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Okay Ayuso ruined all my good will for him by talking about going viral before doing something.
- Apr 3, 2009
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TBF it did go viral.
I'm with you on the "before doing something" comment WRT Ayuso generally. One example (there are many) is Bruyneel referring to him as a "Champion", which surprises me. He's not won anything significant enough (yet) to warrant that.
Gotta keep myself from letting a rider's fans, team managers, or media from influencing my opinion of said rider...really isn't easy...
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I don't know why Bruyneel has consistently sided with the way Ayuso is managed. He knows how critical a role Juan could play right now in a win for Del ToroTBF it did go viral.
I'm with you on the "before doing something" comment WRT Ayuso generally. One example (there are many) is Bruyneel referring to him as a "Champion", which surprises me. He's not won anything significant enough (yet) to warrant that.
Gotta keep myself from letting a rider's fans, team managers, or media from influencing my opinion of said rider...really isn't easy...
I think that's a revisionism of what really happened.
As soon as the final climb started (PdB, 15,8km to go), Visma sent Jorgenson pacing upfront. It was a crazy pace and blew up what was left of the peloton.
At 12km to go Almeida and Ciccone dropped (Ciccone is no slouch).
Who's left at that point: Jorgenson, Vingegaard, Pog, Yates, Remco, Landa, Carlos Rodriguez and Buitrago.
At 11km to go, Buitrago and Rodriguez drop.
At 10,5km Jorgenson starts the lead out for Vingegaard's attack. Vinge attacks and only Pog reacts. Everybody else is dropped.
At 5,5km to go Pog attacks and goes solo for the win.
At the end of the day, Jorgenson's pace was simply too much for everyone other than the 2 mutants and Remco. I don't believe anybody else (including Almeida, Yates or Landa) could have done anything more than they did.
ps: according to Watts2Win, this climb was the career personal best climb for Pog, Vingegaard, Remco, Carlos Rodriguez and Buitrago.
And 2nd best for Landa, 3rd for Yates and 5th for Almeida.
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That was a crazy crazy hard pace.
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Nah. I like him now because he failed to win his big objective. Not only that, but some really messed up stuff happened to him along the way, with a nasty knee injury and then a malevolent bee with harmful intent turning him into One Eye-uso and sending him towards a DNF.
For those reasons alone, he has my good will. I always cheer for the guys who have it rough out there.
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He wanted Ayuso to stay and take a few pulls for Del Toro to get other peoples good will. Just like Broe suggested.
So they wanted him to stay despite that injury. Just like Brunyel in the past also (among with Horner) said Roglic should've stayed in the tour 2023 as a domestique for Jonas.
He's quite consistent.
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^ this is so very true. To be clear: you see this in all the threads, Be it Pog, Rog, Vingo or Remco.
And frankly, it's exhausting to read.
Used to be a time when you were a fan of someone, it was also possible to accept criticism from others. But whatever, I already feel like the old man yelling at clouds.
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I'm curious that this wasn't mentioned yet, but I'm surprised nobody could yet make a bridge between Juan Ayusos bad bike handling and how this leads to getting a bee inside your helmet and then be stung. I'm sure it just can't be bad luck!
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They went a bit hard on Ayuso, everything going on at this race in regards to his team, but on the plus side all of them now look a bit like jackasses. So Ayuso doesn't even have to switch teams, for Movistar.
Tour?
Tour?
Wow, that’s not much of season since didn’t even “race” the final week of this Giro.
There was an article yesterday in spain saying the he will probably miss the national championship and will be back in San Sebastian with the Worlds as his target for the rest of year.
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Ayuso told to a Spanish media that he probably won't compete in the national championships because he needs to recover from the Giro.
Those championships are at the end of June. If he's in doubt about competing at the end of June, he couldn't go to Slovenia or Switzerland, which they're also talking about.
Those championships are at the end of June. If he's in doubt about competing at the end of June, he couldn't go to Slovenia or Switzerland, which they're also talking about.
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Disastrous season for Ayuso, it looks like. I know he's young, but this feels like a mistake for the team unless he is truly cancerous behind the scenes.
I haven't seen a more Guangxi-bound man since Sam Bennett in the old Quickstep days!
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