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Lol Avermaet really likes these races.
Sagan looked good for the Worlds despite the final result.
 
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Is Matthews going to blame this one on positioning as well or was the final just too hard for him?
 
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Sagan, GVA, Wellens, MVP, Trentin and Cortina look very ready for the WC, judging by the last races. Alaphilippe maybe missing 2 or 3 % compared to his Tour shape right now. Can he manage that third peak?
 
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Omg what was that. Sagan was absolutely bullied there. He delivered like 20 guys straight to the finish line. I hardly remember such sour Sagan loss. JA lost because of him and Greg would never won today without Sagan. On the other side he raced little bit stupid. They would be sprinting for sure third without his effort though so he at least tried. Anyway I am goiong to bed angry.
 
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I'm sick of these wheelsuckers. Bora must buy some good domestiques, it is impressive how can all race against sagan. I really think MVP will be the best thing in classics to sagan.
 
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Is Matthews going to blame this one on positioning as well or was the final just too hard for him?

Too hard, no doubt. And it also makes the explanation for his lack of presence in the front group in Québec a little less likely (though, obviously, he did have quite good legs for the sprint).
 
Omg what was that. Sagan was absolutely bullied there. He delivered like 20 guys straight to the finish line. I hardly remember such sour Sagan loss. JA lost because of him and Greg would never won today without Sagan. On the other side he raced little bit stupid. They would be sprinting for sure third without his effort though so he at least tried. Anyway I am goiong to bed angry.

Relax, it's only a training race.

Bananito 15th. He's ready.
 
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Nov 16, 2013
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Omg what was that. Sagan was absolutely bullied there. He delivered like 20 guys straight to the finish line. I hardly remember such sour Sagan loss. JA lost because of him and Greg would never won today without Sagan. On the other side he raced little bit stupid. They would be sprinting for sure third without his effort though so he at least tried. Anyway I am goiong to bed angry.

You and me both.
 
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GVA on patience and experience. Wouldn't say it's been unfair.

Those finishing Vuelta and Tour of Britain look slightly sharper than the crew opting for Canada. Anyway, two weeks before the race it's clear there's gonna be lots of ready contenders.
 
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It's clear Sagan just saw this as a training. At the WC he would never ride like that. In fact, he's won plenty of races on the backs of others, no need to be sour.
It's crazy.

In Canada there is no place to be but Sagan's wheel, then at the Worlds they usually don't recognize him and lay out the red carpet for him.
 
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It's clear Sagan just saw this as a training. At the WC he would never ride like that. In fact, he's won plenty of races on the backs of others, no need to be sour.

What's that supposed to mean? That he's won bunch sprints? Otherwise, I would like a few examples where he has done less than the lion's share of the work and then won.
 
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1). These motorbikes are a disgrace.
2). Cosnefroy is riding himself into the French team right here. Did you see that little nod of Julian prior to bridging the gap?
It's clear that Roux and Laporte have absolutely no business in the French team for the Worlds. Bring Cosnefroy and Peters, ditch Roux for Molard.
 
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Read RR's comment.

Richmond: I don't think so.

Doha: Every team thought they could win the sprint, and with Cavendish, Kristoff and (to a lesser extent) Boonen that made sense.

Bergen: Okay, there may be something to it, BUT the helicopter clip of the last four kilometres showed that he had also spent some time on the front near the end of the race.

Then there is his very first Tour stage win where he was unwilling to work with Cancellara but otherwise he hasn't really won off other riders' backs many times...
 
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I'm sick of these wheelsuckers. Bora must buy some good domestiques, it is impressive how can all race against sagan. I really think MVP will be the best thing in classics to sagan.

Yes I think this could remove some target of his back. I wonder if MVP would still win after such effort Sagan did today. Sagan is prone to fail in sprint after big effort MVP on the other side has insane recovery.
 
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What's that supposed to mean? That he's won bunch sprints? Otherwise, I would like a few examples where he has done less than the lion's share of the work and then won.
I guess if you go by his logic then every single race Sagan has won in a bunch sprint was on the back of other riders. He's not wrong if you shape it like that.
 
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Who's "shaping"? Where did i say anything about "every single race Sagan has won in a bunch sprint"? Looks like you're the one that's doing the projecting here.
Can you give me an example then? I want to believe you but i can't think of anything other than what tobydawg already mentioned.
 
Can you give me an example then? I want to believe you but i can't think of anything other than what tobydawg already mentioned.
First things that came to mind were WC where he was completely out of contention, but was brought back by idiots that thought they had the best man in their team. The other was his win in Cancellara's wheel where he refused to help. Those were pretty big and important wins i would say. You could also count PR last year, where he had the perfect team mate in Dillier.

And again, the point was that he clearly wasn't riding to win today. He would either have tried to bridge solo, or just let someone else do the dirty work if he wanted to win. Just testing his legs for the Worlds.