You’re right—they are totally different things. I haven’t seen similar research on adults, but the psych literature on children suggests that kids who kill or torture animals is an indicator of all kinds of future problems.
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Guys, we did it! Antonio Tiberi is in the same category of people as Bundy and Dahmer!
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Netflix Tour de France trailer leaked by new independent cycling media startup (run by many of the people previously behind CyclingTips):
View: https://mobile.twitter.com/EscapeCycling/status/1630700727655092224
View: https://mobile.twitter.com/EscapeCycling/status/1630700727655092224
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If this show will be a success like the F1 one, Madiot will reach Guenther Steiner levels of meme status
Not that he hasn't reached it inside the cycling community.
Not that he hasn't reached it inside the cycling community.
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Interesting that they're using clips from previous years:
Gilbert going into the ravine.
Madiot going a little crazy. Though, I suppose they just picked a random one...
Sagan deciding that gravity doesn't apply to him in SB.
Gilbert going into the ravine.
Madiot going a little crazy. Though, I suppose they just picked a random one...
Sagan deciding that gravity doesn't apply to him in SB.
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Say goodbye to 200km+ stages or racing when it rains. The Keith Yandle of professional cycling is here to save the day.
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Yandle broke the ironman streak in ice hockey, but by the end of it, it was all he was known for; he had become a soft, poorly-performing defenseman who shunned all contact and avoided going to the corners, and was even traded to a team that promised not to healthy scratch him no matter how badly he played in pursuit of that record, such that when he actually broke the record it was a completely damp squib, he was promptly scratched and somebody else took the record off him soon after, and despite what a stalwart player he'd been for many years to be in the position to be close to that record, because of what he became in the last couple of years of his career, his enduring legacy ended up being of a soft, weak player who didn't deserve his place and would shy away from anything that was too much like hard work.I like how you've used an obscure athlete to describe a better known one (to us)
Similarly, Adam Hansen for many years was a tough as nails, respected domestique who worked hard for his team in the Classics and as a rouleur in the Grand Tours, doing the donkey work. But after a while once it was noticed how many consecutive GTs he was doing, they started extending the streak and making a big deal of it like it was The Undertaker at Wrestlemania, and by the end, he wasn't even doing much of a job for the team, just being there to be there and extend his streak. He never did anything of note, usually if he did do his job for André Greipel he'd have finished his work and peeled off before the stage even made it to air, and the most memorable thing about his late career was having a tantrum because he didn't want to do a long stage in the rain, so just like Yandle, he became a guy getting selections as a charity case to keep his streak alive, and who was shying away from anything that looked too much like hard work.
If we get circa 2012 Adam Hansen in this role, then great. But sadly that's not the Adam Hansen I remember most anymore.
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Do you really think it was Adam Hansen who didn't want to do the stage ? He was merely the UCI rider's representative at the Giro and did the negotiations with the organisers on behalf of the riders. Anyway, hopefully, RCS have learned it is silly to have a pan-flat 250+ stage in stage 18 or 19 - Actually it's silly to have this type of stage full-stop.
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It really doesn't matter that much. 250km flat stages are not hard for the riders at all. Riders do under 200W in the peloton for 1 full exta hour boo hoo
It's really about the precedent. Riders don't want to race in the rain so they flatout refuse to race the parcours set out by the organiser? Please.
I doubt there would have been an issue if the stage was 150 or 170kms.
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I doubt there would've been an issue if riders didn't refuse to do their job that day.
If you're invited and selected for a race, don't undercut that race by refusing to race. It can harm the organiser to organise that race in the future.
Rain isn't part of the EWP. Dealing with weather is part of being a cyclist.
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