Giro 2012: Route Rumours / Our wishes

[Eshnar]

Sorry.

No, this one must be. Stages with a decent after a hard climb often give a lot of action. Im not satisfied with non Dolomites part of the Giro. The Cervinia looks like the Montevergine. It seems real mountains will start even later than in the TdF. Do you really like this route?

I really don't think Cervinia will be the only climb of the day. Near it there are a lot of tough climbs.

 

[Eshnar]

I put Tuttosport's rumours in the first post. I added the (supposed) type of the stage.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Are there only 4 MTF's, one of which is the 2nd Categogy Cervinia?

There were four MTFs in the 2008 race (the medium mountain finish at Pescocostanzo, Alpe di Pampeago, Passo Fedaia and the medium mountain finish at Monte Pora) and that didn't suffer (though it admittedly also had the Kronplatz ITT).

 

[Descender]

Sorry.

No, this one must be. Stages with a decent after a hard climb often give a lot of action. Im not satisfied with non Dolomites part of the Giro. The Cervinia looks like the Montevergine. It seems real mountains will start even later than in the TdF. Do you really like this route?

No I don't like this route, but it has more to do with the lack of proper ITT kms. And I agree with you that the real action might come too late.

In that sense, the leaked TdF route is much more to my liking.

But let's wait for the official presentation, perhaps we get a pleasant surprise.

 

[El Pistolero]

Giro route has been leaked as well

05-05 1. Herning - Herning (8,7 km, tijdrit= time trial)
06-05 2. Herning - Herning (206 km)
07-05 3. Horsens - Horsens (190km)
08-05 rustdag = rest day
09-05 4. Verona - Verona 32,3 km (ploegentijdrit=team time trial)
10-05 5. Modena - Fano 199km
11-05 6. Urbino - Porto Sant'Elpidio (207 km)
12-05 7. Recanati - Rocca di Cambio (202 km)
13-05 8. Sulmona - Lago Laceno (229 km)
14-05 9. San Giorgio nel Sannio - Frosinone (171 km)
15-05 10. Citavecchi - Assisi (187 km)
16-05 11. Assisi - Montecatini Terme (243 km)
17-05 12. Seravezza - Sestri Levante (157 km)
18-05 13. Savona - Cervere (121 km)
19-05 14. Cherasco - Cervinia (205 km)
20-05 15. Busto Arsizio - Lecco/Pian dei Resinelli (172 km)
21-05 rustdag = rest day
22-05 16. Limone del Garda-Pfalzen (Oos) (174 km)
23-05 17. Pfalzen (Oos)-Cortina d'Ampezzo (187 km)
24-05 18. San Vito Cadore-Vedelago (139 km)
25-05 19. Treviso - Alpe di Pampeago (197 km)
26-05 20. Val di Sole - Passo Stelvio (218 km)
27-05 21. Milano-Milano (31,5 km)

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Giro route has been leaked as well

05-05 1. Herning - Herning (8,7 km, tijdrit= time trial)
06-05 2. Herning - Herning (206 km)
07-05 3. Horsens - Horsens (190km)
08-05 rustdag
09-05 4. Verona - Verona 32,3 km (ploegentijdrit=team time trial)
10-05 5. Modena - Fano 199km
11-05 6. Urbino - Porto Sant'Elpidio (207 km)
12-05 7. Recanati - Rocca di Cambio (202 km)
13-05 8. Sulmona - Lago Laceno (229 km)
14-05 9. San Giorgio nel Sannio - Frosinone (171 km)
15-05 10. Citavecchi - Assisi (187 km)
16-05 11. Assisi - Montecatini Terme (243 km)
17-05 12. Seravezza - Sestri Levante (157 km)
18-05 13. Savona - Cervere (121 km)
19-05 14. Cherasco - Cervinia (205 km)
20-05 15. Busto Arsizio - Lecco/Pian dei Resinelli (172 km)
21-05 rustdag
22-05 16. Limone del Garda-Pfalzen (Oos) (174 km)
23-05 17. Pfalzen (Oos)-Cortina d'Ampezzo (187 km)
24-05 18. San Vito Cadore-Vedelago (139 km)
25-05 19. Treviso - Alpe di Pampeago (197 km)
26-05 20. Val di Sole - Passo Stelvio (218 km)
27-05 21. Milano-Milano (31,5 km)

Someone care to translate that in to sprint, hill, mountain please?

 

[El Pistolero]

Someone care to translate that in to sprint, hill, mountain please?

Rocca di Cambio: http://cyclingcols.com/asp/colframe.asp?cl=1486
Lago Laceno: http://www.climbbybike.com/profile.asp?Climbprofile=Valico-Lago-Laceno&MountainID=3850
Cervinia: http://cyclingcols.com/asp/colframe.asp?cl=158
Pian dei Resinelli: http://climbbybike.com/profile.asp?Climbprofile=Piani-dei-Resinelli&MountainID=3251
Alpe di Pampeago: http://cyclingcols.com/asp/colframe.asp?cl=365
Stelvio: http://cyclingcols.com/profiles/StelvioS.gif

^ MTF

There ya go

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Rocca di Cambio
Lago Laceno
Cervinia
Pian dei Resinelli
Alpe di Pampeago
Stelvio

^ MTF

And how many nice flat stages?

 

[El Pistolero]

And how many nice flat stages?

I only know the Danish stages that are flat

Someone with better Italian geography skills should come and answer that question.

 

[Zoncolan]

The only thing I dislike about recent Giro parcours is the lack of ITT kilometers (2009 being the exception of course).
They should have made the Milan ITT longer and have an ITT instead of the TTT in Verona and we'd have a much better parcours.
I wonder if Frank Schleck at least will grow a pair and try for this? I can't see Bruyneel allowing Andy a go.

 

[El Pistolero]

The only thing I dislike about recent Giro parcours is the lack of ITT kilometers (2009 being the exception of course).
They should have made the Milan ITT longer and have an ITT instead of the TTT in Verona and we'd have a much better parcours.
I wonder if Frank Schleck at least will grow a pair and try for this? I can't see Bruyneel allowing Andy a go.

One mountain time trial, a prologue and a 55km time trial would have been perfect. I like mountain time trials a lot, so that's the only thing I'm going to miss this year.

 

[Duartista]

16-05 11. Assisi - Montecatini Terme (243 km)

Is this the stage that is rumoured to have strade bianche?

 

[jens_attacks]

another 40 km flat itt and it would have been perfect.just 40 km of itt is ridiculous.
it will be a disaster for me if rujano won't win with this route

 

[Mellow Velo]

Better than that TDF shambles, but it would be almost impossible to produce a Giro as bad.
Having said that, I'm not very impressed.
2012 set to be a bit of a barren GT year.
Still, there's always the limpics.

 

[El Pistolero]

Better than that TDF shambles, but it would be almost impossible to produce a Giro as bad.
Having said that, I'm not very impressed.
2012 set to be a bit of a barren GT year.
Still, there's always the limpics.

What's so bad about this Giro?

The Tour will probably suck and the Vuelta always sucks, but at least there's hope with this Giro route.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Schlecks better go to Italy!

 

[Mellow Velo]

I only know the Danish stages that are flat

Someone with better Italian geography skills should come and answer that question.

Don't get me wrong. It's nowhere as shite as Le Tour, plus I expect a few nasty surprises will turn up where least expected.
However, a couple of those "mtfs" would be more at home in it's French counterpart.

 

[The Hitch]

Someone care to translate that in to sprint, hill, mountain please?

There will be more gaps on Tonnale Aprica Mortirolo Stelvio than in the entire TDF

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

There will be more gaps on Tonnale Aprica Mortirolo Stelvio than in the entire TDF

To be honest, I'm more interested in how many genuine sprint stages there are.

 

[Descender]

40 ITT kms = automatic bad route.

 

[Fus087]

So, no Strade Bianche stage finishing in Siena?

I'll just have to find a working stream in early March then...

 

[killswitch]

So, no Strade Bianche stage finishing in Siena?

I'll just have to find a working stream in early March then...

Where did you read that?

 

[Fus087]

Where did you read that?

I think it was on one of the first pages of this thread.

 

[jens_attacks]

well guys we didn't talk about it but know it's certain.there is no way basso will do le tour.he will go for il giro again and nibali will be the leader in france no doubt

 

[Descender]

The Cervinia stage will only have the final MTF and nothing before that... no San Pantaleon... shame.

By contrast, the one the day after that, Busto Arsizio-Pian dei Resinelli will probably feature some climbs of the Lecco area before the final climb.