Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Mountain Sprinter

[memyselfandI]

I don't thinks Vingo is very smart, but I reckon that what we get from pro riders are comments and statements when their brain are running on slow amounts of O2.

Bit harsh to say like that.. Maybe he's not that smart as we here, but smart enough to be there at the WT bunch. And make right decisions even in deep oxygen dept, no?

 

[RedheadDane]

Bit harsh to say like that.. Maybe he's not that smart as we here, but smart enough to be there at the WT bunch. And make right decisions even in deep oxygen dept, no?

Damn, you have to be smart to be here... ? Guess I'll have to be banned, then...

 

[Elos Anjos]

Bit harsh to say like that.. Maybe he's not that smart as we here, but smart enough to be there at the WT bunch. And make right decisions even in deep oxygen dept, no?

I'm pretty suhre he is not inside the WT bunch because of being smart or not, but because he can perform at god levels.

 

[Froome]

Tim Heemskerk (his coach):

‘He's been away with his family in Mallorca, but now he's starting altitude training in Tignes. It's a new step for him and now it's starting to look like normal training.’

‘He arrived at altitude yesterday (Tuesday, ed.) and initially there's not much training. He just has to adapt to the altitude.

The two-time Tour winner's coach also admits that he is surprised at how much Jonas Vingegaard has improved since the crash on 4 April.

‘We are trying to increase his fitness on the bike, but also to strengthen his shoulder through exercises and get him closer to the optimal weight,’ says Tim Heemskerk.

‘My hope is that he can train with the rest of the team when they come to Tignes after the Dauphiné for the pre-Tour training camp and become a full member of the team. No decision has been made yet. Right now the most important thing is today and tomorrow.’

‘He has prepared himself in the best possible way by doing some climbing and training descents in Mallorca, where he really got back up to speed for the first time. There it was about being somewhere with a good climate and where he could enjoy the time around training with his family. In Tignes, it's more about performance with normal training, massages etc.’ says Tim Heemskerk.

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He will do literally do 1 month in altitude, not just 2 or 3 weeks.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Starting to look like normal training. In other words he was doing Nibali-getting -dropped-by-his-dad level training before

Yup, those fat amateurs caught him and bullied him into photos. But not anymore, w/kg are going up now!

 

[SHAD0W93]

He will do literally do 1 month in altitude, not just 2 or 3 weeks.

At least he’s doing normal training now.

 

[Froome]

Yup, those fat amateurs caught him and bullied him into photos. But not anymore, w/kg are going up now!

Just bluff mate. Visma is creating in laboratory a new software who will make Vingegaard even more stronger.

 

[Froome]

At least he’s doing normal training now.

They always communicate the way they want, it's hard to believe they always tell the truth, but he should he really better to do altitude training camp.

 

[Netserk]

He went from much strong to more stronger. For the Vuelta, he'll be most strongest!

 

[Jack_89]

I'm neither a doctor nor there with him (like everyone else), but observing from the outside I have the impression that the team is forcing things to get him to Florence. Whatever it takes. Let's see, at the Tour he will have to be at 90/100% immediately to overcome the Galibier on the fourth stage.

 

[SHAD0W93]

They always communicate the way they want, it's hard to believe they always tell the truth, but he should he really better to do altitude training camp.

I’m sure they leave our or twist a lot of things, but you said last week he’s been training at a normal training session and now the coach has finally come out to say this week was the start of an almost normal training session.

It’s hard to say if he will be better, it depends on how his lungs heal. It could become a real pain to breathe with altitude and exertion.

 

[Froome]

He went from much strong to more stronger. For the Vuelta, he'll be most strongest!

Did i said wrong? English is not my native language. How is correct "much strong" or "much stronger"?

 

[Froome]

I’m sure they leave our or twist a lot of things, but you said last week he’s been training at a normal training session and now the coach has finally come out to say this week was the start of an almost normal training session.

It’s hard to say if he will be better, it depends on how his lungs heal. It could become a real pain to breathe with altitude and exertion.

Nevertheless being in altitude now, could mean the lungs are good right? Unless they are making in suffer. I don't believe it.

 

[Red Rick]

I'm neither a doctor nor there with him (like everyone else), but observing from the outside I have the impression that the team is forcing things to get him to Florence. Whatever it takes. Let's see, at the Tour he will have to be at 90/100% immediately to overcome the Galibier on the fourth stage.

Nah. He's been taking it easy so far. I think going to Tignes is more of a contingency in that if he improves dramatically and goes to the Tour, they want him to have been to altitude.

Realistically I think they've given up on him winning the Tour and just let him rebuild, but maybe riding the Tour can be part of that rebuild.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

I'm neither a doctor nor there with him (like everyone else), but observing from the outside I have the impression that the team is forcing things to get him to Florence. Whatever it takes. Let's see, at the Tour he will have to be at 90/100% immediately to overcome the Galibier on the fourth stage.

Not just that, stage 1 is no joke, whoever is weak at the beginning will feel it from the start. And if Vingegaard shows up you can be sure this stage will be drilled very hard.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Did i said wrong? English is not my native language. How is correct "much strong" or "much stronger"?

No worries, we are running out of adjectives and adverbs to describe Skeletor anyway!

 

[Samu Cuenca]

He went from much strong to more stronger. For the Vuelta, he'll be most strongest!

And most betterest, too.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

All in all. We'll see.

 

[Peyroteo94]

21 days between first day on the bike and altitude camp.. If it wasn't Visma I would say that seems very forced.

Their season have been a disaster. They need Vingegaard to win the Tour to save the season

 

[Elos Anjos]

From a PR view, having Vingo going to the Tour not 100% and just for utilitarian reaosons - saving JBV season - does not seem a good idea. Winning stages and not being 1st means denting and damaging the aura of machine-like invencibility that they have so hardly constructed in the last two years.

 

[topcat]

Vingo is probably my least favourite rider but I want him to rock up to the tour and crush action man Pog and hear about the nutrition and the cuddles that healed him.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

They're obviously pushing him to be at close to his best as possible for July if they're sending him to altitude now. They can talk all they want about prioritizing the long term and day by day, but the plan is clear to push full gas to get the best possible shape for Le tour, even if he won't be at his 2022/2023 level.

You don't send a rider targeting la Vuelta to altitude on 28th may after 21 days of rebuild training, following a month in hospital

 

[Elos Anjos]

Vingo is probably my least favourite rider but I want him to rock up to the tour and crush action man Pog and hear about the nutrition and the cuddles that healed him.

Vingo is probably my least favourite rider but I think that Pogacar or even Roglic winning the Tour would create a more interesting delayed effect towards the 2025 Tour.

 

[AmRacer]

Vingo is probably my least favourite rider but I think that Pogacar or even Roglic winning the Tour would create a more interesting delayed effect towards the 2025 Tour.

If Remco wins the Tour, it would be epic.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

They're obviously pushing him to be at close to his best as possible for July if they're sending him to altitude now. They can talk all they want about prioritizing the long term and day by day, but the plan is clear to push full gas to get the best possible shape for Le tour, even if he won't be at his 2022/2023 level.

You don't send a rider targeting la Vuelta to altitude on 28th may after 21 days of rebuild training, following a month in hospital

Yet they do.

I hope Vingegaard comes out of this in good health, if going to altitude now is the right step for that, I have no idea.