fatandfast said:
don't even bring Maurizio into this.
btw, Greg is my neighbor in PdM and he aint such a bad guy.
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don't even bring Maurizio into this.
btw, Greg is my neighbor in PdM and he aint such a bad guy.
Hell yeah. Fondriest was my first favourite rider when I started watching cycling.Moose McKnuckles said:
Hugh Januss said:
OK Hughieboy ...
Did you read anything about Armstrong in my post? Do you have any clue where I stand regarding him? I didn't think so. Find another thread to make your nonsequitur replies in. Oh yeah .... sorry about the big word near the end there.
redtreviso said:
They should have used Modolo Kronos.. Was Delgado using those beasts also? If you like the Campy brakes cool I am just saying they worked like sh-it and are very heavy. Really cheap on craigslist and ebay
hrotha said:
Honestly, I'm still very disappointed the company closed up shop. I've owned a P4 and a Top Level. I know they're back now, but it's not the same company. That Top Carbon was an absolute work of art too. Magnificent bike.
Lemond is guy you hope your kid grows up to emulate. Worked hard, worked clean. Had to fight for everything. First with his teammate, then to recover, then to win a second tour via the TT.
Always underestimated. Lance should have been more careful with Greg. Still not convinced he and Floyd can't be bought, but Lance should have never let it get this far.
Always underestimated. Lance should have been more careful with Greg. Still not convinced he and Floyd can't be bought, but Lance should have never let it get this far.
sagard said:
Thank goodness Greggie has the Lance hatred. Otherwise he would take down every winner of every other race he chose. God blessed American cycling with Greg. I am sure Greg will be sponsoring American Pro riders in Europe in the near future.
The Hitch said:
Thank you! I started racing 30 years ago, and have coached and mentored national and world class riders. Don't even begin to infer that I don't have the creds to post in "your" forum.
fatandfast said:
Must not have worked too badly.. Maybe theirs were made of unobtainium
Roche in 87
Delgado in 88
sagard said:
Oh you know so little... Please retract that statement for your kids sake. Last year you would have said the same thing about Tiger Woods...
Notice Roche using an A rather than the R type Cinelli stem the "fist" in the R model had a habit of breaking when using upturned TT bars. The brakes were more easily towed with a file than the screws provided..When Delgado came up positive was he using C Record? I better look to Greg or Paul Kimmage to see if there is any "association". Greg may want to Paul so all the info is the same..Kimmage unlike Lemond and Landis pushed people under the bus in his book but for the most part they were already dead
fatandfast said:
Actually Delgado never came up positive,,,at least good thing for him it wasn't the olympics. and yes he used Record C..
Greg,
You're soooo tired. Give it a rest. Like you were clean?
And cyclingnews, why are you paying this hack?
You're soooo tired. Give it a rest. Like you were clean?
And cyclingnews, why are you paying this hack?
Greg Lemond: d-bag or hero
Is anybody else out there tired of the has-been musings of Greg Lemond? The guy has shown no integrity whatsoever in his post-racing business dealings and yet still manages to sling mud and further tarnish the image of cycling with his every utterance. The guy comes off with all the dignity of a cast off, aging, former trophy wife.
Is anybody else out there tired of the has-been musings of Greg Lemond? The guy has shown no integrity whatsoever in his post-racing business dealings and yet still manages to sling mud and further tarnish the image of cycling with his every utterance. The guy comes off with all the dignity of a cast off, aging, former trophy wife.
Another muppet. This time the turd attacks Lemond's wife.
DanMurray. Salad tosser extraordinaire.
DanMurray. Salad tosser extraordinaire.
I talked to a mechanic years ago who worked for the 7-Eleven team who told me it was pretty common knowledge that Lemond doped. If you'll remember, he rode the 1989 Giro and was getting dropped by everybody. In a time trial late in the race he placed highly after being given "iron" injections a day or two before. Nevermind that iron doesn't increase power and endurance, especially not in just a couple of days. So, what were these injections? I don't know. And neither does Greg know if Lance took anything. Maybe he did, but Lemond should just put a sock in it until he knows the facts.
It pains me to wish Lemond would go away as he was a hero of mine for so many years.
Maybe Lance doped maybe he didnt, who knows. Hes tested positive the same amount of times as Lemond which is why it bothers me so much that Lemond does this. The harder he pushes this, the more it makes me wonder if he was a doper himself. It makes me think of people such as Ted Haggard and Larry Craig who have no problem casting the first stone. I guess we'll never know in Lemonds case. The problem I have is all of his theories of people being guilty based on their wattage compared with his, or because they are associated with Dr Ferarri. While this certainly is cause for concern, it is not proof, therefore I have a big problem with how Lemond is handling this.
Lemond constantly makes insinuating comments about riders getting faster, going up climbs easier or producing more wattage than him. He says that the human race hasnt changed in the last 20 years and therefore they must be doping to get the results they are. Yet bravo to the new generation like Alberto and Andy that arent dopers, but wait, arent they going up the climbs faster and producing more wattage? It doesnt make any sense. And this is coming from a man that skirted the broom wagon at the 1989 TdT. When I think of Lemonds early season training, that image burns in my mind while when I think of Lance's early season training I think of riding up Hautacam 2x in 40 degree weather or swallowing thermometers to measure his body temp while riding on Kona.
I dont mean to make this a Lance vs Lemond thing, and yes I think Lemond does have some valid points, but his heresay conclusions make no sense to me. This obviously goes way past him just thinking Lance was a doper.
Maybe Lance doped maybe he didnt, who knows. Hes tested positive the same amount of times as Lemond which is why it bothers me so much that Lemond does this. The harder he pushes this, the more it makes me wonder if he was a doper himself. It makes me think of people such as Ted Haggard and Larry Craig who have no problem casting the first stone. I guess we'll never know in Lemonds case. The problem I have is all of his theories of people being guilty based on their wattage compared with his, or because they are associated with Dr Ferarri. While this certainly is cause for concern, it is not proof, therefore I have a big problem with how Lemond is handling this.
Lemond constantly makes insinuating comments about riders getting faster, going up climbs easier or producing more wattage than him. He says that the human race hasnt changed in the last 20 years and therefore they must be doping to get the results they are. Yet bravo to the new generation like Alberto and Andy that arent dopers, but wait, arent they going up the climbs faster and producing more wattage? It doesnt make any sense. And this is coming from a man that skirted the broom wagon at the 1989 TdT. When I think of Lemonds early season training, that image burns in my mind while when I think of Lance's early season training I think of riding up Hautacam 2x in 40 degree weather or swallowing thermometers to measure his body temp while riding on Kona.
I dont mean to make this a Lance vs Lemond thing, and yes I think Lemond does have some valid points, but his heresay conclusions make no sense to me. This obviously goes way past him just thinking Lance was a doper.
mcmc08 said:
Awesome. Another incarnation of the same poster. DanMurray, mcmc08, etc., etc.
Different kernels of corn in the same turdpile.
Alpe d'Huez said:
I'm sure you'll have lots more merging with all the one post wonders that are the Lemond-Should-Go-Away Brigade.
Do they get paid more for starting threads?
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