Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[kingjr]

Brailsford did not say he had talked with WADA. He stated a possibly way to work with WADA to prove Sky's cleanliness:

Thanks that's how I read it too.

 

[Netserk]

Thanks that's how I read it too.

I think everyone but Benotti read it like that

 

[Taxus4a]

Is the peloton going slower now that in 2009? That doesn't appear to be the case.

It is the case.

 

[Netserk]

It is the case.

Everyone but Froome-dawg

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Since there are 7 billion humans on this rock, why are you so sure that one can't be exceptional?

If Einsteins can exist, why not Froomes?

This question has been answered time and time again.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

It is the case.

Ventoux stage was longer and the average pace was higher than on prior similar versions and yet the Wonderdawg came within 3s of beating the doped up Armstrong's record on the final climb.

What are you driving at Taxi?

 

[Carstenbf]

This thread is going in circles really.

You know, I've spewed some bile in here myself. But as of late doubts have started to creep into my mind. Could he be clean(ish)?

I've always had issues with riders breaking my "cycling paradigms". Never liked when a rider could podium both MTF's and TT's. It messes with the fundamentals of my approach to cycling. Yet when Riis won in '96 I was happily cheering with the rest of the Danes. Totally oblivious!

Anyways, I'm done trash talking the guy until something substantive materializes. Sceptic, sure. But then again, it's not like I have a lot of faith in the rest of the contenders either. Let the chips fall where they may. I'll leave it to others to pass judgement. Time is the great equalizer, and tbh let's give the man some time shall we?

Meanwhile I'll just enjoy the rest of the Tour. And I shall applaud whomever ends up on top of the podium in Paris.

Flame on, and have a nice day!

- Carsten

 

[Coolair2970]

Yes because every good cyclist has to be a talent, and yes being good since2011 which made him 26 is a sign of doping. Basically you all have to win GT's at 23, yeh right.

See the funny thing is back when Epo wasn't invented yet, most first time winners where in their early twenties.

Merckx - 1. giro 22 years 1. Tour 24 years
Hinault - 1. Tour 23 years
Fignon - 1 Tour 22 years
Lemond - 1 Tour 25 years before that he was 2nd and 3rd.

Those 4 riders won 15 out of 23 tour from 68 to 90.

 

[lemoogle]

You're very quick to decide that you've got a complete picture of me. I've only made a handful of posts, yet you can sum me up entirely!!!

Only, you've not quite got me right. I have nothing wrong with people forming opinions. What I have an issue with is people stating them as fact.

There is a big difference between "I think Froome is a doper" and "Froome is a doper". Personally, I do agree with the former, but I still couldn't say the latter without evidence.

But don't worry about my opinion. I figured my break from the gospel would have a lot of people pegging me as a 'skybot'. That's what I meant when I talked about the parochial atmosphere of the clinic.

You realize nothing really in life is fact right? What's fact for doping? a doping test showing EPO? what about the biopassport? it doesn't even provide a way to be like " look the indicator is red he 's doping 100% " Who knows what if some rider had a condition that fluctuated his levels to abnormal values that would usually indicate doping ( yeah we've heard that before ), but nothing is exactly 100% conclusive in life, except for maths, so stop waiting for it.

 

[lemoogle]

You know, I've spewed some bile in here myself. But as of late doubts have started to creep into my mind. Could he be clean(ish)?

Wait recent events have made you think more and more that he may be clean? What have you been watching?

 

[Taxus4a]

Everyone but Froome-dawg

He as well.

 

[Juan Speeder]

This question has been answered time and time again.

The answer is "no one is exceptional"?

or something else?

 

[thehog]

Wait recent events have made you think more and more that he may be clean? What have you been watching?

The thing with Chris is what you saw out there on Ventoux is his bread and butter. He can be explosive. Those surges are what really hurts the other guys on the climbs. You can never train for that intensity but that ride that you saw on Ventoux is not dissimilar to the efforts that we do in training.

Ventoux in training? Punching Pantani times all the way

http://www.cyclingnews.com/blogs/richie-porte/flick-or-be-flicked

 

[ChewbaccaD]

The answer is "no one is exceptional"?

or something else?

The answer is that nobody is THAT exceptional...

 

[Juan Speeder]

The answer is that nobody is THAT exceptional...

Einstein was.

 

[Eshnar]

Einstein was.

even him used to get something wrong you know.

 

[Carstenbf]

Wait recent events have made you think more and more that he may be clean? What have you been watching?

Man of Steel.

Nah man, just got a little distance is all. Getting to grips with the fact that MY guy probably ain't gonna win. And that he's getting beat by a freakish looking (British! ) upstart. It's just, looking back I'd have preferred to have kept my mouth shut, given the odd chance that the guy could be for real.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Einstein was.

No, he wasn't as he wasn't so exceptional that sleeping with his daughter did repulse him...sorry, raping his daughter

 

[the sceptic]

So Einstein proves Froome is clean? interesting theory. Skybots are really getting desperate now

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Man of Steel.

Nah man, just got a little distance is all. Getting to grips with the fact that MY guy probably ain't gonna win. And that he's getting beat by a freakish looking (British! ) upstart. It's just, looking back I'd have preferred to have kept my mouth shut, given the odd chance that the guy could be for real.

You probably didn't think your man was doping at the time.

 

[richwagmn]

There was no tail winds yesterday, it was a head wind.

Someone should tell Contador not to ride in echelon formation then. I saw crosswinds.

 

[bewildered]

Einstein was.

Einstein excelled at school from day 1

 

[gustienordic]

So Einstein proves Froome is clean? interesting theory. Skybots are really getting desperate now

I enjoy this argument Skybots are starting to remind me of decepticons...

Froometron and Portescream are out to rule the universe with their loyal following of small radios and household appliances turned rogue

 

[vrusimov]

He as well.

Now you are being just plain silly my friend. He has two dpVAM performances in two outings, so he is 2 for 2. He has remained at 4.5-5% above baseline GT 2008-2013 since AX3 Domaines.

His average speed of 21.86 kph on Ventoux is just :15 seconds short of Contador and Schleck's 21.96 in 2009. So it looks like he IS going just a sliver slower than jacked-up Contador circa 2009. I stand corrected!

 

[alitogata]

Malakies.. Froome is sooooooo obviously doped and his performance soooo obviously alien that made me not wanting to watch the rest of TdF. These doped athletes and their teams are playing around with our intelligence.. they think that we are all idiots who are not able to judge if a performance like Froome's is possible or not.

But anyone having a little experience in cycling knows that his performance is not possible.

Sick and tired.. this TdF tends to be a parody of a race..