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Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2023 Stage 8: Terni – Fossombrone 207 km

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Very impressive by Rogla.

Remco clearly struggling and it will be interesting to see if he is far from his best also tomorrow. I’ve never been competing and I have never crashed properly, so I don’t know how a crash affects you - but today will be another one of those days that makes some cycling experts say “day 2 or day 3 after a crash is the worst”. If he’s going to be at this level next week he will be irrelevant in the last week.

Leknessund surprisingly strong, but totally wrong pacing strategy trying to go with Roglic. Would’ve probably been one group ahead if he had paced smarter.
 
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The gc situation is honestly pretty exciting right now. I hope Remco smashes the TT tomorrow so Roglic and Ineos have to attack him from far out in the Alps. If that's the case then neither Remco nor Roglic seem to have a very strong team right now, while both TGH and Thomas might be genuine threats to them. If Ineos isolates them on the Coeur and one of the two attacks, don't know how they would respond.

That being said, I'm a little worried about whether Remco can actually smash tomorrows TT. Dropping today was a really bad sign for a rider who was dominant on the exact same terrain 3 weeks ago.
 
The Ineos bots were just programmed to get onto the descent in top 5 positions, can't blame them for not knowing what to do afterwards.

Thomas and TGH didn´t work because Sivakov was in the second group. Sivakov didn´t work because DePlus was in the third group. DePlus didn´t work because Arensman was in the fourth group...or something like that.
 
The gc situation is honestly pretty exciting right now. I hope Remco smashes the TT tomorrow so Roglic and Ineos have to attack him from far out in the Alps. If that's the case then neither Remco nor Roglic seem to have a very strong team right now, while both TGH and Thomas might be genuine threats to them. If Ineos isolates them on the Coeur and one of the two attacks, don't know how they would respond.

That being said, I'm a little worried about whether Remco can actually smash tomorrows TT. Dropping today was a really bad sign for a rider who was dominant on the exact same terrain 3 weeks ago.

I think he will smash the TT but we shall see.
 
Seems like Vlasov honestly just don't has it this year. Kämna a bit over ambitious maybe but still looks good for a top 10. A lot of guys who will fight for 7-12 were quite far back. Didn't saw Pozzo, Uran, Pinot and Rubio anywhre. From a team performance pov Ineos and Bahrain looking strong. Especially Ineos with all there goof tters.

In the end it still was a mistake not to make that race harder as Remco seemed to be really in trouble and could have been put more in the red before the TT. If tomorrow goes as exptected they have to crack him once really hard with 20 or 30 sec here and there it won't be enough. Plus Ruglic doens't has the team here. Ineos, UAE and bahrain have to take it up. Bora I think we can strike from that list after today.
Yeah, Vlasov really disappointing. This actually should've been his bread and butter, normally he's quite good on these 10 minutes efforts while Kämna prefers longer climbs on overall harder stages. I wonder if they just wanted to use Kämna as bait and Vlasov was the plan and just didn't have it or if he (Kämna) was simply overambitious as you said (which I can't blame him, it's his first GT going for GC, rather try some things instead of just grinding along Meintjes style).
Either way, their team isn't really strong enough to be much of a thread anyway, Jumbo tried today but don't look promising either (Roglic obviously great), I think Bahrain could play a dark horse role - or Ineos if they find their balls.
 
The gc situation is honestly pretty exciting right now. I hope Remco smashes the TT tomorrow so Roglic and Ineos have to attack him from far out in the Alps. If that's the case then neither Remco nor Roglic seem to have a very strong team right now, while both TGH and Thomas might be genuine threats to them. If Ineos isolates them on the Coeur and one of the two attacks, don't know how they would respond.
I miss one thing in the last 10 days; stages where a descent might matter in the GC. I really can't see any of these. Perhaps on the Bergamo stage, but that is not too likely.
 
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The gc situation is honestly pretty exciting right now. I hope Remco smashes the TT tomorrow so Roglic and Ineos have to attack him from far out in the Alps. If that's the case then neither Remco nor Roglic seem to have a very strong team right now, while both TGH and Thomas might be genuine threats to them. If Ineos isolates them on the Coeur and one of the two attacks, don't know how they would respond.

That being said, I'm a little worried about whether Remco can actually smash tomorrows TT. Dropping today was a really bad sign for a rider who was dominant on the exact same terrain 3 weeks ago.
Actually I think Jumbo look quite good, considering half of their riders didn't know they were going to ride the Giro until last week. And Quickstep aren't that bad either. When push comes to shove it will be man against man anyway, with the exception of Ineos but as we've seen today, if it's not 'control the race all day and then drop everyone' they don't really know what to do.
 
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We dont know if Vlasov is unwell or not yet at his best.....last year he was flying before the Giro and then he ran out of steam...maybe he is trying another tact

Arensman , like many before him should have stayed at DSM ...maybe they would have brought him along better ..instead he is over cooked from INEOS camps
Interestingly Arensman brought his trainer along from DSM, and the guy now also trains Geoghegan Hart... his method has worked a charm for Hart, but Arensman has taken significant steps backward. Apparently for Hart the difference is mainly: train less. Maybe for Arensman that didn't quite work.
 
Very nice stage and a expected move by Roglic in those final meters of the final climb, after all this is his cup of tea. Evenepoel with not much of a loss here, Tao and Geraint looking good and Almeida as always in a bad position when Roglic made his move. All in all we’ll have an open Giro until the end.