gurumuka said:Green Edge have gotta sign Rory Sutherland, no ifs and no buts. The guy is on fire this year and Europe would be a natural progression for him
But he is already contracted with UHC for another year... maybe next year
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gurumuka said:Green Edge have gotta sign Rory Sutherland, no ifs and no buts. The guy is on fire this year and Europe would be a natural progression for him
Damiano Machiavelli said:Is Trent Lowe available or is he still sticking to his story about Garmin destroying his health?
What about that rider that was released from his contract earlier this year for unspecified reasons.
gerrans for the win said:is it that hard to read 3 post up????
clipperton said:are you not contradicting yourself here? saying that points should go to the team but that the team's ranking sohuld be based on the points of the individual? not trolling, just confused.
the other consequence of making teams do a season as pro-conti first up that i can see is that it would make teams regard their protour status with a bit more value. still, wouldn't the way around this simply be for the money behind any given team to just buy out an existing protour team?
But the team could be comprised of many different riders and be a different team. Teams may be getting riders who have points and can get success so they can be apart of the WorldTour. It seems a little unfair that someone's points is going to a team they won't be with.Libertine Seguros said:No, the team's ranking should be based on the points that the TEAM gained the previous year.
The bit about using the individual points was only for judging the merit of a team that starts from scratch, like GreenEdge are doing.
auscyclefan94 said:But the team could be comprised of many different riders and be a different team. Teams may be getting riders who have points and can get success so they can be apart of the WorldTour. It seems a little unfair that someone's points is going to a team they won't be with.
Libertine Seguros said:No, the team's ranking should be based on the points that the TEAM gained the previous year.
The bit about using the individual points was only for judging the merit of a team that starts from scratch, like GreenEdge are doing.
clipperton said:i'm even more confused now. you're saying that existing teams should keep the points that riders gain for them (regardless of whether the riders leave) but that new teams should be judged on the riders they can sign up?
Libertine Seguros said:Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
Teams will be granted licences at each of the 3 levels based on what the team did last year.
Obviously this does not apply to new teams, so their riders' points will be tallied up. If their riders have scored more points than the 41st-ranked TEAM they will be ProContinental, if not they will be Continental.
Under no circumstances should they be WorldTour.
Libertine Seguros said:Yes, but then it's unfair for a team to work all year to gain somebody points, then that person to leave and the team to be left without those points, because they sacrificed potential points scorers to support that person that's leaving.
In football, if a player who scored 25 goals in the season moves team, does he take the matches he won and the goals he scored with him? No. And so it should be with cycling. You leave the team that you gained all those points for? You knew what you were getting yourself into when you moved on.
It helps to protect teams against being given the shoulder in favour of a big money newcomer, and against their leader leaving. If a team's leader leaves they have to scramble hard to find a guy with comparable points to replace them - see Androni Giocattoli losing Scarponi last year.
Libertine Seguros said:Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
Teams will be granted licences at each of the 3 levels based on what the team did last year.
Obviously this does not apply to new teams, so their riders' points will be tallied up. If their riders have scored more points than the 41st-ranked TEAM they will be ProContinental, if not they will be Continental.
Under no circumstances should they be WorldTour.
Green_&_Gold said:I don't think the line up so far is that bad. There is an ok mix so far. All we need is a couple of big names, like Goss and Tony Martin (any chance??) and it would make for a good 1st season. I really rate Gerrans i think he will be a standout. I glad we havent got Lloyd WAY overrated but we should try and get Rory Sutherland.
auscyclefan94 said:Yes but in Soccer, the only scoring option for you is the team. In cycling there are multiple scoring options so a team does not face relegation. Scarponi gave Androni a lot of coverage last year and a lot of results. Points wise it doesn't help them out but tough luck imo, it may be a bit unfair but it is better than your option.
Gloin22 said:Love the way you used 'we'
Libertine Seguros said:Mark Beretta has tweeted the jersey for next year, retweeted by Mark Renshaw. It is rubbish.
Sydney21 said:My first though was Vaitkus too. What about Wurf... I know he was off contract at the end of this year but I doubted that he would leave Basso's side. Hopefully Der Panzerwagon
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