be as much a thing as his injuries. I hope so. As a fan of some tremendous racing and fantastic races this year, I would have hoped he'd have just tipped his cap and called it a career.I'm hoping Froome makes a full recovery. I just do not believe he will ever be as dominating mostly because of two reasons. 1. He was hurt in a bike crash. Don't expect caution to be thrown to the wind while descending ever again. 2. His age. Froome's injuries happened when he was 34, not 26 (as with LeMond).
Well played, sir!But do we have any 'proof' that Lemond was actually shot...or if he was that it was as serious as reported![]()
Agreed. There's something about champions wanting to go out on their own terms. Sometimes they are able to do it, sometimes they aren't. I'll go ahead and say he will have a difficult time of it.I wish him well and hope he recovers completely for the sake of his health and his family. Not sure why he wouldn't. He sounds optimistic, but yeah, age is a factor here, which may be as much a thing as his injuries. I hope so. As a fan of some tremendous racing and fantastic races this year, I would have hoped he'd have just tipped his cap and called it a career
I think Lemond's shotgun blast injuries were while turkey hunting, and I thought I heard that the shot size was not actually buckshot but "turkey shot" -- smaller pellets (maybe bb sized) but way more of them embedded in his organs and lungs. I realize this may be nitpicking. I concur with your points, though.Clearly your point about time to care is valid, again pointing to a far more serious and life-threatening injury to LeMond. I'll add that I’m extremely skeptical that anyone here knows how much blood Lemond, or frankly Froome, lost.
I'll happily say again that the trauma from a shotgun blast, a blast which left buckshot in his vital organs including his heart, is an order of magnitude more trauma than Froome's serious, albeit manageable injuries.
I wish him well and hope he recovers completely for the sake of his health and his family. Not sure why he wouldn't. He sounds optimistic, but yeah, age is a factor here, which may be as much a thing as his injuries. I hope so. As a fan of some tremendous racing and fantastic races this year, I would have hoped he'd have just tipped his cap and called it a career.
Well played, sir!![]()