Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Love in Iberia

[Froome]

The first Tour ITT, since the other one is fairly similar to the one in TA, length wise at least.

The last ITT in nice is even more hilly.

 

[Netserk]

The last ITT in nice is even more hilly.

Other means Itzulia here.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

6.52 w/kg, ammattipyoraily calculations for today. A bit high than the other calculation, but almost the same.

To obtain 6.5 w/kg out of 1777 m/h of VAM a considerable headwind must have been considered. Normally on a 8% climb it's around 6.3-6.4 w/kg. So Vingo's performance was better than the climbing speed suggests.

 

[Red Rick]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1766569554694603036

View: https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/1766569554694603036

Lower altitude, much, much easier day.

 

[tobydawq]

Lower altitude, much, much easier day.

Did the mountain sink since 2009?

 

[DNP-Old]

Did the mountain sink since 2009?

This is a comparison to Joux Plane, not to Sastre.

 

[Red Rick]

Did the mountain sink since 2009?

Sea levels have been rising by about 4.5mm/y


Clearly lower altitude

 

[Netserk]

Did the mountain sink since 2009?

No, but back then it was the end of a 7+ hour, 5500+ vertical meter mountain stage.

 

[Froome]

Lower altitude, much, much easier day.

Probably a easy day compared to 2009, but checking strava, arensman burned 3,912 KJ during 4 hours before pretano, it's a significant fatigue accumulated.

 

[Netserk]

Fish God Vingegaard.

 

[Salvarani]

I hope he won't go farming in Dauphiné, better to keep more in the tank for the rest of the season.

I would be very surprised if he doesnt race Dauphiné.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I would be very surprised if he doesnt race Dauphiné.

I think Netserk meant he shouldn't aim for as many stage wins as possible this time around.

 

[Froome]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1766853941537460420

View: https://twitter.com/faustocoppi60/status/1766853941537460420

 

[Red Rick]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1766853941537460420

View: https://twitter.com/faustocoppi60/status/1766853941537460420

"Cyclist throws objects at disabled people"

~ Newspapers tomorrow

 

[Valv.Piti]

Vingegaard, despite dominating 2024 so far, must be shaking his pants. The charlatan that is San Millan is finally gone. Gonna have to up his level further to stand a chance in July.

 

[Netserk]

He is the new leader of the CQ rolling ranking. How long has Pogi been at the top of it? Maybe since Liège ‘21?

EDIT: Pogi didn't overtake Rogla until after the '21 Tour. I checked how close Evenepoel was after nationals last year, but that wasn't close.

 

[GroupDK]

Individual (12-3)
https://www.procyclingstats.com/rankings/me/individual

2024 victories sofar, Mads Pedersen (6) quite close.
https://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/VictoryRankingRider.asp

2024 Quotient rankings.

CQ Ranking

CQ Ranking is the world's leading cycling ranking and extensive results database. Also known as Cycling Quotient.

cqranking.com

 

[RedheadDane]

Just moving this over from the Evenepoel thread...

Vinge rode away from Bernal, Carapaz. Gaudu, Martinez... on much lesser climbs in Camiño every time he sneezed,

So... it seems he had a cold during Gran Camiño...

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Just moving this over from the Evenepoel thread...



So... it seems he had a cold during Gran Camiño...

You don't have to have a cold in order to sneeze. A sneeze is not a cough. And you can even cough without having a cold.

 

[RedheadDane]

You don't have to have a cold in order to sneeze. A sneeze is not a cough. And you can even cough without having a cold.

Maybe he's allergic.
Coz he sure did a lot of sneezing during that race!

 

[Froome]

Vingegaard impérial sur Tirreno Adriatico, par Frédéric Portoleau

Jonas Vingegaard continue d'impressionner en ce début de saison. Après le O Gran Camino (voir article pécédent), il remporte cette fois une course par étape « world Tour » Tirreno-Adriatico. Après une première victoire en solitaire à Valle Castelana avec le franchissement du Passo di San...

www.chronoswatts.com

Some calculations by frederic portoleau about TA.


" Kämna at the head of the peloton develops the equivalent of 470 standard watts for 9min43sec (3.43 km at 8.86%) . The leaders still remain sheltered in the peloton. Then Jay Hindley attacks, only Juan Ayuso and Jonas Vingegaard can accompany him. 1min30sec later, 6.2 km from the finish, Vingegaard countered and left alone in front. Since Hindley's attack, Vingegaard has just developed the equivalent of 464 standard watts (6.8 w/kg if 60 kg) for 7min38sec (2.95 km at 7.8%) . The Dane continues his effort and continues to widen the gap. After 8.1 km of climbing, he is 35 seconds ahead of Ayuso and Hindley and 54 seconds ahead of a group led most often by Tom Pidcock . He has just completed a block of 12min15sec at 459 standard watts (6.74 w/kg if 60 kg) . The Dane is assured of winning the general classification and the stage then relaxes its effort in the last two kilometers. It is located at 412 standard watts (6.05 w/kg if 60 kg) on this final for 5min20sec."


"Jonas Vingegaard of course achieves the best time of the climb in 27min17sec for the 10.035km at 8.06%. Its average speed is 22.15 km/h. Its estimated power is 6.65 w/kg (if 60 kg) or 448 standard watts."

 

[kn0s]

Vingegaard impérial sur Tirreno Adriatico, par Frédéric Portoleau

Jonas Vingegaard continue d'impressionner en ce début de saison. Après le O Gran Camino (voir article pécédent), il remporte cette fois une course par étape « world Tour » Tirreno-Adriatico. Après une première victoire en solitaire à Valle Castelana avec le franchissement du Passo di San...

www.chronoswatts.com

Some calculations by frederic portoleau about TA.


" Kämna at the head of the peloton develops the equivalent of 470 standard watts for 9min43sec (3.43 km at 8.86%) . The leaders still remain sheltered in the peloton. Then Jay Hindley attacks, only Juan Ayuso and Jonas Vingegaard can accompany him. 1min30sec later, 6.2 km from the finish, Vingegaard countered and left alone in front. Since Hindley's attack, Vingegaard has just developed the equivalent of 464 standard watts (6.8 w/kg if 60 kg) for 7min38sec (2.95 km at 7.8%) . The Dane continues his effort and continues to widen the gap. After 8.1 km of climbing, he is 35 seconds ahead of Ayuso and Hindley and 54 seconds ahead of a group led most often by Tom Pidcock . He has just completed a block of 12min15sec at 459 standard watts (6.74 w/kg if 60 kg) . The Dane is assured of winning the general classification and the stage then relaxes its effort in the last two kilometers. It is located at 412 standard watts (6.05 w/kg if 60 kg) on this final for 5min20sec."


"Jonas Vingegaard of course achieves the best time of the climb in 27min17sec for the 10.035km at 8.06%. Its average speed is 22.15 km/h. Its estimated power is 6.65 w/kg (if 60 kg) or 448 standard watts."

Wonder if he is 58kg already.

 

[Froome]

Wonder if he is 58kg already.

For sure it will be 58 kg on Tour de France, but in the calculations, normally they use a standard weight, to compare the performances of each rider.

 

[Netserk]

Vingegaard impérial sur Tirreno Adriatico, par Frédéric Portoleau

Jonas Vingegaard continue d'impressionner en ce début de saison. Après le O Gran Camino (voir article pécédent), il remporte cette fois une course par étape « world Tour » Tirreno-Adriatico. Après une première victoire en solitaire à Valle Castelana avec le franchissement du Passo di San...

www.chronoswatts.com

Some calculations by frederic portoleau about TA.


" Kämna at the head of the peloton develops the equivalent of 470 standard watts for 9min43sec (3.43 km at 8.86%) . The leaders still remain sheltered in the peloton. Then Jay Hindley attacks, only Juan Ayuso and Jonas Vingegaard can accompany him. 1min30sec later, 6.2 km from the finish, Vingegaard countered and left alone in front. Since Hindley's attack, Vingegaard has just developed the equivalent of 464 standard watts (6.8 w/kg if 60 kg) for 7min38sec (2.95 km at 7.8%) . The Dane continues his effort and continues to widen the gap. After 8.1 km of climbing, he is 35 seconds ahead of Ayuso and Hindley and 54 seconds ahead of a group led most often by Tom Pidcock . He has just completed a block of 12min15sec at 459 standard watts (6.74 w/kg if 60 kg) . The Dane is assured of winning the general classification and the stage then relaxes its effort in the last two kilometers. It is located at 412 standard watts (6.05 w/kg if 60 kg) on this final for 5min20sec."


"Jonas Vingegaard of course achieves the best time of the climb in 27min17sec for the 10.035km at 8.06%. Its average speed is 22.15 km/h. Its estimated power is 6.65 w/kg (if 60 kg) or 448 standard watts."

Hmm, I'm not sure how early he eased up. It certainly wasn't as clear as on Croix de Fer.

 

[Froome]

Hmm, I'm not sure how early he eased up. It certainly wasn't as clear as on Croix de Fer.

I also think he was on the limit in the last 2 km, just like on tourmalet.