Giro 2013 rumours

[airstream]

Wiggins is not Basso. He will catch Nibali on power straight pieces. Vincenzo needs either technically difficult downhill or cooked Wiggins.

 

[Eshnar]

BREAKING NEWS
There will be a mountain time trial from Mori to Polsa.

According to the article that wrote this news, the MTT will be the only stage in Trentino. That would rule out the Val Senales finish. And the article adds that this MTT will be in the "final days". I assume they mean the last week.
This would lead to redefine completely the 10 final stages
I'll try to figure out something.

 

[The Hitch]

BREAKING NEWS
There will be a mountain time trial from Mori to Polsa.

According to the article that wrote this news, the MTT will be the only stage in Trentino. That would rule out the Val Senales finish. And the article adds that this MTT will be in the "final days". I assume they mean the last week.
This would lead to redefine completely the 10 final stages
I'll try to figure out something.

Presumably the post rest day slot where they had Nvegal last year and Kronplatz the year after.

 

[Eshnar]

Presumably the post rest day slot where they had Nvegal last year and Kronplatz the year after.

it should be it, yes, but it's still to understand:
- wtf they'll put on the second weekend, seeing they don't go to Trentino.
- starting the third week in Trentino it will be a long way to reach Galibier and come back.
- With this TT I begin to feel less confident about Vicenza the Giro with 4 TTs?

 

[airstream]

wiggo needs one thing - to come... i'm a fan of diversity. the different giros are needed. i wonder what course was the softest for the last 15-20 years? probably, 2002?

 

[Netserk]

BREAKING NEWS
There will be a mountain time trial from Mori to Polsa.

According to the article that wrote this news, the MTT will be the only stage in Trentino. That would rule out the Val Senales finish. And the article adds that this MTT will be in the "final days". I assume they mean the last week.
This would lead to redefine completely the 10 final stages
I'll try to figure out something.

What a **** MTT!

I want Crostis up and down NOW!

 

[Netserk]

Wiggins is not Basso. He will catch Nibali on power straight pieces. Vincenzo needs either technically difficult downhill or cooked Wiggins.

Wiggo is a cr@ppy descender. Not as cr@ppy as Basso, but close.

 

[Eshnar]

What a **** MTT!

I want Crostis up and down NOW!

And I want a 350kms long dolomitic stage.

 

[Eshnar]

I'll try to put it this way:

1 Napoli - Napoli [flat] (Napoli is official. Still not clear if TTT or road stage)
2 Ischia TTT ****(circuit if Napoli is TTT)
3 ??? - ???
4 ??? - ???
5 ??? - ???
6 ??? - ???
7 ??? - ???
8 ??? - ???
9 ??? - Firenze [3x Worlds circuit] *****
REST (transfer to Cordenons)
10 Cordenons - Malghe Del Montasio [MTF] *****
11 Tarvisio (or Cave Del Predil) - Vajont [Hilly]*****
12 Longarone - Treviso [flat] *****
13 Vicenza ITT ****
14 ??? - ???
15 ??? - Gavia [MTF] ***
REST
16 Mori - Polsa [MTT] ****
17 ??? - Parma(or Busseto) [flat] ***
18 ??? - Cherasco (?) [hilly] ****
19 Cervere - Galibier [MTF] ****
20 Bardonecchia - ???
21 Milano ITT **

The stage to Galibier becomes much longer and Bardonecchia is now the start of the next stage. I had to do this because I really don't think the Galibier will be stage 20 (it would be a monster transfer from there to Milan)

 

[SafeBet]

And I want a 350kms long dolomitic stage.

We all want it.

 

[Eshnar]

wiggo needs one thing - to come... i'm a fan of diversity. the different giros are needed. i wonder what course was the softest for the last 15-20 years? probably, 2002?

2004 and 2002. Imho 2004 edges it.

 

[Descender]

it should be it, yes, but it's still to understand:
- wtf they'll put on the second weekend, seeing they don't go to Trentino.
- starting the third week in Trentino it will be a long way to reach Galibier and come back.
- With this TT I begin to feel less confident about Vicenza the Giro with 4 TTs?

Didn't the 2008 Giro have 4 TTs?

 

[roundabout]

Yes. Yes it did.

 

[Eshnar]

Didn't the 2008 Giro have 4 TTs?

yes
having 4 tts wasn't that uncommon in the good old days

 

[Descender]

2008 is the old days already?

 

[Eshnar]

2008 is the old days already?

Considering the last 3 years of TTing, having back 4 TTs would be quite a shock

 

[Descender]

I'll give you that. But the same thing could be said about this year's TdF and they did it...

 

[Bavarianrider]

BREAKING NEWS
There will be a mountain time trial from Mori to Polsa.

According to the article that wrote this news, the MTT will be the only stage in Trentino. That would rule out the Val Senales finish. And the article adds that this MTT will be in the "final days". I assume they mean the last week.
This would lead to redefine completely the 10 final stages
I'll try to figure out something.

That would be a fantastic mountain for a TT.
However, a MT means that therew ill only be one real TT again, which would suck

 

[Eshnar]

That would be a fantastic mountain for a TT.
However, a MT means that therew ill only be one real TT again, which would suck

yes to both statements.
I still hope they'll put the second ITT though.

 

[Eshnar]

The MTT seems confirmed by various sources. Even Moreno Moser tweeted about that a few minutes ago.

 

[Peccio89]

I'll try to put it this way:

1 Napoli - Napoli [flat] (Napoli is official. Still not clear if TTT or road stage)
2 Ischia TTT ****(circuit if Napoli is TTT)
3 ??? - ???
4 ??? - ???
5 ??? - ???
6 ??? - ???
7 ??? - ???
8 ??? - ???
9 ??? - Firenze [3x Worlds circuit] *****
REST (transfer to Cordenons)
10 Cordenons - Malghe Del Montasio [MTF] *****
11 Tarvisio (or Cave Del Predil) - Vajont [Hilly]*****
12 Longarone - Treviso [flat] *****
13 Vicenza ITT ****
14 ??? - ???
15 ??? - Gavia [MTF] ***
REST
16 Mori - Polsa [MTT] ****
17 ??? - Parma(or Busseto) [flat] ***
18 ??? - Cherasco (?) [hilly] ****
19 Cervere - Galibier [MTF] ****
20 Bardonecchia - ???
21 Milano ITT **

The stage to Galibier becomes much longer and Bardonecchia is now the start of the next stage. I had to do this because I really don't think the Galibier will be stage 20 (it would be a monster transfer from there to Milan)

Do you think it's impossible to have the finish of the Giro in Torino, in order to have the Galibier stage on a Saturday ?
It's not really in Giro style to have a non GC related stage the last Saturday of the race. And starting from Bardonecchia going into Lombardy it's difficult to imagine a difficult stage. Maybe Mottarone but still with no Simoni around it's not enough for the last saturday of the Giro.

And i'm not so sure that there will be no Val senales, because that is not in Trentino but in Alto Adige, so two different tourism authority with which making agreements.

 

[Eshnar]

Do you think it's impossible to have the finish of the Giro in Torino, in order to have the Galibier stage on a Saturday ?
It's not really in Giro style to have a non GC related stage the last Saturday of the race. And starting from Bardonecchia going into Lombardy it's difficult to imagine a difficult stage. Maybe Mottarone but still with no Simoni around it's not enough for the last saturday of the Giro.

they could make a mountain stage in Piemonte and then have the final ITT in Milan. Last year they transfer'd from the Stelvio... pretty long transfer indeed. Technically they could have the Galibier stage on Saturday and do the huge transfer, but... the Giro ending (basically) in France?
As for Torino, I don't think so. No rumours on that side.

And i'm not so sure that there will be no Val senales, because that is not in Trentino but in Alto Adige, so two different tourism authority with which making agreements.

Yes it's possible that the article meant Trentino as the actual one, and not the whole region. I'll put again Val Senales in the provisional route until the mistery is solved.

1 Napoli - Napoli [flat] (Napoli is official. Still not clear if TTT or road stage)
2 Ischia TTT ****(circuit if Napoli is TTT)
3 ??? - ???
4 ??? - ???
5 ??? - ???
6 ??? - ???
7 ??? - ???
8 ??? - ???
9 ??? - Firenze [3x Worlds circuit] *****
REST (transfer to Cordenons)
10 Cordenons - Malghe Del Montasio [MTF] *****
11 Tarvisio (or Cave Del Predil) - Vajont [Hilly]*****
12 Longarone - Treviso [flat] *****
13 Vicenza ITT ****
14 ??? - Val Senales [MTF] ***
15 ??? - Gavia [MTF] ***
REST
16 Mori - Polsa [MTT] ****
17 ??? - Parma(or Busseto) [flat] ***
18 ??? - Cherasco (?) [hilly] ****
19 Cervere - Galibier [MTF] ****
20 Bardonecchia - ???
21 Milano ITT **

 

[roundabout]

1994 and 2000 had finishes in Sestriere after going to France.

Anything else in the vicinity, because I wouldn't really like it to be Sestriere again?

 

[Eshnar]

Anything else in the vicinity, because I wouldn't really like it to be Sestriere again?

Well you have the whole friggin' Alpine arc
I'd suggest the awesome Pontechianale 2003.

 

[roundabout]

I meant some big ski station.

But I like your way of thinking.

Edit: and maybe something that brings the race closer to Milan.