Jan Ullrich

[Cobblestoned]

First reactions bei Sueddeutsche.de (Sueddeutsche being the newspaper that brought Fuentes and Puerto in the attention of the German public back then), Spiegel.de and FAZ.net are quite moderate.

Those are only some quick plain news.
Andi B. is not the fastest, you know. Same for Thomas K. and the Spiegel-guys.
They will do several masterpieces.

Including their full pleasure and Schadenfreude into their masterpieces and palmares will need some cooking time.

 

[Cobblestoned]

And who is there first on CN ?
Our Dumbo.
Always there first.

“Perhaps someone will now want to give back the prize money I got from Ullrich for the Tour de Suisse win in 2006. That would probably be about 1,000 euro.”
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/germans-still-waiting-for-ullrichs-comments-on-cas-decision

Did he really say that ? That ********* ************* ** * ***** ******** *******, that can't be true.

Need coffee. More is better.

 

[pmcg76]

I would love to know what is so different about urine samples containing EPO and blood bags sitting in an office in Spain. Ridiculous that it has taken 6 years to finally ban Ullrich even though hs is retired. Amazing job UCI.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

It is not really fair to put the whole blame on the UCI. The UCI sent the case to the Swiss in August 2006, and there was no decision from the Swiss until January 2010.

The CAS' decision puts a lot of blame for the delays in its case squarely on Ullrich and his attorneys.

Read the decision......

Susan

 

[Stingray34]

Need coffee. More is better.

Need morphine. More is better. To help understand the fuzzy logic of the UCI AKA FUBAR AKA Phat Pat the SNAFU General.

 

[Stingray34]

It is not really fair to put the whole blame on the UCI. The UCI sent the case to the Swiss in August 2006, and there was no decision from the Swiss until January 2010.

The CAS' decision puts a lot of blame for the delays in its case squarely on Ullrich and his attorneys.

Read the decision......

Susan

And then the UCI and WADA took it to CAS....and haven't these CAS characters covered themselves in glory this week. No steak, no needle, it was probably a supplement. Oh wait, one of them has a runny nose, better postpone for six months. Some one's questioned a dispassionate arbitrator, better get a kiss from mummie.

 

[Cobblestoned]

It is not really fair to put the whole blame on the UCI. The UCI sent the case to the Swiss in August 2006, and there was no decision from the Swiss until January 2010.

The CAS' decision puts a lot of blame for the delays in its case squarely on Ullrich and his attorneys.

Read the decision......

Susan

That Swiss guy, IIRC he was called Herr Schläfli.

What would that mean in English ? Mr.Snoozy, Mr.Snoozer, Mr.Nappy ?

 

[Stingray34]

Courtrooms need more guys like this

Give this man a flamethrower

 

[Stingray34]

That Swiss guy, IIRC he was called Herr Schläfli.

What would that mean in English ? Mr.Snoozy, Mr.Snoozer, Mr.Nappy ?

He's royalty: Prince Valium

 

[Wallace]

I think we can all agree that this decision will have a decisive impact in the effort to clean up our sport. While some might decry the continuing chase after a long-retired cyclist who was generally regarded as the most talented GT rider of his generation and who was repeatedly beaten by a rider of infinitely lesser natural abilities who was recently and farcically exonerated as a pathetic charade (please note that my syntax here is as convoluted as the logic you have to follow to make any kind of sense of today's announcement), those of us who believe in the importance of clean sport know that this decision is precisely the kind of thing needed to... oh **** it. What a bunch of idiots. Leave Ullrich alone. He's paid fines, he's retired and he's said what's needed to be said. He was also, by all accounts, one of the few genuinely decent men in the peloton, and by all accounts resisted doping as much as possible while still trying to compete with HWMNBM, the uber-doper. This decision, as much as anything we've seen in this amazing week, highlights what a total joke this sport has become.

 

[Cobblestoned]

Prof. Franke, directly from goggle-translate

"I laugh me down on the CAS judges and the sport, which allied itself with dopers. The ruling comes too late, was overdue for years and is much too soft for all that stuff. Jan Ullrich is about 20 times alone for blood doping with Fuentes down. Because of the outrageous lies that Mr. Ullrich I processed four and a half years. But the common Germanic tolerated even lies a lot. I would have expected at least an apology from Ullrich. "

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/reaktionen-zum-ullrich-urteil-ich-lache-mich-kaputt-1.1279747

 

[Stingray34]

-37 in Germany, oil shortage, they're firing up nuclear reactors and Lance is off the hook while Conti and Jan are banned. Hell has finally frozen over. Now, when's Monica Bellucci gonna show up on my doorstep? Or am I already dead?

 

[Benotti69]

Like the UCI didn't (and don't)know what is going on

Obviously Ullrich fed up paying the UCI and not getting the protection they profess to offer

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I think we can all agree that this decision will have a decisive impact in the effort to clean up our sport. While some might decry the continuing chase after a long-retired cyclist who was generally regarded as the most talented GT rider of his generation and who was repeatedly beaten by a rider of infinitely lesser natural abilities who was recently and farcically exonerated as a pathetic charade (please note that my syntax here is as convoluted as the logic you have to follow to make any kind of sense of today's announcement), those of us who believe in the importance of clean sport know that this decision is precisely the kind of thing needed to... oh **** it. What a bunch of idiots. Leave Ullrich alone. He's paid fines, he's retired and he's said what's needed to be said. He was also, by all accounts, one of the few genuinely decent men in the peloton, and by all accounts resisted doping as much as possible while still trying to compete with HWMNBM, the uber-doper. This decision, as much as anything we've seen in this amazing week, highlights what a total joke this sport has become.

While I understand your sentiments, really you cannot look for sanctions/sentences/closure etc for one rider and not the other, if they were doping (& its within SoL) then they should be punished, it isn't a personality competition.

I think it is good that this is finally resolved - and I hope Ullrich acknowledges it.
He doesn't have to tell all or do a tearful confession, but I believe if he accepts responsibility for what he has done he will be able to move on with his life, which he appears to be doing quite well, which is great to see.

 

[hfer07]

What is the "real purpose" of this ban? A "symbolic gesture" for an "unfinished ordeal"??? What this ban accomplishes in order to benefit the current Peloton?
I'm really mad at CAS and their modus operandi -Let alone UCI with their entire shameful approach to doping cases.......

Jan & the rest of the world can finally move on to.... nowhere, since the ban is irrelevant at this point

 

[SiAp1984]

Those are only some quick plain news.
Andi B. is not the fastest, you know. Same for Thomas K. and the Spiegel-guys.
They will do several masterpieces.

Including their full pleasure and Schadenfreude into their masterpieces and palmares will need some cooking time.

They might lower their tone as at least some German journalists try to be more moderate in their comments since the Enke-suicide (whcih of course had a completely different background). But Ullrich had a burnout himself, so they might treat him more gentle by now. Unlie they did from 2006-7

 

[Bavarianrider]

The verdict is one huge as joke
Why starts the ban in 2011 that's ridicilous.
Given the fact that all his resukts were banned after 2005, this basically means a 8 year ban.
Why does Basso keep his resuklts and Ulle looses them. Why starts Contadors ban in 2010 and Ulle in 2011, that's crazy!!!!!!

 

[Benotti69]

What is the "real purpose" of this ban? A "symbolic gesture" for an "unfinished ordeal"??? What this ban accomplishes in order to benefit the current Peloton?
I'm really mad at CAS and their modus operandi -Let alone UCI with their entire shameful approach to doping cases.......

Jan & the rest of the world can finally move on to.... nowhere, since the ban is irrelevant at this point

It makes the UCI look good. It makes the UCI powerful to say we can destroy careers and legacies even after riders retire.

 

[thehog]

What is the "real purpose" of this ban? A "symbolic gesture" for an "unfinished ordeal"??? What this ban accomplishes in order to benefit the current Peloton?
I'm really mad at CAS and their modus operandi -Let alone UCI with their entire shameful approach to doping cases.......

Jan & the rest of the world can finally move on to.... nowhere, since the ban is irrelevant at this point

CAS applies the rules as defined by UCI and WADA. They don't take into account if the rider is riding or not riding.

If anything its gives some hope if the Armstrong case ever went to CAS they wouild apply a sanction and stripping of titles to him.

 

[Bavarianrider]

So Ullrich loses his Giro Stage win and Basso gets it. That's as crazy as it gets. **** you Cas, only cause he's german

 

[thehog]

So Ullrich loses his Giro Stage win and Basso gets it. That's as crazy as it gets. **** you Cas, only cause he's german

Of course.... that is crazy but CAS wouldn't be looking at the results sheet. They just apply the rules as defined.

 

[Benotti69]

So Ullrich loses his Giro Stage win and Basso gets it. That's as crazy as it gets. **** you Cas, only cause he's german

Yeah Basso won the Giro by over 9minutes. Crazy joke!

 

[Escarabajo]

Ullrich can't confess to doping in 2000 or he loses the Olympic gold.

I thought the statute of limitations is 8 years. So He should be able to keep that if he confesses now. But anything within that time he can loose.

 

[Escarabajo]

I think everyone else was either on the OP list, failed a test. He said DIRECT. last I checked Popo had his house raided but unless there is some secret news that I missed.

Ok. I get your point. But trying to scan that list now and looking for riders not incriminated directly in doping is worthless. Even if there is no direct association.

 

[MacRoadie]

Ullrich can't confess to doping in 2000 or he loses the Olympic gold.

Why would he want to confess to anything?

He's been sanctioned, and he lost a few less-than-stellar results (I'm not too sure he's pining over that third place Tour podium). He's been retired for years now, and seems to be quite content away from competetive cycling. If he's dying to race again, he can do so in 18 months.

Zero up-side.