GP Quebec (8-9-2017) and GP Montreal (10-9-2017) WT

[PremierAndrew]

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Nice last couple of laps. A shame Greg was preferring WT-points over the victory though.

No he wasn't :lol:

If he wanted WT points, he would've worked with Sagan and guaranteed himself a 2nd place, instead of trying to beat Sagan and ultimately only finishing 7th

 

[Jagartrott]

Sagan went on the uphill, then GVA pulled for a bit, but they never got away from the group behind, so I don't really think it was about not wanting to work together, but rather not wanting to pull the whole bunch - while there were still teammates of other contenders there. They just never had a real gap.

 

[tomorrow]

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Sagan was actually helped out by a lot of teams (Sky, QS, Sunweb). He just needed one Bora to help close the gap, and they'd have done it. No point in looking at others this time.

You're right he got the help eventually, but it was too late. After the polytechnique, that gap rised at least 10s until Mathews got back. Gva, Sagan and dumoulin would have caught them.

But yeah, postlberger imploded a little after all the work he'd done

 

[alexix7]

Matthews and GVA are wheelsuckers and today they prove it.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Herrada threw this away on the last bend.

Yep, he really messed it up, he had a lot in the tank.

 

[SKSemtex]

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Sagan went on the uphill, then GVA pulled for a bit, but they never got away from the group behind, so I don't really think it was about not wanting to work together, but rather not wanting to pull the whole bunch - while there were still teammates of other contenders there. They just never had a real gap.

No , he did not pulled. He tried to escape from Sagan after Sagan hard pull. When he saw Sagan was bridging, he stopped.

 

[portugal11]

I don't understand why there are people mad with gva, he is always glued to sagan's wheel in every single race. He is very strong but he lacks panache, charisma

 

[Jagartrott]

Like Sagan tried to escape from GVA.
If you're strong enough, you follow and it's a pull.
The real problem for both was that they were not strong enough to gap the bunch and that they had no helpers left.

 

[Hellyea]

GVA incoming interview: "I raced smart today, Ulissi was just too strong today. Overall, I am really satisfied with my form before Bergen."

 

[May0maniac]

Wellens really strong in a race with nice weather, this form seems to be great. If we get a really rainy day in Bergen we could see an epic long range attack.

 

[Blanco]

Last two laps were really nice. Well actually last 50km

Great race unlike Quebec! Nice tactics and win by UAE with Ulissi. I thought Slagter would have it when he was in his wheel but he kinda died.

I don't understand why Mollema did such an effort to catch Gallopin.. tactical suicide. :lol:

Also saw a real strong Henao and Wellens, but they were caught in the peloton..

Absolutely pathetic racing from GVA and Matthews. Not a single pull from them, through we're used to that from Matthews, but not GVA.

Matthews couldn't even follow Dumoulin when he tried to bring him back to Sagan's wheel. Absolutely pathetic that Dumoulin had to sacrifise himself again for Matthews. I'm really pissed off about that.

Because he's faster. Dumoulin wont beat Sagan and GVA in a sprint, and they wont let him go away.

 

[Blanco]

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Herrada threw this away on the last bend.

Yep, he really messed it up, he had a lot in the tank.

I doubt he would've won anyway, Ulissi is pretty fast in these finales.

 

[Frankschleck]

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Herrada threw this away on the last bend.

Yep, he really messed it up, he had a lot in the tank.

I doubt he would've won anyway, Ulissi is pretty fast in these finales.

So is herrada, gallopin, slagter tho, but ullisi was impressive.

 

[Bardamu]

Last two laps were really nice. Well actually last 50km

Great race unlike Quebec! Nice tactics and win by UAE with Ulissi. I thought Slagter would have it when he was in his wheel but he kinda died.

I don't understand why Mollema did such an effort to catch Gallopin.. tactical suicide. :lol:

Also saw a real strong Henao and Wellens, but they were caught in the peloton..

Absolutely pathetic racing from GVA and Matthews. Not a single pull from them, through we're used to that from Matthews, but not GVA.

Matthews couldn't even follow Dumoulin when he tried to bring him back to Sagan's wheel. Absolutely pathetic that Dumoulin had to sacrifise himself again for Matthews. I'm really pissed off about that.

Because he's faster. Dumoulin wont beat Sagan and GVA in a sprint, and they wont let him go away.

Couldn't have won otherwise, maybe if he had sneaked with Mollema to the first group

 

[hrotha]

Matthews should be a better pick for this kind of race, on paper. But then his hidden stats come into play and it's a nope.

 

[Samamba]

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Wellens really strong in a race with nice weather, this form seems to be great. If we get a really rainy day in Bergen we could see an epic long range attack.

The 20ish degree weather has never been a problem for him, it's when the temperature hits 27, 28 when he gets in trouble. And even then it isn't always a problem if it's just for one day.

But yeah, he was pretty impressive today. Hope it rains in Bergen and the Belgian leaders give him a free role.

 

[Samamba]

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Gallopin should have probably waited instead of going on the attack in the final K. He'd have had a good chance to win

He wouldn't have beaten Ulissi, good choice to go all in.
Don't get why Mollema did that suicide move to get him back though.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Last two laps were really nice. Well actually last 50km

Great race unlike Quebec! Nice tactics and win by UAE with Ulissi. I thought Slagter would have it when he was in his wheel but he kinda died.

I don't understand why Mollema did such an effort to catch Gallopin.. tactical suicide. :lol:

Also saw a real strong Henao and Wellens, but they were caught in the peloton..

Absolutely pathetic racing from GVA and Matthews. Not a single pull from them, through we're used to that from Matthews, but not GVA.

Matthews couldn't even follow Dumoulin when he tried to bring him back to Sagan's wheel. Absolutely pathetic that Dumoulin had to sacrifise himself again for Matthews. I'm really pissed off about that.

Because he's faster. Dumoulin wont beat Sagan and GVA in a sprint, and they wont let him go away.

You don't get the point. The could have let him attack earlier. Try to get in a group like Mollema. But no..

 

[May0maniac]

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Wellens really strong in a race with nice weather, this form seems to be great. If we get a really rainy day in Bergen we could see an epic long range attack.

The 20ish degree weather has never been a problem for him, it's when the temperature hits 27, 28 when he gets in trouble. And even then it isn't always a problem if it's just for one day.

But yeah, he was pretty impressive today. Hope it rains in Bergen and the Belgian leaders give him a free role.

Yeah, I remember how he finished 9th in the hard Monte Grappa MTT with sunny weather.

 

[Blanco]

Last two laps were really nice. Well actually last 50km

Great race unlike Quebec! Nice tactics and win by UAE with Ulissi. I thought Slagter would have it when he was in his wheel but he kinda died.

I don't understand why Mollema did such an effort to catch Gallopin.. tactical suicide. :lol:

Also saw a real strong Henao and Wellens, but they were caught in the peloton..

Absolutely pathetic racing from GVA and Matthews. Not a single pull from them, through we're used to that from Matthews, but not GVA.

Matthews couldn't even follow Dumoulin when he tried to bring him back to Sagan's wheel. Absolutely pathetic that Dumoulin had to sacrifise himself again for Matthews. I'm really pissed off about that.

Because he's faster. Dumoulin wont beat Sagan and GVA in a sprint, and they wont let him go away.

You don't get the point. The could have let him attack earlier. Try to get in a group like Mollema. But no..

He tried earlier, when Uran went on that first climb, but Sagan reacted when he saw Dumoulin is moving. That's why I said they wont let him go...

 

[TMP402]

So to summarise the Laurentian Classics, Sagan became the first repeat winner of either race.

 

[DNP-Old]

Sagan has had enough of Van Avermaet, and rightfully so.

 

[tomorrow]

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Sagan has had enough of Van Avermaet, and rightfully so.

lol, that picture sumarizes it pretty well.

 

[Jagartrott]

Sagan is acting like a baby here.
If he wants to win more, he needs to look at his own team, not at other riders and other teams.

 

[Bye Bye Bicycle]

This.

GvA rides smart, Sagan looks like a complete tool. And not just because of his stupid beard.