Giro 2017, stage 18: Moena - Ortisei 137 km

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carton said:
Iker_Baqueiro said:
Colombians about to justify "the best climber in the world" Quintana's bad performance ... 1, 2, 3, go !!!
Clearly, it's Landa. I mean, winning the KOM at the Giro, it that doesn't prove it, what does?

That´s the stupidest reason I heart that winner of KOM is best climber :)
 
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Escarabajo said:
Why insult Quintana if he doesn't have it.

He doesn't have to work for Dumo either.

Dumo is now the big favorite and he has to take control of the race not Quintana.

Well but you know that everyone in here will continue to say that Dumoulin is a gentlemen
 
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Dukerojo said:
DFA123 said:
DNP-Old said:
Dekker_Tifosi said:
Pinot is back in the race thanks to Quintana and Nibali.
I very much doubt Nibali nor Quintana cares about finishing 2nd, 3rd of 51st.
I think Quintana does, and Movistar do in generally. He dug really deep last year in the Tour to claim 3rd. Nibali probably not so much.

Because he was sick most of the tour
Maybe so. But he still battled hard and settled for third, rather than risk a low percentage 1st or 20th long range attack on the final days.
 

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Climbing said:
Why on earth should Nibali and Quintana pull even 10 meters for TomD?
Do you understand cycling people?
They both race for 1st place.
Then they should quit race Tuesday evening when first place was definitely taken.
 
All the crowd that wanted Quintana to attack everywhere now know why he didn't. It's not all about mentality or tactics. You need ability to do so. And as for today he simply can't shake Dumoulin off. He has less W/kg in current form. No acceleration will change that.

If Dumoulin has enough endurance and recovery he has this Giro in the bag.
 
Quintana may not be the best climber in the world (Froome) but he is certainly better than any other riders here. One poor showing does not erase years of results, and instead of just focusing on the Giro like Dumoulin he is trying to win the Tour as well.

I think at this point he should skip the Tour and race the Vuelta instead. Better to win one race than lose two.
 
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DFA123 said:
Dukerojo said:
DFA123 said:
DNP-Old said:
Dekker_Tifosi said:
Pinot is back in the race thanks to Quintana and Nibali.
I very much doubt Nibali nor Quintana cares about finishing 2nd, 3rd of 51st.
I think Quintana does, and Movistar do in generally. He dug really deep last year in the Tour to claim 3rd. Nibali probably not so much.

Because he was sick most of the tour
Maybe so. But he still battled hard and settled for third, rather than risk a low percentage 1st or 20th long range attack on the final days.

There's still a big difference for many riders between a podium in the Tour or one in the Giro/Vuelta. I wouldn't be surprised if Quintana cares about the former but not remotely about the latter.
 
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Gloin22 said:
HelloDolly said:
ha ha (this forum) Landa is the new Pantni , Landa can beat everyone , ha ha

He cant beat the 'joke' that is TJ van Garderen...hope that put the hype to bed at last

He has been going for KOM for past few days. Go on your bike for few days in a row when your rival stays in peleton
and see what happens :lol:

BTW TJ in break yesterday

3 days in the break and 3 fails for this super star :lol: :lol: :lol:

If he was the rider you are claiming then maybe he could have dropped TJ on one of the climbs today ???

Anyway you look at it the hype on here is just ridiculous
 
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DFA123 said:
Arredondo said:
DFA123 said:
Dekker_Tifosi said:
I love how Dumoulin is trolling DFA. How wrong was that guy about Dumoulin.
:confused: I'm sure Dumoulin has bigger things on his mind. He'll still crack in the next two days.

Why?
Just my opinion. It's still on 3/5ths of the way through this brutal final week. And the riders look on their last legs already.

But on Oropa he didn't have a great day. Same for Bormio stage. And today he looked even worse. He really had a 'bad' day.

It just doesn't bode well for him. It looks his head (and legs) is too much in France already.
 
wheresmybrakes said:
Embarrassing a team like Movistar can't crack one man. Very poor from NQ, times running out.

To you and everyone insulting Quintana (and Nibali). This. is. sport.

End of story, or shut the *** up to the clinic and prepare godmode blood for everyone.
 
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hfer07 said:
Today was "the day" to break Tom. Neither Nibs, nor Quintana can drop him. And by looking at tomorrow's profile, the last climb actually suits Tom like a glove.

Bottom line: unless he has another stomach upset issue, I'm saying Tom is set to win Il Giro.
The accumulated MTF finishes may take their toll on TD, stage 20 will be "the day" for Quintana and Nibali to attack relentlessly.
 
Savant12 said:
The Barb said:
TJ was (surprisingly) the stronger rider. Landa didn't do too much wrong there (unlike two days ago).

Apart from leaving the door wide open on the last corner, you mean?

If you're being hyper critical you might say that, but TJ is 12kg heavier and it was a downhill finish. That's what made the difference between two pretty equally non explosive riders.
 
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Landa can be such a great climber, but holy moses is he unintelligent in his tactics. Maybe he'll learn through repetition?
 
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Climbing said:
Actually if Nibali/Quintana want to win this is even a better situation.
Good luck controlling this:

1 Tom Dumoulin (Ned) Team Sunweb 80:00:48
2 Nairo Quintana (Col) Movistar Team 0:00:31
3 Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Bahrain-Merida 0:01:12
4 Thibaut Pinot (Fra) FDJ 0:01:36
5 Ilnur Zakarin (Rus) Katusha-Alpecin 0:01:58
6 Domenico Pozzovivo (Ita) AG2R La Mondiale 0:02:07

Pozzovivo is going to loose 10 years in the ITT.
 
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luckyboy said:
Quintana may not be the best climber in the world (Froome) but he is certainly better than any other riders here. One poor showing does not erase years of results, and instead of just focusing on the Giro like Dumoulin he is trying to win the Tour as well.

I think at this point he should skip the Tour and race the Vuelta instead. Better to win one race than lose two.
If he's following last year's model though, then he definitely should ride the Tour. He's said the plan is to peak for the Tour atfer all, but obviously difficult to take words like that at face value.
 
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luckyboy said:
Quintana may not be the best climber in the world (Froome) but he is certainly better than any other riders here. One poor showing does not erase years of results, and instead of just focusing on the Giro like Dumoulin he is trying to win the Tour as well.

I think at this point he should skip the Tour and race the Vuelta instead. Better to win one race than lose two.

I think the problem with Quintana, and the problem I have with Quintana, is that he believed he could win the Giro without being 100%. Which will obviously cost him the Giro, and also shows an arrogance I'm not that fond of.