Giro 2017, stage 16: Rovetta – Bormio 222 km

[Gigs_98]

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action is guaranteed. suspense however, is not

Well I agree that if Quintana just solos away on the Stelvio and everyone else loses 3-4 minutes, that would kinda kill the remaining giro, but the stage itself would still be very memorable. I'd rather see that than Quintana and Dumoulin holding hands while Nibali shows them the safest way down the stelvio.

 

[SafeBet]

I've got such high expectations that I can already feel the blues in case nothing happens until Umbrail.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I want 2 things
-an exciting stage
-dumoulin surviving

but something tells me both cannot be combined. It will only be exciting if Dumoulin is in real danger. It will be boring if he is not

 

[ice&fire]

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action is guaranteed. suspense however, is not

Regardless of the end result why can't we dream of a scenario like the 2013 Vuelta when Nibali was losing time to Horner little by little in the last 4 mountain stages?

 

[klintE]

I'm sure tomorrow racing will be exciting. One thing could muck up competition is another meaningful crash. I would even pray, if I were a believer

 

[Poursuivant]

Re: Re:

action is guaranteed. suspense however, is not

Regardless of the end result why can't we dream of a scenario like the 2013 Vuelta when Nibali was losing time to Horner little by little in the last 4 mountain stages?

That was such an epic fight.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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I want 2 things
-an exciting stage
-dumoulin surviving

but something tells me both cannot be combined. It will only be exciting if Dumoulin is in real danger. It will be boring if he is not

Well maybe its not exciting to you if he drops, but those two things aren't mutually exclusive.. at all! Quintana and Nibali going mad, Dumoulin dropping 5 km from the top of Stelvio, riders spread across the road, people taking mad risks on the descent to catch up/extend their leads and catch up with their gregarious in the valley.

 

[Rollthedice]

Re: Re:

action is guaranteed. suspense however, is not

Regardless of the end result why can't we dream of a scenario like the 2013 Vuelta when Nibali was losing time to Horner little by little in the last 4 mountain stages?

That was such an epic fight.

Angliru, what was it four, five attacks by Nibali on insane gradients? Horner doing all the climb out of the saddle and kept coming back then sailing away at the end. Damn, hope if tomorrow Nibali will go down to do it with all guns blazing.

 

[ferryman]

Just checked and can confirm that British Eurosport is scheduled to start at 11.15am. On air until 4.45pm. GMT.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

just looked back some giro's of the last 10 years.

It's actually not even looking that bad for quintana and co. Hell even Aru got 2'20 on Contador in the final mountain stage, and that was just a 2 mountain stage with a relative flat run-in. If you crack on the penultimate climb, things go fast.
That was Contador, a much better climber, cracking.. vs Aru, a much lesser climber than Quintana. So if anything goes wrong, anyone can still win.

 

[trevim]

Quintana in pink tomorrow night is my guess

 

[Ataraxus]

Mikel Landa to win and to make history as the only rider who has won the Mortirolo stage twice.

 

[Robert5091]

Tom D to yo-yo à la Froome and come in not long after Quintana. Landa to win to secure new contract with Sky.

 

[killswitch]

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Mmm guys, even if you ban Gigs he could always see the race on TV or follow it online.

A more effective move would be to talk to his TV and internet provider to cut his access.

The way Dumoulin has prepared, I'm sure he is aware of the Gigs angle and has secured viewing access, especially with the Dutch mafia on these boards.

CN should add a like option.

 

[SafeBet]

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just looked back some giro's of the last 10 years.

It's actually not even looking that bad for quintana and co. Hell even Aru got 2'20 on Contador in the final mountain stage, and that was just a 2 mountain stage with a relative flat run-in. If you crack on the penultimate climb, things go fast.
That was Contador, a much better climber, cracking.. vs Aru, a much lesser climber than Quintana. So if anything goes wrong, anyone can still win.

Exactly.
If they race it hard, gaps could be huge. And even in case nobody cracks tomorrow, there are still 4 days of racing ahead.

 

[BullsFan22]

Re: Re:

I want 2 things
-an exciting stage
-dumoulin surviving

but something tells me both cannot be combined. It will only be exciting if Dumoulin is in real danger. It will be boring if he is not

Well maybe its not exciting to you if he drops, but those two things aren't mutually exclusive.. at all! Quintana and Nibali going mad, Dumoulin dropping 5 km from the top of Stelvio, riders spread across the road, people taking mad risks on the descent to catch up/extend their leads and catch up with their gregarious in the valley.

Maybe it will turn out like this day did:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/giro-ditalia-2005/stage-19/results/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9vRjJXk6Jk

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Yeah, Savoldelli won his Giro's in the TT and in the downhill.

Dumoulin should look to emulate him. A bit better in the TT, a bit less in the downhill. But he should not panic and try to hang with Quintana. Unless what everybody says that he should follow Q on the penultimate climb, it's better for him to climb at own pace. Even if risking a 'coup'. Blowing up could cost much more

 

[Tonton]

A lot of doom and gloom. Dumoulin hasn't given me a reason to expect any kind of a meltdown. If the other ones miscalculate their scheme, adios. Quintana may find out that without Don Alejandro in the lineup, it's Movistar Light: cheap beer, no Champagne my friends...

I could be totally wrong: but I have a hard time imagining Quintana put everything on the line and attempting a long-range attack. The key may be NIbali: because he's fearless. Once he ignites this thing, instincts will prevail. If he doesn't, maybe no one will do anything until the last climb.

I hope this stage lives up to the hype.

 

[staubsauger]

The hawk primarily won his 2005 Giro because Bruyneel paid Ardila and because the final climb was a bit too short for Rujano. His descending was impressive, but not the key to his victory eventually!

 

[carton]

Quintana, Nibali, Pinot, K-man. So many contenders who really shouldn't care that all that much about a Giro podium. Inasmuch as they should be willing to risk it for a win. But coming off a rest day, it's quite likely that Major Tom will acquit himself nicely. And the history of these monster stages includes a lot of duds.

All-in-all probably not much ends up happening. But if someone doesn't really go for it tomorrow I'll be disappointed.

 

[Son of Amsterhammer]

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Quintana, Nibali, Pinot, K-man. So many contenders who really shouldn't care that all that much about a Giro podium. Inasmuch as they should be willing to risk it for a win. But coming off a rest day, it's quite likely that Major Tom will acquit himself nicely. And the history of these monster stages includes a lot of duds.

All-in-all probably not much ends up happening. But if someone doesn't really go for it tomorrow I'll be disappointed.

I think we all will. If NQ wants to win this race, he has to do something tomorrow. Even if he doesn't gain much time he's got to at least push TD. However, gaining no time would be his 2nd strike IMO (first being Blockhaus/TT combo)

 

[vass45]

Nibali and few others to attack, Dummo to lose time, and Quintana in pink tomorrow I think is a very likely outcome

 

[jaylew]

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The hawk primarily won his 2005 Giro because Bruyneel paid Ardila and because the final climb was a bit too short for Rujano. His descending was impressive, but not the key to his victory eventually!

Wrong bird of prey?

Quintana, Nibali, Pinot, K-man. So many contenders who really shouldn't care that all that much about a Giro podium. Inasmuch as they should be willing to risk it for a win.

I disagree about Pinot and Kruijswijk. I think they'd both sign off on a podium. Pinot's already talked about that as a goal.

 

[woodburn]

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The hawk primarily won his 2005 Giro because Bruyneel paid Ardila and because the final climb was a bit too short for Rujano. His descending was impressive, but not the key to his victory eventually!

Wrong bird of prey?

Quintana, Nibali, Pinot, K-man. So many contenders who really shouldn't care that all that much about a Giro podium. Inasmuch as they should be willing to risk it for a win.

I disagree about Pinot and Kruijswijk. I think they'd both sign off on a podium. Pinot's already talked about that as a goal.

Salvodelli was Il Falco.

 

[Scarponi]

Ten dam is in for a long day