Giro 2017, stage 10: Foligno - Montefalco 39,8km (ITT)

[fowlyetti]

This sets up an exciting Giro to come!!

... hopefully

 

[Lexman]

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GC for now:

Dumoulin
Mollema
Nibali
Quintana
Pinot
Pozzovivo
Zakarin
Amador
Jungels
Kruijswijk
Thomas

Mollema to podium?

Pozzo still top 10 of the GC?

 

[staubsauger]

Quintana certainly needs to make Stelvio his Galibier if he wants to win this Giro!

 

[Velolover2]

Re: Re:

GC for now:

Dumoulin
Mollema
Nibali
Quintana
Pinot
Pozzovivo
Zakarin
Amador
Jungels
Kruijswijk
Thomas

Mollema to podium?

Quintana still in 2nd place

I see. But Mollema can still podium.

 

[huangho]

Tom D has no team for multimountain stages, that will be a serious issue... I don't think it would be a problem for movistar.

 

[Gigs_98]

I actually think Quintana is still the clear favorite. He lost more than I expected but that doesn't really change my expectations for the final result. Still this is really great for the race.

 

[b.broadhurst]

Today's result makes me sad, G would have been proper in the mix. Such a shame about the crash.

 

[woodburn]

People who say he pulled a Wiggins have no clue hwat they are talking abot. They have no eyes in their head either.

You don't see any parallels between Wiggins's 2012 Tour performance, where he climbed very well and also dominated the TT's?

No, because Wiggins dropped 10 Kilos plus, became ultra ultra skinny and yet had the same power as he had before. Dumolin simply improved in the mountains and kept his weight and power.

Dumoulin has dropped weight ..the man himself said so ..Plus Wiggins improved slowly in mountaisn too
They are very similiar riders ...but go ahead SKy haters see what you want

Tom showed his climbing ability 4-5 years earlier than Wiggins, though, which is significant to show they're not as similar as you portray.

 

[Velolover2]

Re: Re:

GC for now:

Dumoulin
Mollema
Nibali
Quintana
Pinot
Pozzovivo
Zakarin
Amador
Jungels
Kruijswijk
Thomas

Mollema to podium?

Pozzo still top 10 of the GC?

Yeah. I had a 1 minute gap on Zakarin. The next rider behind him.

 

[HelloDolly]

The thing is Nibali has to take advantage of th Movistar v Dumoulin fight that will ensue...he is a better climber than Dumoulin esp in the 3rd week and a better TTer than Quintana ....there must be way he can get them to cancel each other out ???

 

[woodburn]

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Quintana certainly needs to make Stelvio his Galibier if he wants to win this Giro!

He should go on Mortriolo and make Dumoulin chase the entire day.

 

[ontheroad]

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Big Tom to blow the field apart here and be the new favourite come Tuesday evening. Between the 2 TT's Tom will take 3 mins on Quintana which he will have to claw back in the mountains. He has got 30 seconds already so will have about a further 2 1/2 mins to preserve. It's doable if he just keeps riding to limit losses which I think is his gameplan.

Just as predicted. In fact the gap was even bigger than expected. Dumoulin simply has to defend his position in the mountains all the way to Milan. If he goes into the TT less than a minute down then the Giro is in the bag. So effectively he has 3 1/2 minutes to play with. That should be enough barring a bad day.

 

[DFA123]

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Not too bad for Quintana anyways, but when you are going up against Dumoulin, this will be the norm on these 40 kilometres time trials. Which is superb for the race.

It's kind of like what he had against Froome at the Vuelta. Another Formigal type stage later in the race is something to look forward to for sure!

 

[HelloDolly]

I am not talking about cheating but as a rider Dumoulin is similiar to Wiggins....Wiggins lost 10 kGs as put on 8 in winter ...but never lost 10 Kilos form his 2009 Tour weight or earlier race weight...your arguments make no sense ...pointless

 

[woodburn]

Re: Re:

Big Tom to blow the field apart here and be the new favourite come Tuesday evening. Between the 2 TT's Tom will take 3 mins on Quintana which he will have to claw back in the mountains. He has got 30 seconds already so will have about a further 2 1/2 mins to preserve. It's doable if he just keeps riding to limit losses which I think is his gameplan.

Just as predicted. In fact the gap was even bigger than expected. Dumoulin simply has to defend his position in the mountains all the way to Milan. If he goes into the TT less than a minute down then the Giro is in the bag. So effectively he has 3 1/2 minutes to play with. That should be enough barring a bad day.

He could lose 3 1/2 minutes on the stage to Bormio if Quinanta drops him on Mortirolo. Without a team to chase effectively, he'll be on his own most of stage.

 

[huangho]

 

[luckyboy]

Re: Re:

Big Tom to blow the field apart here and be the new favourite come Tuesday evening. Between the 2 TT's Tom will take 3 mins on Quintana which he will have to claw back in the mountains. He has got 30 seconds already so will have about a further 2 1/2 mins to preserve. It's doable if he just keeps riding to limit losses which I think is his gameplan.

Just as predicted. In fact the gap was even bigger than expected. Dumoulin simply has to defend his position in the mountains all the way to Milan. If he goes into the TT less than a minute down then the Giro is in the bag. So effectively he has 3 1/2 minutes to play with. That should be enough barring a bad day.

Simply? He lost 5 minutes in one mountain stage to tired Quintana at the 2015 Vuelta

 

[Guybrush]

amused by the bipolarity in this forum

 

[Escarabajo]

If you take Tom out of the picture, it wasn't as disastrous for Quintana as we think.

Now, Pinot and Nibali!, not good.

 

[hfer07]

I would like Tom to smash it remorselessly & put like 3 to 4 minutes on Quintanita, so we can have a thrilling Giro going forward

Nibs will do well, Pinot can surprise big time, as he has shown his TT skills recently, so definitely is going to be an exciting stage to watch

except for Pinot - Don't say I didn't tell you so

 

[SafeBet]

I think Quintana did well, especially in the final. He said he was expecting a bit better, but 45 seconds behind Nibbles is ok.
Disappointing performance by Pinot.

Third week is gonna be fun

 

[Googolplex]

Splits: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rvXLKnGxZdvfD5VTAbEUdN2Y9NB3z6OgfPc0UIzaJrA/edit?usp=sharing

 

[SeriousSam]

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Lol, despite the fact i said like 133x Nibali is past his prime, he's in the mix. And well in the mix!

I think you and me both never got over the fact that Nibali seems unable to reach the level he had in 2014. But he's still very good.

 

[DFA123]

I would summarise today from a GC perspective as:

Winners:

Dumoulin - Kind of obvious. He did what was expected, but he still had to go out and perform.
Thomas - Great recovery from the crash, gives himself outside chance of top 5, maybe even podium
Nibali - Taking 46 seconds on Quintana is a huge result and puts him right back in contention.

Losers:

Pinot - Would have wanted/expected to take time on all other contenders apart from Dumoulin
TJVG - Just horrible
Kruijswijk - Needed to make up some time if podium is realistic ambition. Didn't.


Neutral:

Quintana - Expected loss to Dumoulin. Disappointing loss to Nibali. Good performance v Pinot & Mollema. Think Nibali will be the concern for him
Mollema - Solid but not spectacular either
Yates - Kept himself in contention for top 5, but without creating waves either.

 

[Velolover2]

Top 10

Isn't it safe to say that it's between Quintana and Big Tom? I don't think any of the other riders can take 2:30+ minutes on Dumoulin.