Juan Ayuso discussion thread

[Red Rick]

Absolutely no legs this Vuelta, winning 2 stages in this condition is a show of pure grinta and mental fortitude.

 

[Offline]

As much as the UAE wants to win stages, Ayuso's attitude today is once again lamentable. Jay Vine and Soler have sacrificed themselves for him. He can't even make it to the final climb to help out on the queen stage. They shouldn't give more teammates to help him on the stages.

He so gross! Can't stand him

 

[SafeBet]

Stage hunters can't be at their best every day. That's why they're stage hunting to begin with.

 

[Cycling111]

Stage hunters can't be at their best every day. That's why they're stage hunting to begin with.

Jay Vine has won two stages and is helping. There's another solution: not going for a stage the day before Angliru.

 

[Ripper]

Jay Vine has won two stages and is helping. There's another solution: not going for a stage the day before Angliru.

Indeed. The fact is, this was ridiculously predictable.

Good thing for UAE that their team is so deep. But it really is the perfect marriage of a young/seemingly immature individual rider, and a mostly non-team approach of individual riders.

It will be interesting to see what next year holds

 

[Peyroteo94]

The amount of selfish behaviours is so big that I don't even know why some here think this hate about him is only because he did a half pull on Galibier.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Give the guy a break, he was fighting well until Cordal while some predicted theatrics on Mozqueta.

 

[Cycling111]

If he had helped Almeida the day Vingegaard won the stage, he'd be seconds closer now.

But some say it wasn't that important to help that day. When your leader is inferior, it's very important the team help in the most difficult stages for him to mitigate his defects.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Look at the courage, the grinta of Ayuso climbing the Angliru

It's like watching Andrew Hampsten going up the Gavia in the snow

https://twitter.com/x/status/1964021143167283445

 

[yaco]

As much as the UAE wants to win stages, Ayuso's attitude today is once again lamentable. Jay Vine and Soler have sacrificed themselves for him. He can't even make it to the final climb to help out on the queen stage. They shouldn't give more teammates to help him on the stages.

What has Soler done to help Almeida? All, I've seen is one 100 metre lead out on a finish in the first week.

 

[Cycling111]

What has Soler done to help Almeida? All, I've seen is one 100 metre lead out on a finish in the first week.

I was referring to the fact that Jay Vine and Soler sacrificed themselves for Ayuso. He had two teammates working for him to win two stages.

 

[YavorD]

Look at the courage, the grinta of Ayuso climbing the Angliru

It's like watching Andrew Hampsten going up the Gavia in the snow

https://twitter.com/x/status/1964021143167283445

I'm sure he put himself through all this suffer only to be able to help his amigo, Almeida tomorrow. And you can't convince me otherwise.

 

[ogotemmeli]

Who can forget the close battle between Team Soler and Team Vine last year?

I cannot remember exactly what stage it was in last year's Vuelta, but it was certainly towards the end of the third week.
In short, Soler was leading the points for the mountains. Soler and Vine had a talk. Vine told Soler he had unfinished business: he wanted to win the mountain jersey as the previous year he had crashed out when wearing it.
Soler agreed.
The next day it was a mountain stage and Soler and Vine were in the breakaway. Soler rode for Vine. At no point did Soler race against Vine for any points. Vine won the stage and the mountains.
Vine explained all in his stage winners interview. He also stated, "Soler is the best team rider."

 

[Netserk]

I cannot remember exactly what stage it was in last year's Vuelta, but it was certainly towards the end of the third week.
In short, Soler was leading the points for the mountains. Soler and Vine had a talk. Vine told Soler he had unfinished business: he wanted to win the mountain jersey as the previous year he had crashed out when wearing it.
Soler agreed.
The next day it was a mountain stage and Soler and Vine were in the breakaway. Soler rode for Vine. At no point did Soler race against Vine for any points. Vine won the stage and the mountains.
Vine explained all in his stage winners interview. He also stated, "Soler is the best team rider."

And yet Soler took the jersey from Vine on stage 18 and only lost it on stage 20 because there weren't more GC riders that would sprint for bonus seconds on the penultimate climb.

 

[ashhutch1997]

It's ashame Ayuso isn't a little bit older, as he would've slotted into that 2019 TDF Movistar team. Could you have imagined the scenes on that Netlfix documentary, would've been beautiful.

 

[Cookster15]

Almeida continues to show Ayuso what is possible.

 

[HashRouge]

The way Pog wrote messages to Del Toro telling him he would win the Giro when Ayuso was still the team's official leader is not a small sign of that? Or Ayuso never being put in the same races? And when he does like in Canada last year, he pulls for one kilometer on a flat road and then calls it a day because he thinks it looked like he put in an effort for the team.

What message did Pogacar send to del Toro? I tried to Google but all I found was an interview where del Toro said Pogacar told him he should go for the Strade stage if he was in a position to win it. As for the reason Pog and Ayuso don't race together that often - surely that's because they both generally go to races as leader, and there is no point sending both to the same race? Pogacar doesn't race that much with Almeida either, outside the Tour.

 

[Peyroteo94]

What message did Pogacar send to del Toro? I tried to Google but all I found was an interview where del Toro said Pogacar told him he should go for the Strade stage if he was in a position to win it. As for the reason Pog and Ayuso don't race together that often - surely that's because they both generally go to races as leader, and there is no point sending both to the same race? Pogacar doesn't race that much with Almeida either, outside the Tour.

It was a story on Instagram where Pogacar supported Del Toro to keep the jersey until the end. This was after his stage win or his incredible ride in the gravel stage.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Saving himself today for Almeida.

 

[Escarabajo]

Ayuso should take Soler to Trek!

 

[Escarabajo]

Look at the courage, the grinta of Ayuso climbing the Angliru

It's like watching Andrew Hampsten going up the Gavia in the snow

https://twitter.com/x/status/1964021143167283445

I will post it on the Angliru thread!!!

 

[CyclistAbi]

Seems he is loved in real world and bullied on the internet? Same people?

 

[HashRouge]

It was a story on Instagram where Pogacar supported Del Toro to keep the jersey until the end. This was after his stage win or his incredible ride in the gravel stage.

The only one I ever saw was the "Looking at the future, enjoy the pink jersey one". Is this what people are talking about? Because some people are making a huge deal out of whatever this post was.

 

[Berniece]

The only one I ever saw was the "Looking at the future, enjoy the pink jersey one". Is this what people are talking about? Because some people are making a huge deal out of whatever this post was.

It was very obvious what he was doing at the time, and still is. He was saying UAE should go for Del Toro as a leader.

 

[Valv.Piti]

It was very obvious what he was doing at the time, and still is. He was saying UAE should go for Del Toro as a leader.

And he was right. Del Toro is obviously just flat out the better, more versatile and more talented rider. Good evalution once again by our lord and savior, Teddy Pokercar.