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Bike doping! (sort of ...)
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/racin...liance-stickers-to-bikes-purchased-from-china
British Continental team Saint Piran broke UCI rules by applying frameset approval stickers to bikes that had not been formally approved.

The team, run by Richard Pascoe, began using unbranded bikes imported from China during the 2022 season after a sponsorship deal with Lapierre collapsed. Some riders used these bikes in multiple races during that season, including the UK's British National Road Series race, Lincoln GP, and several other races.
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and it does not help that money seems in short supply - DS Steve Lampier,
Lampier says he is owed around £27,000 by Saint Piran, which covers a variety of costs, including unpaid team hotel bills which Lampier had been forced to cover personally when travelling to races.

Messages seen by CW show that Lampier regularly asked Pascoe to urgently put funds into team accounts after arriving at hotels across Europe and discovering that rooms for staff and riders had not been paid for.
Sources said that Lampier was regularly placed in "difficult situations" by Pascoe when travelling abroad with the team meaning he was often forced to put large transactions on his personal credit cards.


Three additional people, who asked to remain anonymous, have since come forward to say they are also owed money for unpaid wages and other costs.
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Tim Cahill said:
www.theguardian.com

Cheating alleged after men’s world conker champion found with steel chestnut

Metal replica conker found in pocket of David Jakins AKA King Conker, first-time winner after competing since 1977
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Conker doping, unbelievable scenes!!!
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Never tested positive! Or something like that ... On appeal David Jakins, known as King Conker, has been cleared of cheating by using a steel conker.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...red-of-cheating-at-world-conker-championships
A spokesperson for the World Conker Championships, which drew 256 players and 2,000 fans to Southwick, Northants, last Sunday, said: “We have studied photos and videos of matches, interviewed judges and examined the chestnuts used by King Conker.

“The investigation has found no evidence that the steel conker was used. King Conker has been cleared of suspicion, and his name is being engraved on the trophy.”

St John Burkett, a spokesperson for the championships, told the Guardian that the 3,500 conkers for this year’s tournament were collected two to three days beforehand and blind-picked from a bag by competitors from all over the world to prevent tampering.
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There you go, Brits don't dope! :)
 
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Geoff Capes died the other day, former WSM and shot-putter, the manliest of all men, not a woke bone in his body. Was also on mad roids. a clinic legend! See you in another life Geoff.

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I don't understand this thread. We have another one called "doping in other sports" so I assumed this one was for general talk of doping in cycling...
 
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E_F_ said:
I don't understand this thread. We have another one called "doping in other sports" so I assumed this one was for general talk of doping in cycling...
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I think you’re right. Not every cycling doping case (which there are few of these days) generates it’s own thread and not every rider has their own clinic thread, so that’s what I thought went in here. As well as announcements from courts or anti-doping organizations that don’t fit into another established thread. But that’s just my take. For example if they announced a plan to retest remaining samples from the 2020 Tour, it’s easier to post that here rather than search for a thread about the 2020!Tour.
 
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Sciatic said:
Another demonstration of the NFL’s stringent anti-doping stance: player banned 2 whole games for PED use. ;)
And in keeping with their policy of transparency re: fighting doping in sport, they do not say which doping product was found.
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I believe the NFL doesn't bother as the "busts" are usually the most publicly acceptable medication of the Dog's Breakfast of pharmaceuticals players ingest. Only my opinion. They don't want to shatter the young fans' faith in hard work and gym available Stanazolol...or whatever. Kinda like the North Carolina Master WC that was busted taking...everything at US Natz.
 
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sam6 said:
I read that 80% of pro cyclists now 'have' asthma, is this really true?
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Depends on how you define "have asthma". Recent rumours had lots of guys in the peloton with thyroid problems and not long ago nearly all had blood problems.
Praise the Lord for TUE's!.
 
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Oldermanish said:
I believe the NFL doesn't bother as the "busts" are usually the most publicly acceptable medication of the Dog's Breakfast of pharmaceuticals players ingest. Only my opinion. They don't want to shatter the young fans' faith in hard work and gym available Stanazolol...or whatever. Kinda like the North Carolina Master WC that was busted taking...everything at US Natz.
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You make me laugh! It has been 11 years since that race he was busted at and it was my last. I was out training in December (months after the race) when the news broke on a cold and wet day. I got home, got warmed up, saw the news and said WTF, why on earth am I out doing this at my age to beat this idiot. Never pinned a number on after that. So double whammy for me, getting shattered as a kid in Europe with reality and then as an old guy....makes me feel pretty effing stupid! But it is fun to ride for sure.
 
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Pontiac said:
You make me laugh! It has been 11 years since that race he was busted at and it was my last. I was out training in December (months after the race) when the news broke on a cold and wet day. I got home, got warmed up, saw the news and said WTF, why on earth am I out doing this at my age to beat this idiot. Never pinned a number on after that. So double whammy for me, getting shattered as a kid in Europe with reality and then as an old guy....makes me feel pretty effing stupid! But it is fun to ride for sure.
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You weren't stupid and I hope you got some personal experiences that actually made it worthwhile. Sometimes it's getting over that hill that torments you with some extra gas or just a beautiful day in the country. That was my last Natz and he finished off the back. We knew there were many more gassers in the group and, every once in awhile they'd get caught. Then someone would remind me I got a retroactive win. Didn't change what I like about the sport and it was mostly being in great landscapes and learning how much more I could give. Met great people and lament that the current generation won't see those events with the barriers to races in the US. Was at a memorial for an early cycling friend; an adventurous type and a tough racer. A guy at the memorial re-introduced himself as an old competitor and close friend of the departed and popular friend. He almost teared up relating the 5 year effort to keep the Cascade Classic operating only to see it disappear after he passed on responsibilies. I thanked him for putting on the one race that repeatedly humbled me. C'est la vie.
 
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You weren't stupid and I hope you got some personal experiences that actually made it worthwhile. Sometimes it's getting over that hill that torments you with some extra gas or just a beautiful day in the country. That was my last Natz and he finished off the back. We knew there were many more gassers in the group and, every once in awhile they'd get caught. Then someone would remind me a got a retroactive win. Didn't change what I like about the sport and it was mostly being in great landscapes and learning how much more I could give. Met great people and lament that the current generation won't see those events with the barriers to races in the US. Was at a memorial for an early cycling friend; an adventurous type and a tough racer. A guy at the memorial re-introduced himself as an old competitor and close friend of the departed and popular friend. He almost teared up relating the 5 year effort to keep the Cascade Classic operating only to see it disappear after he passed on responsibilies. I thanked him for putting on the one race that repeatedly humbled me. C'est la vie.
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Well said brother! I get cynical about my racing stuff yes, but all in all I got to travel and live all over Europe, the US , Canada and South America and meet a lot of great folks. A lot of my close friends are from cycling, but there sure is that dark side to the sport. I have to justify it all somehow, so at times I have to tell myself it gave me that super work ethic and drive to what I've done outside the sport. Like you said, C'est la vie and we can't change anything at this point! The drawback now, is it does keep me from enjoying the just riding part as much as I should. I just hesitate to get to into it, so I keep it arms length.
 
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sam6 said:
I read that 80% of pro cyclists now 'have' asthma, is this really true?
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Well, I have exercise induced asthma (at least according to a doctor) when the ambient conditions are right. I moved somewhere more humid and with less ground-level ozone, and no longer have it. I also never had a problem except when exercising profusely. So it doesn't seem that strange to me that breathing really hard does have a correlation with asthma symptoms.
 
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Daniel Vysocan poped for CERA -
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...gan-provisionally-suspended-on-doping-charges
A doping case is once again a topic of discussion within the peloton and this time it's a former teammate of Peter Sagan at the Pierre Baguette Cycling Team, 20-year-old Czech prospect, Daniel Vysocan. ...According to the UCI, Vysocan returned his positive test for CERA on September 25th, two days before competing in the road race of the U23 World Championships in Zurich, a race in which he did not finish. As of the time of writing, there is no comment from the Pierre Baguette Cycling Team on the matter.
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see also https://velo.outsideonline.com/news...er-cera-positive-at-road-world-championships/

So Vysocon we can say was not racing on "pain y agua".
 
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