Giro 2012: Route Rumours / Our wishes

[Zoncolan]

well guys we didn't talk about it but know it's certain.there is no way basso will do le tour.he will go for il giro again and nibali will be the leader in france no doubt

That would be the smart way to go. Although the stage to Cortina alone might make this edition tricky for Basso.
With the Tour route out, I'm hoping for a stronger startlist at the Giro than previously expected.

 

[Pippo_San]

To be honest, I'm more interested in how many genuine sprint stages there are.

6 Maggio Herning – Herning (206 km)
7 Maggio Horsens – Horsens (190 Km)
10 Maggio Modena – Fano (199 km)
14 Maggio San Giorgio nel Sannio – Frosinone (171 km)
18 Maggio Savona – Cervere (121 km)
24 Maggio San Vito di Cadore – Vedelago (139 km)

these should be the guaranteed sprint stages...the others...who knows

 

[luckyboy]

Looking better than the Tour obviously, but not that great though. Should've had an individual TT instead of the TTT.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

40 ITT kms = automatic bad route.

Yeah, that's at least 20 kms too many.

 

[gregrowlerson]

There will be more gaps on Tonnale Aprica Mortirolo Stelvio than in the entire TDF

LOL

I really like today - perhaps I'm a bigger fan of the parcours stuff then the races themselves, which is a little scary

 

[The Hitch]

LOL

I really like today - perhaps I'm a bigger fan of the parcours stuff then the races themselves, which is a little scary

Everyone loves the parcors stuff.

The problem is this should have come after the season finished, so we would have something to talk about, not when Lombardia and Piemont are still to come.

 

[Ferminal]

The problem is this should have come after the season finished, so we would have something to talk about, not when Lombardia and Piemont are still to come.

At least that problem will not exist next year

 

[Eshnar]

http://www.michelebufalino.com/2011/10/10/svelato-in-anteprima-il-percorso-ufficiale-del-giro/they hacked gazzetta's site. There are length and difficulty of each stage. (Stelle means stars). Cervinia has 5 stars so it can't be the only climb of the day

 

[Kwibus]

Is this the stage that is rumoured to have strade bianche?

Very likely indeed. It goes through the Strade Bianchi terrain.
Great terrain anyways. Tuscany is awesome.

edit:
16 Maggio Assisi – Montecatini Terme (243 Km) 2 stelle

Looks like they will only ride on the main roads. The shortest route from Assisi to Montecatini is 220km so wih just 23 extra km they won't divert from the main roads much.
Such a shame. I've been to Tuscany twice now and the possibilities seem endless to me.

 

[Descender]

Yeah, that's at least 20 kms too many.

You have no clue.

 

[Descender]

http://www.michelebufalino.com/2011/10/10/svelato-in-anteprima-il-percorso-ufficiale-del-giro/they hacked gazzetta's site. There are length and difficulty of each stage. (Stelle means stars). Cervinia has 5 stars so it can't be the only climb of the day

EDIT: I found a shorter route. This makes it borderline possible to include San Pantaleon. This is Cherasco through St Pantaleon to Valtournenche, which is 8kms from the top of Cervinia proper.

Still, it's close enough that I'm intrigued... perhaps they start from the northern outskirts of Cherasco?

 

[Eshnar]

I have no time to check now. Control the length of the stage with col zuccore instead of pantaleon. Or with col du joux

 

[Descender]

I have no time to check now. Control the length of the stage with col zuccore instead of pantaleon. Or with col du joux

With Joux, same situation. Just some kms long:

EDIT: With Colle Tzecore (I like Zuccore though ). This FITS with some kms to spare.

 

[Eshnar]

Good. Zuccore/tzecore (I guess it's italian/french) is a great climb

 

[Descender]

Good. Zuccore/tzecore (I guess it's italian/french) is a great climb

Zuccore sounds like Zucchero.

It is a great climb indeed.

 

[Eshnar]

I edited the first post with the route and the difficulty.

Apart from the usual lack of ITT, the route seems good. But I have to look at the route of stage 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15 and 19 to be sure of it.

 

[Descender]

Mauro Facoltosi bets on the Tzecore too:

"Strada liscia da Cherasco a Berriaz (Montjovet) poi Colle d'Arlaz, tratto finale dello Zuccore, discesa a Saint Vincent e salita finale a Cervinia."

 

[Zoncolan]

My wishes:
riders looking at the Tour parcours saying: "**** it! I'm doing the Giro next year!"
F. Schleck, Scarponi, Gesink (maybe another young Rabo), Gadret, Anton, Nieve, Rujano, Purito, Basso, Intxausti, Vanendert, Rolland, Uran, Poels, Garzelli, Taaramae, Pozzovivo, Duarte...all decide to do the Giro instead

 

[Lupetto]

Mauro Facoltosi bets on the Tzecore too:

"Strada liscia da Cherasco a Berriaz (Montjovet) poi Colle d'Arlaz, tratto finale dello Zuccore, discesa a Saint Vincent e salita finale a Cervinia."

5a tappa: Modena – Fano (199 Km)

Percorso "liscio", senza divagazione dalla Via Emilia prima e dall'Adriatica poi. Quindi: Modena - Bologna - Rimini - Pesaro - Fano. Inserire anche solo una deviazione porterebbe a superare i 200 Km

7a tappa: Recanati – Rocca di Cambio (202 km)

Scartata l'ipotesi via mare (Recanati - San Benedetto - Giulianova - Teramo - Passo Capannelle - L'Aquila - Rocca di Cambio) perchè sfora il chilometraggio, dovrebbero fare: Recanati - Macerata - Amandola - Acquasante Terme - Amatrice - L'Aquila - Rocca di Cambio

8a tappa: Sulmona - Lago Laceno (229 km)

Per starci nel chilometraggio dovrebbero fare: Sulmona - Roccaraso - Macerone - Isernia - Bojano - superstrada fino alle porte di Benevento - Benevento - Avellino - Volturara Irpina. A questo punto potrebbero andare direttamente a Bagnoli Irpino e salire al lago, oppure passare per il Passo Cruci e Montella


9a tappa: San Giorgio nel Sannio – Frosinone (171 km)

In questo caso non mi torna il chilometraggio segnalato. Seguendo l'itinerario che parè più diretto (SS 7 da San Giorgio a Capua passando per Benevento e Caserta, SS 6 da Capua a Frosinone passando per Cassino) sono tra i 190 e i 200 Km


12a tappa: Seravezza – Sestri Levante (157 km)

Seguendo la strada più diretta tra Seravezza e La Spezia (una cinquantina di chilometri) e poi appiccicandoci il finale della tappa del 2006 (75 Km), fanno circa 125 Km. La trentina di chilometri in più potrebbero prevedere un'ampio giro in Versilia oppure l'inserimento di qualche difficoltà nel finale (come lo strappo verso Villa Tissani).

14a tappa: Cherasco – Cervinia (205 km)

Strada liscia da Cherasco a Berriaz (Montjovet) poi Colle d'Arlaz, tratto finale dello Zuccore, discesa a Saint Vincent e salita finale a Cervinia.

15a tappa: Busto - Arsizio - Piani Resinelli (172 km)

Le quattro stelle assegnate a questa tappa dicono una sola cosa (scartato il Muro di Sormano): si salirà sulla Valcava. Scartata anche la possibilità che dopo la Valcava si vada sul Culmine San Pietro (partendo da Busto il percorso diverrebbe troppo lungo) dovrebbe fare: Busto Arsizio - traversata della Brianza - Valcava - Sant'Omobono - Capizzone - Colle Valpiana - Roncola - Pontida - Lecco - Piani Resinelli. Al massimo prima del passaggio da Lecco potrebbero inserire Consonno e/o Villa Vergano

16a tappa: Limone sul Garda – Falzes/Pfalzen (174 km)
Non sarà una tappa di montagna: Limone - Trento - Bolzano - Chienes - Issengo (culmine salita) - Falzes (arrivo in falsopiano). Escludo Terento perchè lo faranno il giorno dopo e perchè aumenterebbe il chilometraggio

19a tappa: Treviso – Alpe di Pampeago (197km)
Le voci che ho trovato in rete parlano, per il finale di questo tragitto: Feltre - Roa - Castel Tesino - Borgo Valsugana - Manghen - Alpe di Pampeago - Passo di Pampeago - Passo di Lavazè - Stava - Passo di Pampeago

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[guncha]

40 ITT kms = automatic bad route.

Yes.. but 2MTFs in high mountains, one high mountain GC stage with decent and one MTF in medium mountains is crappy route. I'm afraid the route of Giro in 2012 will be better than Tour's. It is hardly possible to make a worse route than TDF 2012.

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

Coming back to this late so don't know if this has been posted, but what a mother the Stelvio is:

 

[craig1985]

Man I would love to descend off the Stelvio.

 

[Eshnar]

Coming back to this late so don't know if this has been posted, but what a mother the Stelvio is:

Already posted
anyway they're climbing the other side.

 

[Moncoutie]

Man I would love to descend off the Stelvio.

Can you imagine?!

 

[Descender]

Yes.. but 2MTFs in high mountains, one high mountain GC stage with decent and one MTF in medium mountains is crappy route. I'm afraid the route of Giro in 2012 will be better than Tour's. It is hardly possible to make a worse route than TDF 2012.

I beg to differ.

All I'm saying here is you CAN'T possibly make a good GT route with a total of 40 ITT kms. Even less so if most of them come in the last stage.