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A couple of scenarios on how his confession plays out:
- He posts a lame, limited confession on the Friday afternoon before super bowl sunday, and gets buried in the news.
- He goes on the Ellen show, and gives his confession, and plays the cancer and Livestrong angle, supported by lots of photos of him running and doing tris with his kids at the finish line to play the family guy angle.
- He strikes a deal with SCA and the Sunday Times to settle the lawsuits. All details of the deal remain sealed, but he is forced to give a limited confession.
- He gives a lame "I only doped once or twice but always during the off season and never during the TdF and furthermore after 2006 I was clean now can I go run the Boston marathon and get my hefty appearance fee? Please?"
The only way I will forgive the guy is if he tells all and is sincere, brings down the UCI, and agrees to honor the lifetime ban. This last point is important to me because I don't want him at any race that I do.
- He posts a lame, limited confession on the Friday afternoon before super bowl sunday, and gets buried in the news.
- He goes on the Ellen show, and gives his confession, and plays the cancer and Livestrong angle, supported by lots of photos of him running and doing tris with his kids at the finish line to play the family guy angle.
- He strikes a deal with SCA and the Sunday Times to settle the lawsuits. All details of the deal remain sealed, but he is forced to give a limited confession.
- He gives a lame "I only doped once or twice but always during the off season and never during the TdF and furthermore after 2006 I was clean now can I go run the Boston marathon and get my hefty appearance fee? Please?"
The only way I will forgive the guy is if he tells all and is sincere, brings down the UCI, and agrees to honor the lifetime ban. This last point is important to me because I don't want him at any race that I do.
- May 26, 2010
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If the comments section of the NYT is anything to go by on public opinion, it is too late for Wonderboy, the horse has bolted on his life. It will take genuine heartfelt contrition over a long period of time to earn a small size of respect that he once had amongst the general public who know nothing of cycling.
All he can hope for now is that the name Lance Armstrong* becomes synonymous as the most famous doper in the history of sport. He is halfway there.
*I wonder would he revert to Gunderson at some stage in the future.
All he can hope for now is that the name Lance Armstrong* becomes synonymous as the most famous doper in the history of sport. He is halfway there.
*I wonder would he revert to Gunderson at some stage in the future.
- Aug 11, 2012
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Benotti69 said:
Well, he still has a huge fan in Phil, Sally, and this Watson fellow, so he's got that going for him
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trailrunner said:
Dont forget, theres still a chance he can do appearances on a number of shows still, imagine the possibilities: Oprah(claim to be a member of her stupid "book club" or something), Maury("Lance you ARE the father of one nut little Mikey"), Springer(" I dated Lance and now I have tumors growing out of my head"), Ricki Lake(" I slept with an Olsen twin"), or Dr. Phil(" Lance Armstrong, this is your life, why are you being such a jackass Lance?") Or the Piers Morgan show("In Britain they loathe you Wonderboy, what do you say to that?")?
- Aug 30, 2010
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goggalor said:
Totally agree. He wants to win IM more than he wanted the TdF. Before, it was all about his ego, now he wants revenge, to shove it in the face of all detractors. And he will continue to dope, it is the only way he knows. **** him is right. He has no place in sports ever again.
What if he cofesses to doping just so he could keep up with those nasty Euro's, and then someone uncovers proof that he has been doping since he was 16,
A confession would be redundant, wouldn't it? He's already been found guilty. He is guilty. Convicted criminals confess to their crimes all the time, but it doesn't change the verdict or the punishment.
But he could be prosecuted for perjury, reignite criminal proceedings against a number of individuals (including himself), spur a circus of civil suits, and possibly bring down the UCI once and for all, which would all be very entertaining.
He is the gift that keeps on giving, isn't he?
But he could be prosecuted for perjury, reignite criminal proceedings against a number of individuals (including himself), spur a circus of civil suits, and possibly bring down the UCI once and for all, which would all be very entertaining.
He is the gift that keeps on giving, isn't he?
- May 27, 2012
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Based on this story, which just seems like strung together hot air, I have no idea...actually I could care less whether the guy confesses or not...but one thing I am sure about, whichever way he goes will be all about whatever is in Lance's numero uno interest...and if he does confess it will just be yet another installment of the ongoing scam that is his life...
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86TDFWinner said:
The fluff talk show circuit will happen 6 months or a year or two later, after his name has faded from memory and on the verge of being forgotten. It's all part of the plan -- the limited, calculated, partial confession now, let the dust settle, people forgive and forget, and then the re-emergence. We'll be seeing him on the grocery store magazines. The articles will start "LA, who at one time used PEDs (like everyone else in the sport at that time) but who has since his confession in 2013 has been an outspoken advocate against drugs and for a clean lifestyle. We're with Lance in his Mailbu house overlooking the ocean, where he lives with his adorable kids." And will go on to describe the fashionable clothes he is wearing, his struggles raising a teenage kid, and so on. As part of his re-emergence as a clean athlete, 5 years down the line he'll probably be promoting a super healthy lifestyle and will be hawking a line of organic fruit drinks and weight loss programs. Who knows - he may even get reunited with his ex-wife and open up a luxury spa retreat where you can spend a week training and getting pampered.
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If, IF LA admits and confesses (sounds like a song title), he is still, nonetheless, guilty criminally and liable civilly. His "fessing up" changes nothing.
In fact, it opens LA to all the ancillary litigation and, in fact, heaps perjury charges into the mix. We are talking millions of US$ and maybe prison. Restitution - ha!
And, the IRS tax matters and the Livestrong abuses.
Let us not forget that LA is not just about PEDs and TsdF. LA is about drug trafficking, dealing, distribution, fraud, extortion, bribery, defamation/slander, etc. Confessing would open even more floodgates.
We must also consider the ethics, the morality - or lack thereof - of LA. He seems to be NOT a nice human being who has destroyed many careers and lives. He also will have been proven a liar- a liar for decades!
BOTTOM LINE - with this charade of confession, LA does nothing of substance but still, keeps his name alive in the media. This very thread keeps LA alive - in a bad light, but still better in his mind, than a "Lance WHO?". IMHO, he is still a media who ore.
In fact, it opens LA to all the ancillary litigation and, in fact, heaps perjury charges into the mix. We are talking millions of US$ and maybe prison. Restitution - ha!
And, the IRS tax matters and the Livestrong abuses.
Let us not forget that LA is not just about PEDs and TsdF. LA is about drug trafficking, dealing, distribution, fraud, extortion, bribery, defamation/slander, etc. Confessing would open even more floodgates.
We must also consider the ethics, the morality - or lack thereof - of LA. He seems to be NOT a nice human being who has destroyed many careers and lives. He also will have been proven a liar- a liar for decades!
BOTTOM LINE - with this charade of confession, LA does nothing of substance but still, keeps his name alive in the media. This very thread keeps LA alive - in a bad light, but still better in his mind, than a "Lance WHO?". IMHO, he is still a media who ore.
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Carols said:
It's more than that. This initial story is a way of breaking the bad news gently, a little at a time. Give a little hint now, let the shock wear off, let people accept it -- and then a bit later comes the confession and reincarnation of LA 3.0.
Carols said:
There's a whole 'nother public he's going after. The hardcore cyclists are a lost cause and he'll never get them back. He's after the much larger mainstream public - the ones who aren't paying close attention now but will be doing charity triathlons and buying his products 5 years from now.
- Aug 13, 2009
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Carols said:
This is a very astute observation and correct.
Lance will only ever do what's good for himself. If there was a $3m prize pool at the end of an admission he'd do it. If there was a eBay store for selling your own Mother for 5m he'd do it.
He does not do things out of goodwill or remorse.
Tygert will only accept an admission from Armstrong if a) it implicates the UCI and b) provides information on Ferrari.
Thus I cannot see Lance selling in Michiele.
Pat and Hein, yes, but not Shumi.
Secondary to all of this is the legal aspects. They are complex. Any admission may expose himself too much to further litigation, perjury and destroy his position in any further cases Federally. That's a big risk.
Finally. Mrs. A is right. He should not be trusted. He lies, steals, berates, chastises and commited fraud against anyone who didn't protect the lie for over 20 years. He also compounded the doping culture in the sport. Even at Comeback 2.0 he was makings a mockery of anti-doping with Catlin etc. further destroying anti-doping and the sport.
If McQuaid was right about one thing it was "Lance Armstrong has no place in cycling".
Now triathlon maybe a different story. Although I believe the tide has turned and there is no benefit for the sport of Tri employing him. They don't need to.
In my own opinion. Now is not the time to let your guard down. Now is not the time for forgiveness. We should be just as robust as we were during his cycling career and comebacks etc. with this p1sswewk attempt at a confession.
If Floyd, Tyler et al have the courage to tell ther stories to family and the world in person then this big buffoon should man up and do the same. Leaking press stories and using Graham Watson to write blogs is just as a pathetic as his entire career.
The man is weak and a nobody. Obscurity is the best place for him.
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Race Radio said:
Good Rebuttal by Betsy.
He'll do any good only if he brings the UCI down and at least apologizes to all those who suffered because of him.
However he'll definitely have to pay SCA, Sunday Times and may have to settle other court cases too.
It'll probably hit his wallet hard in the short run, so don't know whether he'll be up for it.
- Nov 7, 2009
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Moose McKnuckles said:
I agree with Betsy. Lance is a scumbag. No way should this turd ever compete again. He's a complete and utter POS.
- Nov 7, 2009
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I'm going to laugh when Lance confesses, then pops a positive in his first race back.
I agree with Betsy. Lance is a scumbag. No way should this turd ever compete again. He's a complete and utter POS.
I agree with Betsy. Lance is a scumbag. No way should this turd ever compete again. He's a complete and utter POS.
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