Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Mountain Sprinter

[Tim Cahill]

Well.

***.

 

[Salvarani]

Tried to tell yall. This was obvious.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

So Vingo is f**king back! So it was his numbers that convinced JV to take him, as I suspected. Today he was even stronger than I expected him to be though.

 

[Gigs_98]

I understand absolutely nothing.

That said, it's still just a 5 minute effort in the heat, this should probably come back faster than the really long hard efforst.

I gotta admit, I do feel a little urge to make a compilation of all posts where you explained why Vingegaard would be nowhere this July and why all the talk of him riding the tour was just a sham.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

OK so he can safely go home for his housing project now. Tour is over.
He was right that he was just lucky being picked.

 

[Salvarani]

I gotta admit, I do feel a little urge to make a compilation of all posts where you explained why Vingegaard would be nowhere this July and why all the talk of him riding the tour was just a sham.

Make a compilation of mine

 

[Red Rick]

I gotta admit, I do feel a little urge to make a compilation of all posts where you explained why Vingegaard would be nowhere this July and why all the talk of him riding the tour was just a sham.

Are we gonna expect what just happened was reasonable expectations? Hinault was even saying the other day "if Vingegaard is close to winning I don't understand anything about cycling anymore"

 

[Peyroteo94]

He is going to win 7 Tours, isn't he?

 

[Salvarani]

Are we gonna expect what just happened was reasonable expectations? Hinault was even saying the other day "if Vingegaard is close to winning I don't understand anything about cycling anymore"

Well, it was the correct one.

 

[Gigs_98]

Are we gonna expect what just happened was reasonable expectations? Hinault was even saying the other day "if Vingegaard is close to winning I don't understand anything about cycling anymore"

I mean this was certainly better than I expected. But you gotta admit that you were overly pessimistic. You were still calling everything Visma said a bluff even when their communication regarding Vingegaard hecame more and more positive.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Remember when everyone voted for Pogacar to win the Tour? There was only one man who voted on Vingegaard... El Pistolero is a wise man

 

[Red Rick]

I mean this was certainly better than I expected. But you gotta admit that you were overly pessimistic. You were still calling everything Visma said a bluff even when their communication regarding Vingegaard hecame more and more positive.

I stand by what I said based on the information available. I wonder if I misevaluated the quality of training he was doing early on in his recovery before he went to Tignes.

Also, Benoot was literally saying none of them would have bet on Vingegaard finishing on the podium, and Zeeman was super uncertain about Vingegaards form before stage 1. I really don't think Vingegaard was doing some great numbers 2 weeks ago in training.

 

[proffate]

I've seen this trope before

 

[Netserk]

I gotta admit, I do feel a little urge to make a compilation of all posts where you explained why Vingegaard would be nowhere this July and why all the talk of him riding the tour was just a sham.

Please do. While we're all taking turns being spectacularly wrong, it's still funny.

 

[Valv.Piti]

I stand by what I said based on the information available. I wonder if I misevaluated the quality of training he was doing early on in his recovery before he went to Tignes.

Also, Benoot was literally saying none of them would have bet on Vingegaard finishing on the podium, and Zeeman was super uncertain about Vingegaards form before stage 1. I really don't think Vingegaard was doing some great numbers 2 weeks ago in training.

Looks to me that Vingegaard is just an insane responder to training a bit like Pog. These guys casually demolish riders in their first race of the season without being close to their peaks.

Another way of saying it would ofc just be they are more talented than the rest.

 

[Salvarani]

Got laughed at but this was an easy prediction.

 

[Brullnux]

I stand by what I said based on the information available. I wonder if I misevaluated the quality of training he was doing early on in his recovery before he went to Tignes.

Also, Benoot was literally saying none of them would have bet on Vingegaard finishing on the podium, and Zeeman was super uncertain about Vingegaards form before stage 1. I really don't think Vingegaard was doing some great numbers 2 weeks ago in training.

I think they were sandbagging, really. I don't think Vingo would have gone if they didn't think that he had a good chance of winning. The moment he was confirmed on the start line, we should have expected something like this.

Maybe, though, he'll still falter on the Galibier. We will see.

 

[Netserk]

Rewatching it, the team also made a big difference today. UAE were unable to drill the first ascent while Vingegaard started both ascents in perfect position. Yates only got to the front ~halfway up the second ascent and Pogi's attack was quite late, after the steepest part.

 

[Froome]

Remember when everyone voted for Pogacar to win the Tour? There was only one man who voted on Vingegaard... El Pistolero is a wise man

El pistolero is always changing his opinion.

 

[Froome]

I stand by what I said based on the information available. I wonder if I misevaluated the quality of training he was doing early on in his recovery before he went to Tignes.

Also, Benoot was literally saying none of them would have bet on Vingegaard finishing on the podium, and Zeeman was super uncertain about Vingegaards form before stage 1. I really don't think Vingegaard was doing some great numbers 2 weeks ago in training.

They have a strategy of communication, they would naturally hide the true.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I think Visma is unsure of Vingegaard's shape COMPARED to Pogacar and for that reason they were hiding his shape but they know Vingegaard can win the Tour with one leg if Pogacar wasn't racing.

 

[proffate]

Looks to me that Vingegaard is just an insane responder to training a bit like Pog. These guys casually demolish riders in their first race of the season without being close to their peaks.

Another way of saying it would ofc just be they are more talented than the rest.

Actually based on today Ving seems to be a responder to NOT training.

 

[Mlarsen]

Something is going on or he faked his injuries a little bit. I can't find other explanation

id. . t..you a . .

 

[Valv.Piti]

Rewatching it, the team also made a big difference today. UAE were unable to drill the first ascent while Vingegaard started both ascents in perfect position. Yates only got to the front ~halfway up the second ascent and Pogi's attack was quite late, after the steepest part.

Lemmen is proving to be very good on these kinda stages. Tratnik and Benoot also huge. Just a very solid team that lacks high mountain climbing now

 

[Medvind]

Vinge couldn't have had a better start to the tour. Same time as Pog after first two stages, did anyone believe that?

Sure, I still want to see how he rides on stage 4 before I'm confident he can challenge Pog.

But sure looks good so far. And the team seems more dialed in to ride for Vinge than UAE for Pog, at least so far.