Jan Ullrich still has it!!!

[jsem94]

I can't believe someone would seriously be saying that drunk driving is not such a big deal, that accidents happen anyway. Even though you might still be able to drive, your senses are impaired in one way or another slowing down your reaction time.

Of course, many other factors than alcohol do contribute to traffic accidents, but you can't neglect the effect of alcohol. Maybe the accident would have happened anyway, but that's not the point. The point is that when you're consciously upping the risks of getting yourself involved in those situations and harming innocent people I'm going to seriously question that persons integrity and personal ethics.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

I can't believe someone would seriously be saying that drunk driving is not such a big deal, that accidents happen anyway. Even though you might still be able to drive, your senses are impaired in one way or another slowing down your reaction time.

Of course, many other factors than alcohol do contribute to traffic accidents, but you can't neglect the effect of alcohol. Maybe the accident would have happened anyway, but that's not the point. The point is that when you're consciously upping the risks of getting yourself involved in those situations and harming innocent people I'm going to seriously question that persons integrity and personal ethics.

I think you go a little over the top. I said he did a mistake. No doubt about it. But we should see the difference between being truly drunk and having 1.4 promille. In Germany that´s 3/4 beers of 0.5 liter. No big deal. Just go back to my OP post. I never advertised drunk driving. I advertised freedom. That includes beer for one group of persons, and Tramadol or Mariuhana (BTW, worse than drinking since you get dizzy and destroy your lungs) for others...
OK. Question people about ethics and integrity. Start with politicans and corrupt business leaders, but leave the harmless people alone who just enjoy life... I have more integrity than the best politican or attorney walking around. I am 100% sure about that.

 

[Race Radio]

But we should see the difference between being truly drunk and having 1.4 promille. In Germany that´s 3/4 beers of 0.5 liter. No big deal.

it is 4 beers in an hour. It is almost triple the legal limit.

 

[webvan]

Yeah 1.4 g/l is pretty high, once you hit 1 you can definitely feel it...i.e. you feel drunk.

 

[Jagartrott]

I suggest that swooshing a sword around in public should now be allowed. It's called FREEDOM. If you get hit by a sword, don't be too angry, at least we can rest assured that my freedom to randomly swirl with swords was preserved. Let's get our priorities straight.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

it is 4 beers in an hour. It is almost triple the legal limit.

How you know that? You was with him? How was the party?

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

I suggest that swooshing a sword around in public should now be allowed. It's called FREEDOM. If you get hit by a sword, don't be too angry, at least we can rest assured that my freedom to randomly swirl with swords was preserved. Let's get our priorities straight.

Comparing apples with oranges...
... Omg you people are all chastised. The leaders love it, and laugh about you all. The rules don´t apply to them. Wanna know what´s sick? If you are the 1%, a diplomat for example, you can get lights out drunk swing a sword, kill some people on your way and still get off scot free. That is sick, not some small guy going out partying and then having a accident...

 

[Netserk]

How you know that? You was with him? How was the party?

Yes let's make it longer, so it'd be more likely 2½-3L of beer...

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Ok, lets make it longer:
1.4 promille is between 1.6 and 1.9 liters of beer (at the normal 4.8somthing % alc), thus no way close to your estimated 3 liters. We talk german beer BTW. Not the §hit that is served in the USA...

And 1.something liters of beer doesn´t make a grown up german drunk...

 

[Netserk]

Okay let's go through this so everybody can understand. Let's assume Jan weights 80kg. Let's assume he started drinking three hours before he was tested, and stopped drinking one hour before, so all the alcohol is in the blood and not in the gut. Oh and let's assume the beer has a concentration of 4.6%.

1.41‰ at 80kg means he had 76.7ml of pure alcohol in his blood. Three hours to metabolize alcohol means an additional 30ml. That's 106.7ml in total consumed, which with a concentration of 4.6% means 2.32L of beer. That's seven beers in Denmark. Consumed in two hours. And bear in mind it'd have been more if some where consumed within the hour he was tested. Or if he started sooner.

 

[Race Radio]

How you know that?

It is simple math. Most countries even have graphs that show how many beers will get you to the limit depending on your weight.....in Jan's case he was almost 3 times the limit so he drank a lot.

 

[Walkman]

Who is the idiot? The one with a different opinion, or those who can´t discuss without offending?

Ok, I might have have been a little quick to call you and idiot, I am sorry for that.

Happened to someone I know. The judge didn´t gave a penalty. It was a accident. Now if the same woman had a glass of wine, hell would have broken lose... all those phucking double standards... Ullrich was wrong place, wrong time. Period. My opinion.

I don't understand how that can be labeled "double standards". If you consume alcohol, your ability control your vehicle will decrease and you judgement will also deteriorate, hence an accident is more likely to happen.

 

[Bye Bye Bicycle]

A lot of "it".

 

[webvan]

Wow...how he could that happen, sad.

 

[Gloin22]

Why not? Considering cyclists diets are so **** you gotta enjoy yourself after ending carrer

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Why not? Considering cyclists diets are so **** you gotta enjoy yourself after ending carrer

Ulle did a lot of things. Keeping a strict diet was not one of them

 

[mewmewmew13]

oh nooo..
I hope that is an effect of the camera lens..

 

[Escarabajo]

A lot of "it".

So that means No Comeback???

Did he hate cycling? or the discipline of it?

 

[procyclingfan]

Picture is taken last december. To me he looks like he is in his best condition since years. Check his facebook page and you will see a quite fit looking 41 year old guy.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

He's always so happy. Good to see!

 

[Zam_Olyas]

He's always so happy. Good to see!

 

[kingjr]

or the discipline of it?

I'm fairly sure he did, at least after his first Tour win. I also believe that by nature, his body tends to be more 'stocky' or 'thickset' (I don't what's the proper english word) and he needed to fight harder than most to keep his weight down in the first place. Take a look at his brother Stefan for example.

 

[mewmewmew13]

He's always so happy. Good to see!

yay!
the next pic he looks terrific!

 

[mewmewmew13]

lol Zam
Elle looks so handsome and happy in the mt pic

 

[Bavarianrider]

Der Kaiser is having a great time