Giro 2017, stage 16: Rovetta – Bormio 222 km

[LaFlorecita]

Chad Haga‏ @ChadHaga
Spectators: we appreciate you, but PLEASE stay off your bikes until the broom wagon goes by. Final descent was so dangerous w you riding.

 

[staubsauger]

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What's Rojas on about here?

https://twitter.com/jjrojillas/status/867060843212668935

Can't understand it from google translate.

"I had never before in my whole life had to overtake fan groupettos while climbing down a mountain in-competition
Excellent organization @giroditalia UNBELIEVABLE"

That happened before at the last mountain stage of the 2004 Giro. Even uphill. It actually did cost Popovych his 4th place on gc to Cioni if I remember correctly.

 

[Kwibus]

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That's not what I implied. It's just that you know even before something happens, that Movistar will NEVER wait or do someone a favor. That's just their way of racing.

Well, they actually did wait today. You might argue that they didn't wait long enough, but there's no question they waited.

This. They soft pedaled and looked at each other for what seemed an eternity. Then Zak went, they brought him back and soft pedaled again. You can only wait so long....this is a Bike Race!

Allthough I wished they waited forever, but I completely agree. They waited long enough.

 

[hrotha]

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What's Rojas on about here?

https://twitter.com/jjrojillas/status/867060843212668935

Can't understand it from google translate.

"I had never before in my whole life had to overtake fan groupettos while climbing down a mountain in-competition
Excellent organization @giroditalia UNBELIEVABLE"

That happened before at the last mountain stage of the 2004 Giro. Even uphill. It actually did cost Popovych his 4th place on gc to Cioni if I remember correctly.

Yeah, and Trampusch or the guy with him threw a punch to a deserving spectator. But it's even worse downhill.

 

[DFA123]

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That's not what I implied. It's just that you know even before something happens, that Movistar will NEVER wait or do someone a favor. That's just their way of racing.

Well, they actually did wait today. You might argue that they didn't wait long enough, but there's no question they waited.

This. They soft pedaled and looked at each other for what seemed an eternity. Then Zak went, they brought him back and soft pedaled again. You can only wait so long....this is a Bike Race!

Allthough I wished they waited forever, but I completely agree. They waited long enough.

I thought it was kind of strange how Dumoulin didn't close the gap in that time, almost like he was too deliberately trying to pace himself back in and not risk blowing up at all. But then he held the gap steadyish for a long time once the attacks started.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

The problem is always the case of, how long do you wait? The fact Dumoulin made it so far through the stage meant we didn't have a situation like Basso in 2005, but it does make me think of 2010 and the sterrato stage, after Nibali crashed in the maglia rosa. Rohregger and Gerdemann were at the front with Vino and Evans, and the latter two were happily sitting up and had little problem with allowing Nibali to come back, but the Milram riders were stagehunting and didn't feel the same obligation to wait, and once they attacked it was open season again. Once you've got a small group, all it takes is one rider to decide enough is enough, and then the riders can't be obliged to wait anymore. Because sure, it would be nice if Tom had the chance to get back... but you also can't let somebody dangerous like Zakarin gain time for free.

 

[Red Rick]

I agree that Zakarin is dangerous. To ride with on a descent

 

[Jolene]

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Flora is just taking the words of a nutcase stalker as truth. Landa is a nice guy, the woman in question is the one that is unlikable

Nutcase stalker. Unlikeable. Right!

You do know she had a boyfriend during all this, right? And at one point claimed that Landa was her husband, which turned out to be false. Yes, nutcase, yes unlikable. And narcissistic to boot.

 

[GraftPunk]

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I agree that Zakarin is dangerous. To ride with on a descent

This made me LOL. For some reason I thought it was Nibbles who kicked off the party but yeah, definitely Zakarin.

 

[Angliru]

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Lol at all these newly registered members blaming Movistar for this.

It's like as if this the first time they've ever watched a GT.

I'm not blaming Movistar, I'm blaming all teams who pushed on, inluding Movistar
Also, it's the opposite. Having watched GT's for a long time, it's obvious that in the past they would have waited

This is a race, not a charity ride! How does one wait after starting the final climb of a stage? I feel for Dumoulin but this is part of racing. You have illnesses, then you have to suffer through them. You can't expect to be coddled when these incidences arise, especially in this particular circumstance. The race was definitely on.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Flora is just taking the words of a nutcase stalker as truth. Landa is a nice guy, the woman in question is the one that is unlikable

Nutcase stalker. Unlikeable. Right!

You do know she had a boyfriend during all this, right? And at one point claimed that Landa was her husband, which turned out to be false. Yes, nutcase, yes unlikable. And narcissistic to boot.

So? Do her faults excuse Landa in any way?
I know you like Landa the same way I like Contador, but seriously, if I found out he did something like that I would NEVER cheer for him again. It's a no-no.

 

[sir fly]

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Flora is just taking the words of a nutcase stalker as truth. Landa is a nice guy, the woman in question is the one that is unlikable

Nutcase stalker. Unlikeable. Right!

You do know she had a boyfriend during all this, right? And at one point claimed that Landa was her husband, which turned out to be false. Yes, nutcase, yes unlikable. And narcissistic to boot.

So? Do her faults excuse Landa in any way?
I know you like Landa the same way I like Contador, but seriously, if I found out he did something like that I would NEVER cheer for him again. It's a no-no.

What did Landa do?

 

[May0maniac]

Nibali: "Purito told me to attack on the final km because it's the hardest part of the climb" Why am I not surprised by that?
Pozzovivo is also really strong, probably the strongest Pozzovivo that we've seen since 2012.

 

[lenric]

Nibali's dark magic strikes again. Landa, Thomas and Kelderman (which screwed Major Poopoulin) out. TD gone into full Kimi Raikkonen Brazil's mode (I was having a ***)... who's next?

 

[Netserk]

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Flora is just taking the words of a nutcase stalker as truth. Landa is a nice guy, the woman in question is the one that is unlikable

Nutcase stalker. Unlikeable. Right!

You do know she had a boyfriend during all this, right? And at one point claimed that Landa was her husband, which turned out to be false. Yes, nutcase, yes unlikable. And narcissistic to boot.

Share! Share! Share!

 

[hrotha]

Yeah, do share, please. I'm OK with a copy-pasted PM.

 

[lenric]

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Flora is just taking the words of a nutcase stalker as truth. Landa is a nice guy, the woman in question is the one that is unlikable

Nutcase stalker. Unlikeable. Right!

You do know she had a boyfriend during all this, right? And at one point claimed that Landa was her husband, which turned out to be false. Yes, nutcase, yes unlikable. And narcissistic to boot.

Share! Share! Share!

Gotta second this, by the way. Don't leave us hanging!!!!

 

[Forever The Best]

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Flora is just taking the words of a nutcase stalker as truth. Landa is a nice guy, the woman in question is the one that is unlikable

Nutcase stalker. Unlikeable. Right!

You do know she had a boyfriend during all this, right? And at one point claimed that Landa was her husband, which turned out to be false. Yes, nutcase, yes unlikable. And narcissistic to boot.

So? Do her faults excuse Landa in any way?
I know you like Landa the same way I like Contador, but seriously, if I found out he did something like that I would NEVER cheer for him again. It's a no-no.

Share your knowledge about the topic Jolene, we need the other side of the story too.

 

[Jungle Cycle]

if it's a girl problem there must be a brazilian girl somewhere in the story..

 

[LaFlorecita]

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if it's a girl problem there must be a brazilian girl somewhere in the story..

yes

 

[Valv.Piti]

Someone still angry that Landa could have beaten Contador anytime he wanted to if he was let off his leash I suppose

 

[staubsauger]

It's really important that y'all give us a short gossip update. Bring on RTL Boulevard!

 

[LaFlorecita]

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It's really important that y'all give us a short gossip update. Bring on RTL Boulevard!

I don't think it's appropriate to discuss the details in public. I can PM, if you want.

 

[masking_agent]

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Doesn't anyone but me remember LeMond having a bad stomach and riding over the mountains with it literally running down his legs and stinking to high heaven? He won that TdF!!!

yes back in '86.. he rode through it..

 

[staubsauger]

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It's really important that y'all give us a short gossip update. Bring on RTL Boulevard!

I don't think it's appropriate to discuss the details in public. I can PM, if you want.

Thanks in advance!-