Josh Tarling Discussion Thread

[ManicJack]

Went over after riders crashed in front of him in Roubaix and broke his knee,

He broke his knee?

 

[Brullnux]

He's way too hard on himself. Speaking of letting himself and the team down, failing... You're 20 years old, you don't have to be the WC ITT yet. More than enough time to develop and become better.

To me it seems as though the Olympics took it out of him mentally a bit, he was extremely disappointed after and this interview after the WC shows really intense pressure and maybe not that much enjoyment in what he's doing. I think the off-season will be important for him to relax a bit and re-calibrate. He's clearly immensely talented, I don't think there's enough in it to suggest he's regressing. Just a bad couple of months after the first big setback of his career – happens!

 

[Tim Cahill]

He broke his knee?

Yes, had a bit off after Roubaix

‘The guy has big ambitions’ - Josh Tarling all in for gold at the Paris Olympics and reveals future GC goals

Ineos Grenadiers rider tells Cyclingnews about Olympic preparations, recovery from a broken bone in his knee and hopes to become a Grand Tour contender

www.cyclingnews.com

Don't think the recovery was super bad but knee hurts like a b*tch apparently

 

[JRanton]

I thought he was climbing quite well in Paris-Nice but the bergs in Belgium really don’t suit him at all.

 

[KZD]

First GT stage win, well done.

 

[jmdirt]

This kid can TT like a beast!

 

[JRanton]

He’ll be disappointed not to win that. He beat Hoole by 1:22 as a 19 year old at the Europeans over a similar distance. Any explanation why he dropped off so much after smashing the first split today?

 

[Monsi]

He’ll be disappointed not to win that. He beat Hoole by 1:22 as a 19 year old at the Europeans over a similar distance. Any explanation why he dropped off so much after smashing the first split today?

Probably went out too hard and couldn't sustain the pace.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

He’ll be disappointed not to win that. He beat Hoole by 1:22 as a 19 year old at the Europeans over a similar distance. Any explanation why he dropped off so much after smashing the first split today?

It seemed like Hoole was just very fast at the second split. Was there any footage of him? I wouldn't be surprised if he had a somewhat less vigilant moto ahead of him. Two years ago Evenepoel caught Hoole in a 19km TT in the Giro. He isn't exactly a world beater, so it's peculiar at least.

 

[Cycling111]

He’ll be disappointed not to win that. He beat Hoole by 1:22 as a 19 year old at the Europeans over a similar distance. Any explanation why he dropped off so much after smashing the first split today?

It wasn't Tarling's best performance. But Hoole's performance was far superior to his other results.

Hoole had only won one ITT, beating Van Dijke in the national championship by 1 second.
LIDL's level in this Giro is very high.

 

[search]

Hoole did a good ITT, but I'd think gaps around (or less than) a minute to guys like Azparren, Frigo, Hepburn, Barancini etc aren't anything too special. He didn't overperform much, if at all.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

yea, nothing to write home about today. One to forget.

 

[Jan the Man]

Hoole and Hayter took time on a lot of those going around same time as Tarling between T1 and T2 - instinct says wind changed a little to be less favourable but ultimately Hoole put in a strong ride with a good average over that distance.

Far from his best performance but not that bad either, though I thought he would be strong favourite on this parcours.

 

[Oldman]

To me it seems as though the Olympics took it out of him mentally a bit, he was extremely disappointed after and this interview after the WC shows really intense pressure and maybe not that much enjoyment in what he's doing. I think the off-season will be important for him to relax a bit and re-calibrate. He's clearly immensely talented, I don't think there's enough in it to suggest he's regressing. Just a bad couple of months after the first big setback of his career – happens!

I was making a similar comparison on the Remco forum. The young guys that come in hot are subjected to almost ridiculous and immediate fan pressure. Their teams sprint ahead to market them and development takes a back seat.
He could be as good as Wout at his peak but that didn't happen overnight. Wout had years of 'cross success to hone his skills and manage his image.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

We do need an update on the state of affairs after the crash. Anybody with info?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

We do need an update on the state of affairs after the crash. Anybody with info?

Now there is some:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1927658620881101106

View: https://x.com/INEOSGrenadiers/status/1927658620881101106

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

That fall had fairly catastrophic consequences:

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Worthy of a couple more laughs.

 

[JRanton]

About time he had his own thread.

He went the wrong way at a roundabout today and still beat the world champion in a 45km ITT in his first year as a pro at just 19 years old.

If you told me two years later he wouldn’t even be competitive with Remco I wouldn’t have believed you. People will mention his injury but he was already beaten by Dan Hoole at the Giro. Remco is on another planet now and has gone to another level.

 

[SafeBet]

He has stalled in his development as a TTer and overall but let's give him some time. This was a tough season with illness and a terrible crash. I wasn't expecting him to be competetive here.

 

[Cycling111]

If you told me two years later he wouldn’t even be competitive with Remco I wouldn’t have believed you. People will mention his injury but he was already beaten by Dan Hoole at the Giro. Remco is on another planet now and has gone to another level.

Well, Remco didn't win in Australia and he was very strong because he won the RR and the Vuelta.

It's been a difficult year for Tarling, but he's very young.

For me, Ganna is stagnant, but Tarling is very young, and it's a discipline in which they improve with years.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Might also be that the Ineos tt-setup is now a lot worse compared to the top dogs, see for example Hayter's TT-results at Quickstep this year.

 

[yaco]

This is tarling's fourth or fifth race day since May. You can hardly expect a stellar performance.

 

[Jan the Man]

Won a stage in the grio broke his back -very harsh to say he’s regressed.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Well, Remco didn't win in Australia and he was very strong because he won the RR and the Vuelta.

Evenepoel didn't win in Australia because he came straight from winning the Vuelta and did not have enough time to recon the course. Unlike Foss who had been there for nearly two weeks and Küng who had been there for a week. Evenepoel did not lose in Wollongong because of his numbers (he even claimed he rode his best TT by watts there up to that moment in his career), he didn't win because he lost too much time in the corners of the technical sections of the course.