Benotti69 said:But it will be pointed out he had the UCI in his pocket amongst other unfair advantages, hardly a level field.
The non-cycling public doesn't know or care who the UCI is. Those are the people he will try to win back.
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Benotti69 said:But it will be pointed out he had the UCI in his pocket amongst other unfair advantages, hardly a level field.
gjdavis60 said:A confession would be redundant, wouldn't it? He's already been found guilty. He is guilty. Convicted criminals confess to their crimes all the time, but it doesn't change the verdict or the punishment.
But he could be prosecuted for perjury, reignite criminal proceedings against a number of individuals (including himself), spur a circus of civil suits, and possibly bring down the UCI once and for all, which would all be very entertaining.
He is the gift that keeps on giving, isn't he?
Disgraced cycling champion Lance Armstrong has authorized overtures to the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency about the possibility of coming forward to acknowledge his use of performance-enhancing drugs during his career, according to a source who confirmed a report that initially appeared in the New York Times.
Page Mill Masochist said:Speaking of Tim Herman, do any of Lance's paid liars have problems if Lance makes a full confession? Could Herman get disbarred if it was obvious he knew Lance had doped? Could he be sued for defamation?
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Darryl Webster said:IF this story is genuine I think it might be best seen as a threat to to confess. Not to diminish any of actions of Armstrong but it seems to me there are many, including possibly high ranking political figures and some extremely wealthy business men who have much to lose from Lance doing a Tyler Hamilton.
The last thing those who havnt established plausible deniability want is him telling everything.
Ergo....Taken as a threat those same people who have, most likely , in the main, kept some distance might start pulling some strings to get the heat of Armstrong . It's very possible he has info that makes Tylers book look like a side dish.
I really don't seen this as about a return to any competition.
86TDFWinner said:ESPN'S reporting Wonderboy is "considering" admitting to the whole enchilada, so he can get back to.competition. Donkeys have flown, the tooth fairy really DOES exist, blah blah blah. He's only doing this now because of the hit he's taken. The guy is just unbelieveable. Just when we all thought we've seen it all with this a$$hole, he tops it. This oughta be good.
BroDeal said:I LOLed when I read this:
Disgraced cycling champion Lance Armstrong has authorized overtures...
I remember how newspapers seemed to think that Landis' first name was Disgraced Cyclist.
If negotiations ended I assume that Armstrong ran into the eight year minimum ban and decided it was not worth it.
BroDeal said:I am not sure how he can do a full confession. A self-serving mea culpa, yeah, but a full confession that would toss the last allies he has under the bus, nope. It is likely they have as damaging information about him as he does about them. I don't see how he can risk people talking about him hacking people's e-mail accounts, bugging phones, suborning perjury, evading taxes, etc.
I think he will eventually do a confession just for public consumption with a lot of self-serving justification but no details. It will just be rhetoric.
Darryl Webster said:IF this story is genuine I think it might be best seen as a threat to to confess. Not to diminish any of actions of Armstrong but it seems to me there are many, including possibly high ranking political figures and some extremely wealthy business men who have much to lose from Lance doing a Tyler Hamilton.
The last thing those who havnt established plausible deniability want is him telling everything.
Ergo....Taken as a threat those same people who have, most likely , in the main, kept some distance might start pulling some strings to get the heat of Armstrong . It's very possible he has info that makes Tylers book look like a side dish.
I really don't seen this as about a return to any competition.
MarkvW said:If Floyd is a big fat liar with very weak credibility (and indeed he is), then Lance is one of the biggest fattest liars that ever walked the face of the earth. Any human being would be a complete moron to trust a single sound that is emitted from the lie projector Armstrong calls a mouth.
Anything, and I mean anything, coming from Armstrong's mouth would have to be corroborated by really good evidence that is free of the Armstrong taint. Otherwise no lawyer would dare bring Armstrong's testimony into court.
No current riders are at risk from Lance's testimony unless there is already substantial corroborative evidence of their doping. That would only apply to USPS Conspiracy dopers, I reckon.
cineteq said:Is Tim still Lance's lawyer?
86TDFWinner said:ESPN'S reporting Wonderboy is "considering" admitting to the whole enchilada, so he can get back to.competition.
ustabe said:It's a bit late for this, eh?
D-Queued said:cineteq said:Is Tim still Lance's lawyer?
Doesn't Herman's denial confirm that?
Herman's disclaimer confirms the overture was true. The game is on.
Dave.
By JULIET MACUR
Published: January 5, 2013
Yet within the last month, Armstrong’s representatives reached out to Tygart to arrange a meeting between Armstrong and the agency. The goal of that meeting was to find out if a confession could mitigate Armstrong’s lifetime ban from Olympic sports, according to several people with knowledge of the situation. Those people did not want their names published because it would jeopardize their access to sensitive information on the matter.
Tygart welcomed the invitation, and that meeting occurred last month, said one person familiar with the situation. In the end, no matter how much Tygart and Armstrong had fought each other, they still need each other.
But Tim Herman, Armstrong’s Austin-based lawyer, said that talks with Tygart and the antidoping agency are not on the table. Armstrong has not met with Tygart, Herman said.
Armstrong, 41, would like to resume competing in triathlons and running events that are sanctioned by organizations that follow the World Anti-Doping Code. Tygart wants to know how Armstrong so skillfully eluded testing positive for banned drugs for nearly a decade.
Tygart, who declined to comment, has said in the past that he is interested in hearing from athletes who doped because they could lead him to the coaches, agents, doctors, team owners or other sports personnel who organized or encouraged doping.
“Mr. Armstrong did not act alone,” the antidoping agency wrote in its report on Armstrong. “He acted with a small army of enablers, including doping doctors, drug smugglers and others within the sport and on his team.”
If Tygart is able to gather incriminating information about those people and build cases against them that could bar them from sports, he could deal a serious blow to the doping that has been enmeshed in the culture of cycling for more than 100 years. Though 11 of Armstrong’s former teammates provided some information about those enablers, it is very likely that Armstrong, who kept much of the doping secretive, according to some of his teammates, knows much more.
“I think it’s very valuable to them to know exactly how Lance avoided getting caught and how tests were evaded,” said Jonathan Vaughters, a former Armstrong teammate, a vocal antidoping proponent and a current co-owner of the Garmin-Sharp professional cycling team. “They need someone on the inside to tell them how it was done, and not just anyone on the inside, someone on the inside who was very influential. Someone like Lance.”
Vaughters said that a confession by Armstrong might encourage other riders to say what they know and encourage a “truth and reconciliation” effort, in which riders would not be penalized for confessing to doping if they detailed how they got away with it. That effort could educate authorities, so those entities could bolster drug testing and close any loopholes, Vaughters said.
“I feel like Lance’s confession could push that effort forward dramatically,” he said. “Right now, we almost have to destroy the sport in order to save it.”
Fausto's Schnauzer said:Hey, despite being a lying, cheating, vindictive a-hole, even his biggest detractors in the peloton will agree that no matter how you slice it the guy was/is a great athlete. He'll of course never repair his legacy but in my eyes he could earn back a degree of respect IF he did the following:
1. Provided a complete confession going back to his junior days.
2. Testified to reveal the full depth of corruption within the UCI to bring down McQuaid, Verbruggen and any other conspirators within the UCI.
3. Testified against Ferrarri.
4. Revealed the sources of the drugs and how they were transported.
5. Issued full apologies to Betsy, Greg, Floyd, Emma, Bassons, Simeoni, Livestrong supporters, et al.
6. Began a sincere campaign against PEDs in the sport, including the amateur levels.
Of course none of this will do anything toward restoring faith in our sport in the eyes of the general public. And of course if he were to do all of this there could be numerous complications caused by all of the winged swine flapping overhead.