Giro d'Italia 2023, stage 11: Camaiore - Tortona 219 km

[Filippo_3467]

could be hard to bring Rex back. They should start putting more people to work.

 

[gunara]

Moreno Moser and Colbrelli? Everything that makes you sad.

 

[skippo12]

What´s up with Jumbo sitting at the back of the peleton?

 

[Riek s]

What´s up with Jumbo sitting at the back of the peleton?

The safest place to ride in this Giro is either 50m before or 50m behind the peleton

 

[staubsauger]

TGH dropped out of the race due to poor bike handling skills. Which is an important part of cycling. Just because someone falls a few metres in front of you doesn't automatically mean you have to fall too. Better that robots don't always win...

Nah. His bike handling skills were on great display during Sundays TT!

Thomas is the awful bike handler.

But there were riders falling left and right.

 

[BR2]

Wait, what the - I didn't watch and now Tao's out as well?

 

[BR2]

Lennard is still in the race, right...?

 

[glassmoon]

crashes on the wet happened before the disc brakes and will happen in the future too... simple as that. disc vs rim brakes debate is kinda pointless regarding this. riders see fall in front of them, go into panic mode, full brakes and when it's wet they are going down discs or no discs. high level rim brakes sent riders down in similar conditions all the time.
it's more about bike handling skills in critical situations than brakes.

 

[theyoungest]

Nah

Tao had the shape this year. Hindley won last year. Almeida is a legit contender as he was last year. Kelderman is the one weird guy you often had on the Giro d'Italia podium (Osa, Bruseghin, Mazzoleni).

The 2020 Giro doesn't deserve this comparison anymore.

Kelderman got 5th in the Tour the year after. Hardly a 'weird guy' to have on a Giro podium. Personally I thought Hart was way more odd as a podium finisher, let alone winning it. Only this year he's shown some of that quality again (or actually, a lot of quality).

 

[CyclistAbi]

would probably cause a similar reaction

For a moment i was thinking i am watching a replay of Nibali and Rogla trophy cabinet argument.

 

[dgodave]

Oh great. Lumpy puddly corner right into the finish.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Lennard is still in the race, right...?

Yes, the way it is going he'll podium on default by hopefully not crashing or being sick again.

 

[Bolder]

crashes on the wet happened before the disc brakes and will happen in the future too... simple as that. disc vs rim brakes debate is kinda pointless regarding this. riders see fall infront of them, go into panic full brakes and when it's wet they are going down discs or no discs. best rim brakes used in the past did riders in panic down when it was wet all the time.
it's more about handling in critical situations than brakes.

You could, I suppose, make the argument that disc brakes lead to higher speeds in the wet. And it's easier to lock up your wheels with powerful hydraulic discs = once you lock up a wheel, it's game over. This was a "typical" crash, in that Covi lost his front wheel, GT was thrown off line and everyone behind had to alter their line -- greasy roads, decreasing radius turn, and bam. I wouldn't say anyone is particularly guilty of poor bike handling -- where were the riders behind the Covi/GT pile going to go?

This really sucks for Tao -- I think he came here with a giant chip on his shoulder after Jai's win last year to show that he, too, wasn't just a flash in the pan. He looked in perfect shape and had a powerful team. This chance might not come along again for him.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

You could, I suppose, make the argument that disc brakes lead to higher speeds in the wet. And it's easier to lock up your wheels with powerful hydraulic discs = once you lock up a wheel, it's game over. This was a "typical" crash, in that Covi lost his front wheel, GT was thrown off line and everyone behind had to alter their line -- greasy roads, decreasing radius turn, and bam. I wouldn't say anyone is particularly guilty of poor bike handling -- where were the riders behind the Covi/GT pile going to go?

This really sucks for Tao -- I think he came here with a giant chip on his shoulder after Jai's win last year to show that he, too, wasn't just a flash in the pan. He looked in perfect shape and had a powerful team. This chance might not come along again for him.

If you discount his Giro win, Tao is on course to be miserable Igor Anton.

 

[BR2]

Too bad for my cq team that Laurenz is not going to make it. Now Ackermann is under a lot of pressure...

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Wait, what the - I didn't watch and now Tao's out as well?

Covi crashed in a corner, Thomas crashed on top of Covi. Hart crashed behind them and some others crashed against Hart. Roglic also went down.

 

[skippo12]

Entire stage is one big bike change drill for Jumbo.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

If Sivakov has to abandon or isn't a great help anymore, Ineos go from a tactical super position to a precarious team size to win/control a GT. This could be good for racing at least, but it really really sucks for the riders involved in the crashes. Especially Geogen-Hart who did nothing for years, he must be really really gutted.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Rumors say it could've been Roglic?

Looks like Hvastja had a point.

 

[RedheadDane]

King Laurenz putting up a pretty good fight.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

King Laurenz putting up a pretty good fight.

Dutch Eurosport guys were talking about his brother, who also wants to become a pro cyclist. His name starts with a T.
T. Rex

 

[Aimar16]

Nah. His bike handling skills were on great display during Sundays TT!

Thomas is the awful bike handler.

But there were riders falling left and right.

I guess your expectations are low. If he or Rog had good bike handling skills, they wouldn't have braked so hard and tried to take that corner at all costs. They saw the danger and could have easily prepared, brake carefully and let the bike go straight as far as they could out onto the roadside on the muddy, soft ground...

 

[BR2]

Laurenz also means the winner, right?

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Laurenz also means the winner, right?

We'll know in 6km, whether that's what his name means, but i doubt it!

 

[CyclistAbi]

I guess your expectations are low. If he or Rog had good bike handling skills, they wouldn't have braked so hard and tried to take that corner at all costs. They saw the danger and could have easily prepared, brake carefully and let the bike go straight as far as they could out onto the roadside on the muddy, soft ground...

Observing here from the couch i tend to agree. Such bad riding skills. I spilled a bit of tee to test it. And the couch didn't slip!