Giro 2013 rumours

[Eshnar]

But do we know that the finish is at the summit?

Of course not. But if Valloire pays, I highly doubt it will be for watching riders descending.

 

[will10]

TREVISO-ALPE DI PAMPEAGO, 198 KM (Worst raced ever Giro high mountain stage)/snip

Surely not!

"So, everyone happy to just cruise up the Mortirolo as a group? Cool, thanks guys"

 

[Eshnar]

Surely not!

"So, everyone happy to just cruise up the Mortirolo as a group? Cool, thanks guys"

Ok, I tend to forget horrible memories
But those stage had at least a few reasons to be dull. Alpe Di Pampeago this year was one of the best designed stages I ever saw and the outcome was simply shameful.

 

[Parrulo]

wasn't that the stage with the god awful weather up the gavia?

 

[Eshnar]

wasn't that the stage with the god awful weather up the gavia?

What u mean?
If you meant the epic 1988 stage, you're just 20 years wrong

 

[Parrulo]

What u mean?
If you meant the epic 1988 stage, you're just 20 years wrong

not that awful but still pretty bad weather if i recall correctly.

was that the stage where contador was dropped on the gavia but no1 attacked because they thought they could drop him later and ended up not doing it?

di luca did lose 5 minutes on that stage tho

 

[Red Rick]

not that awful but still pretty bad weather if i recall correctly.

was that the stage where contador was dropped on the gavia but no1 attacked because they thought they could drop him later and ended up not doing it?

di luca did lose 5 minutes on that stage tho

Could be cause Contador has only raced on the Gavia once

 

[Eshnar]

not that awful but still pretty bad weather if i recall correctly.

was that the stage where contador was dropped on the gavia but no1 attacked because they thought they could drop him later and ended up not doing it?

di luca did lose 5 minutes on that stage tho

No, it was the stage to Fedaia, AC was dropped on Giau which was the third climb of the day.

 

[Parrulo]

No, it was the stage to Fedaia, AC was dropped on Giau which was the third climb of the day.

oh my bad, you are right ofc

 

[will10]

not that awful but still pretty bad weather if i recall correctly.

was that the stage where contador was dropped on the gavia but no1 attacked because they thought they could drop him later and ended up not doing it?

di luca did lose 5 minutes on that stage tho

One of the few days at Il Giro where Di Luca seemed human and was actually tired from his antics with Falco the day before.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

The Rettenbachferner, if used, would indeed be immense; one of the most logical super-stages you could ever hope to design if you put it in the Giro too - Passo di Monte Giovo (15km @ 7,5%) and Passo Rombo/Timmelsjoch (29,1km @ 6,2%) link together perfectly before depositing the riders at the base of the Rettenbachferner, which is like the Mortirolo, but at 1000m higher altitude. It also wears some of its hardest gradients right near the bottom, breaking the field apart early.

If you still aren't satisfied with the difficulty even though there is no flat at all between the climbs, you could always add the (easier side of) the Passo Pennes, the descent of which deposits you right at the base of Monte Giovo. From Bolzano you have a long period of false uphill flat before the road changes tack to 14km @ 6,3% (the final 8km of which are at 8,6%), then the three as mentioned.

As it is, however, it looks more likely that the Austrian stage will be over in the eastermost corner of Italy, and we've already seen some of what it will entail. And it looks like to me the best approach in that neck of the woulds would have been (i.e. isn't) either Passo di Pramollo from Pontebba into Austria (13,4km @ 7,2%) followed by the brutally hard Egger Alm (10,0km @ 8,6%), or the other, slightly easier side of Egger Alm followed by the crushing Austrian side of Pramollo (called the Naßfeldpass) - 11,6km @ 8,1% with some really punishing sections.

The latter option would then allow you to connect it to the last 9km of Cason di Lanza, which are vicious - roughly 8,5-9%, then descend to finish in Paularo or Sutrio.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Main dolomite passes are:
Fedaia, Giau, Pordoi, Campolongo, Gardena, Sella, San Pellegrino, Rolle, Valparola, Duran, Falzarego, Forcella Staulanza, Furcia ( i think this are the most important, but i might have forgetten some), plus as final climb Tre cime di Lavaredo and Rifugio Gardeccia.
This year only the stage to Cortina was strictly speaking a dolomites stage.
At most the Pampeago stage can be considered as one, since Pampeago is actually below the Latemar, which is a dolomite mountain.

Luckily, the mad house have been talking on this subject>

The Dolomites are a very defined and narrow set of mountains.

Main dolomite passes are:
Fedaia, Giau, Pordoi, Campolongo, Gardena, Sella, San Pellegrino, Rolle, Valparola, Duran, Falzarego, Forcella Staulanza, Furcia Passo Delle Erbe, plus as final climb Tre cime di Lavaredo and Rifugio Gardeccia.
Also, the Giro descent side of the Manghen and the Pampeago, which lies below a Dolomite.

Note: No Mortirolo, Zoncolan, Monte Crostis in that list, so the seriously steep stuff lies either in the Eastern Alps, (MR) or the Carnic Alps (the other 2)

Then you have the "tall boys", Messrs Gavia and Stelvio. (Alps)

Hard to generalize with Italian mountains, but they tend to mostly fall into 2 catagories: Shorter than the long French stuff, but a lot steeper.
Slightly shorter than the long French stuff, but a bit steeper.
The roads are mostly a lot narrower with all grades of quality.......

Having said all of that, we then have the Colle delle Finestre.
Located very close to the French Alps, as long as a french climb, seriously steep and unsurfaced for half it's length.

 

[McLovin]

http://alpesdusud.alpes1.com/infos/infos-locales?id_news=21707

"Le Tour d'Italie pourrait aussi faire étape en haut du col du Galibier en septembre 2013."

 

[Eshnar]

http://alpesdusud.alpes1.com/infos/infos-locales?id_news=21707

"Le Tour d'Italie pourrait aussi faire étape en haut du col du Galibier en septembre 2013."

That would reduce the risk of snow

 

[Lupetto]

 

[Eshnar]

well... nothing new then

 

[Ferminal]

So a sprint stage to start?

 

[The Hitch]

So a sprint stage to start?

Based on how they say it will touch many areas?

From CN

Route of opening stage still to be decided

The 2013 Giro d’Italia will start in Naples on May 4, although RCS Sport has yet to decide if the race will begin with a time trial or a road stage. It will be the Giro’s first stage finish in Naples since 1996 and the first time in fifty years that the race has started in the city.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

I think it will be a cadel friendly route.

 

[auscyclefan94]

I think it will be a cadel friendly route.

I hope so and I hope he competes in the Giro next year! He could finish his career by winning the Giro and his palmares will be something to behold.

 

[Eshnar]

I think it will be a cadel friendly route.

based on what?

 

[Zam_Olyas]

based on what?

Based on what i think, i am not saying it will be, just my opinion as they will want him to ride il giro. Moreover he is the unwanted creepy brother-in-law.

 

[ilmaffe]

I hope that in 2013 or soon they will come back on Fauniera, it's a fantastic climb and next year it's going to be 10 years since the last time...I really miss it

 

[l.Harm]

I was just wondering about the 2013 route, don't ask me why

But I was wondering how many time trials would be there, and what's the latest news about the route. I know it will start in Naples, but that's the only thing.

 

[Eshnar]

a while ago it was rumoured a hilly TT in Vicenza. Dunno now.
Last thing I heard is about the rumoured MTF To Galibier (from north). It will start from Bardonecchia (that is to say, they'll climb Moncenisio)